https://old.reddit.com/r/dragonage/comments/1gpjb0s/no_spoilers_early_taash_concept_art_vs_later/
Comments and posts like these are breaking through even the uber soy woke mindvirus strags of /r/dragonage
https://old.reddit.com/r/dragonage/comments/1gphvd7/dav_spoilers_all_the_longer_i_played_the_more_i/
negative posts have started outnumbering positive posts on front page last 3 days
One guy shits on the game after full playthrough 
https://old.reddit.com/r/dragonage/comments/1gp2i2b/dav_act_3_spoilers_alright_i_just_completed_the/
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Does anyone really think this is good writing? I am flabbergasted honestly. I posted a rant a couple days ago complaining about some things but I have come back with more. After 60 hours of playing and doing a 100%. I'm just disappointed.
1. I just don't understand what this game is supposed to be, a decade for what? To find out it's some spoky creepy illuminati working in shadows to destroy the world/evanuris? I have no idea. As soon as I saw the epilogue with Loghain, it solidified my experience with this game. Bioware can't write for shit anymore. Might be my personal opinion but why does there always need to be a greater evil, why is it evil at all? Solas was a great example, I didn't think he was evil in Inquisition, just someone faced with impossible odds and terrible choices. Someone driven by guilt. I could understand that.
2. And that last bit of the game took one of the most complex and beautifully written villains, and turned him into a puppet?? Loghain no longer has any deeper motivations for his betrayal, fueled by trauma and loss. Nah. He had no say. Frick that.
3. And who was writing the emotional dialogue here, how am I supposed to take anyone seriously when most of the companions reactions to something traumatic is idk, shit, that's tough, oof... What the heck man....
4. Speaking of dialogue why the frick am I so supportive of everyone, I can't even call out someone for being stupid, like Lucanis for sparing Ilario??? Dude, this man is responsible for most of the destruction in your city???
5. While I'm talking about companions, I felt like I was surrounded by children all the darn time. What is up with all the darn picnics, Darvin had like 4 and Emmerich and Harding were having an "argument" (ooh drama) about how many books they were gonna bring on their little outing... There are moments when these characters shine bright with their stories and pain, and then, you show me they're actually just very dumb and I can't call it out.
6. It all seems like it was supposed to be a dnd game, because I'm constantly reminded by that DnD movie with a Chris. Which was fun but it ain't Dragon Age. In an effort to create something new, they made the established lore and factions feel like caricatures.
7. And why are there so many factions? Because it just drags the game down. There's no reason for them to be there. Mourn Watchers and Lords of Fortune, what the heck was the point of them here, the game could have been fine without them. And apparently everyone has beef with the gods and we arrive just in time to clean up the mess. But somehow in certain situations like the griffins being kidnapped at the very beginning of the game don't get to be blighted until the very end and again, we came just at the right time! Lucky!
8. Last time I also mentioned why are some factions allied with the gods. Like Venatori, and everyone says well they know he's Lusacan. And yeah that'd be fine, if most of them still didn't call him Elgar'nan! And he's right there with his pointy ears, and they're all like frick yeah Tevinter supremacy brah!! I'd think most of them would be facing an existential crisis, their gods are not dragons but filthy knife ears, how can this be?! The rest would be in denial. All in all, this is stupid.
There's just so much wrong with this game and so little that's right. Dragon Age got Game of Thrones'd, because this is exactly like season 8. Just shit on everything and be done with it.
At least I gotta congratulate them for releasing a full game, without any EA bullshit. But still 10 years of a wait, and I would be glad it's finally over... BUT APPARENTLY NOT!!
So yeah, goodbye Dragon Age, David Gaider was carrying you hard.
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also they cry because the concept art was by order of magnitude better than the clearly deliberate fuglification of the soys
"you think it's bad now, just wait until you see the artbook and what we could have gotten but they decided to scrap. It's so stupid how when they got permission to go back to making a single player game they didn't pick up where they left off and decided to instead rework the entire story/style and make something shallow. The past version of the game is what everyone expected this game to be, even our worldstate mattered.
https://books.google.com/books/about/The_Art_of_Dragon_Age_The_Veilguard_Delu.html?id=SyQaEQAAQBAJ"
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I would love to have people in bioware to explain what they were thinking.
When they killed orginal concept. When they pivoted to multiplayer dragon age. And what the frick they were doing last 3 years if this is outcome.
They belived to this game so much they didnt even coombait. Even bg3 coombaits.
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The head writer looks like the kind of guy who could get baited into a Twitter screed defending their dogshit, and if not him there are 20 other character sheet writers I'd gamble we'll get at least one unprofessional spaz out with some details.
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If I remember correctly the initial plan for DA4 was for it to be smaller scale direct continuation of Inquisition after The Trespasser DLC where you play as the Inquisitor again and it was planned to be released back in like 2018 but then it was abandoned because EA wanted a larger scale live service game and then they pulled a bunch of the devs to work on Anthem so it was basically delayed for two years of development time.
My guess is that most of the core development already happened before it was clear it would be even more of a flop as a live service game and they pivoted hard to rewrite a bunch of the stuff in the past 12-18 months.
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Yes and no. That was idea and there is whole art section of what was plan.
EA didnt kill it. Bioware killed it in favour of Anthem. Devlopment of that started in 2012. And it was total shitshow. Moment inqusition came out. They started to shift resources to Anthem. Managment was total shitshow and game still mess in 2017. Thats when bioware went all in on it. Killing dragonage 4.
EA did end up killing multiplayer versio becouse Anthem was such shitshow.
But still. There was preproduction and something happening in 2014-2017. Full production 2019-2021 and full production of this game 2021-2024
Its remarkable how this game and cyberpunk follow excarly same path.
Orginal vision and pre production is killed in favor of another game. Production restarts but only to pivot to another direction soon after. Ultimately end product pays the price.
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Ahem.
Hope this helps!
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