https://old.reddit.com/r/dragonage/comments/1gpjb0s/no_spoilers_early_taash_concept_art_vs_later/
Comments and posts like these are breaking through even the uber soy woke mindvirus strags of /r/dragonage
https://old.reddit.com/r/dragonage/comments/1gphvd7/dav_spoilers_all_the_longer_i_played_the_more_i/
negative posts have started outnumbering positive posts on front page last 3 days
One guy shits on the game after full playthrough 
https://old.reddit.com/r/dragonage/comments/1gp2i2b/dav_act_3_spoilers_alright_i_just_completed_the/
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Does anyone really think this is good writing? I am flabbergasted honestly. I posted a rant a couple days ago complaining about some things but I have come back with more. After 60 hours of playing and doing a 100%. I'm just disappointed.
1. I just don't understand what this game is supposed to be, a decade for what? To find out it's some spoky creepy illuminati working in shadows to destroy the world/evanuris? I have no idea. As soon as I saw the epilogue with Loghain, it solidified my experience with this game. Bioware can't write for shit anymore. Might be my personal opinion but why does there always need to be a greater evil, why is it evil at all? Solas was a great example, I didn't think he was evil in Inquisition, just someone faced with impossible odds and terrible choices. Someone driven by guilt. I could understand that.
2. And that last bit of the game took one of the most complex and beautifully written villains, and turned him into a puppet?? Loghain no longer has any deeper motivations for his betrayal, fueled by trauma and loss. Nah. He had no say. Frick that.
3. And who was writing the emotional dialogue here, how am I supposed to take anyone seriously when most of the companions reactions to something traumatic is idk, shit, that's tough, oof... What the heck man....
4. Speaking of dialogue why the frick am I so supportive of everyone, I can't even call out someone for being stupid, like Lucanis for sparing Ilario??? Dude, this man is responsible for most of the destruction in your city???
5. While I'm talking about companions, I felt like I was surrounded by children all the darn time. What is up with all the darn picnics, Darvin had like 4 and Emmerich and Harding were having an "argument" (ooh drama) about how many books they were gonna bring on their little outing... There are moments when these characters shine bright with their stories and pain, and then, you show me they're actually just very dumb and I can't call it out.
6. It all seems like it was supposed to be a dnd game, because I'm constantly reminded by that DnD movie with a Chris. Which was fun but it ain't Dragon Age. In an effort to create something new, they made the established lore and factions feel like caricatures.
7. And why are there so many factions? Because it just drags the game down. There's no reason for them to be there. Mourn Watchers and Lords of Fortune, what the heck was the point of them here, the game could have been fine without them. And apparently everyone has beef with the gods and we arrive just in time to clean up the mess. But somehow in certain situations like the griffins being kidnapped at the very beginning of the game don't get to be blighted until the very end and again, we came just at the right time! Lucky!
8. Last time I also mentioned why are some factions allied with the gods. Like Venatori, and everyone says well they know he's Lusacan. And yeah that'd be fine, if most of them still didn't call him Elgar'nan! And he's right there with his pointy ears, and they're all like frick yeah Tevinter supremacy brah!! I'd think most of them would be facing an existential crisis, their gods are not dragons but filthy knife ears, how can this be?! The rest would be in denial. All in all, this is stupid.
There's just so much wrong with this game and so little that's right. Dragon Age got Game of Thrones'd, because this is exactly like season 8. Just shit on everything and be done with it.
At least I gotta congratulate them for releasing a full game, without any EA bullshit. But still 10 years of a wait, and I would be glad it's finally over... BUT APPARENTLY NOT!!
So yeah, goodbye Dragon Age, David Gaider was carrying you hard.
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also they cry because the concept art was by order of magnitude better than the clearly deliberate fuglification of the soys
"you think it's bad now, just wait until you see the artbook and what we could have gotten but they decided to scrap. It's so stupid how when they got permission to go back to making a single player game they didn't pick up where they left off and decided to instead rework the entire story/style and make something shallow. The past version of the game is what everyone expected this game to be, even our worldstate mattered.
https://books.google.com/books/about/The_Art_of_Dragon_Age_The_Veilguard_Delu.html?id=SyQaEQAAQBAJ"
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LMAO wtf
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Most of these are black foids. Whats up with western devs and hate for black foids?
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!chuds
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What?!
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In fairness to the Dishonored everyone is ugly in those games.
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hey now Hellblade Senua isn't that bad
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They gave the character that stance weird children who watch anime do when they want to be threatening. Largest image on the right. It's not just me, right?
Edit: how are there zero examples of this online?
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They ever crunch the numbers on this game? Even though it's not a collosal failure, I'm still hoping it's enough to put bioware out of business.
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I've played and thoroughly enjoyed every DA game but I'm not going near this garbage.
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Did you also fall in love with Alistair?
Woulda made him my husband...
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Morrigan is my forever waifu.
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You thoroughly enjoyed doing fetch quests in the vast nothingness of Inquisition ?
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simulator where you go on picknics and talk to your party companions about what gender they are and how they feel about it.
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That's not even sarcasm. It's heartbreaking.
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Not yet. Some guy says UK sales are comparable to some weebshit game
https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2024/11/dragon-age-the-veilguard-sales-keep-pace-with-dragons-dogma-2-final-fantasy-7-rebirth-in-uk
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Keeping pace with a game that came out over half a year ago
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Probably still havent made back what they spend on various forms of this game.
But i doubt this puts bioware off the pasture. They are in canada. They are getting tax credit for being so diverse. This probably extend to EA buisness some way. Bioware might be there to lower their taxes. Thats why they can have nothing but massive failures for 10 years and still have lights on.
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Unless the taxes are negative, they still have to make money
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Probably burned all the money they made off Anthem on this.
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Jason Schreier made a tweet bragging about how the game was successful when it first came out to "own the Chuds" but he since deleted it which means he almost certainly has an inside source telling him otherwise.
For an AAA game of this size, they probably spent 100+ million on development alone and sales figures don't look like they'll be recuperating that.
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10 years of development and at least one if not two full stops and restarts. This game cost more than 100 million. I'd put it between 150 and 200, especially when you add marketing to it.
All that and i'm going to guess that sales across all platforms are maybe a million or 1.5 million tops. That sounds like a good number but it isn't. Those are good numbers for smaller indie titles. This is not an indie, it's a hugely expensive triple A major release in a long standing franchise. This game is cooked beyond belief.
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There are no sales figures yet
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They probably just broke even
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Are you still going to make your two hour essay about everything that ruined the lore?
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no, cuz nobody's gonna read it
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!chuds Kaamrev should have become a substack essayposting chuddy instead of a gay cat forumposter
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Just type shit up in a fricking substack and post it here
@kaamrev why not. You can copy and past the fricking whole article and the fricking link.
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You should essaypost about something you know about instead of complaining.
At least post your goddarn cat ffs.
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!g*mers !anime !effortposters
@Nightcrawler I would really appreciate if Kaamrev did an effortpost about the history and current status of the vidya and anime industry and fandom in South Africa, and maybe in Sub-Saharan Africa in general! (they are already popular in North Africa, and it inevitably overlaps with the g*mers and weebcels in the rest of the Arab World), I do not care about Dragon Age in specific, but I would really want to know more about the African g*mers and weebshitters! 
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The history of gaming in different countries in the 1980s-2000s can be wildly different and the effects are still felt today. Like in Russia in the 1990s-2000s (this applies to parts of Eastern Europe as well) they were buying used computers a few years out of date, so they didn't get into the FPS craze of the time. Instead they played RPGs like Fallout, Baldur's Gate, etc. and actually developed their intellect instead of their trigger finger.
You see two results today: they're making highbrow AA games like Encased in the same style but with interesting new content. And RPG Codex is full of insane Slavs who have never met a black person but spend all day talking about how much they fear them.
I don't know if the sanctions on South Africa would have affected this, but it would be interesting how they coped if it did. I remember one of my agents in Iran telling me that as a kid she had an Atari ST. Which I suspect is because they would have been importing through European distributors who hadn't gotten on the IBM PC bandwagon yet.
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!metashit, Redactor is a glowie.
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Lies. There's like a bajillion homebrew Russian FPS games ...and Half-Life.
There's even an entire subculture of people who play multiplayer FPS matches without a mouse.
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No electricity, gaming is kill. The end.
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I do read the slice of life/local SA politics ones I promise!
But yeah I wouldn't read about vidya lore. Still would 
for you, though.
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!deathtomicks and sidevoters
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I'LL PAY FOR DRAGON AGE LORE DISCUSSION
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Is it okay if I pop in to call you r-slurred children who could never try something intellectually sophisticated like Betrayal at Krondor?
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Why didnt you ping !sidevoters? Too scared about the devastation we would unleash on your upmarsey ratios?
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Oh, the sidevoter did it because he's a mick. Half the people here are micks. I'm a mick, sir and if you don't shut up, I'll lose control and throw you out of the site.
Imagine this but I'm angry.
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In ancient Persia they had a special law for patricide. This was considered the worst possible offense you could ever do, so the law had all kinds of bizarre horrible tortures to do before they were executed.
But 2500 years ago, contrary to what some of you r-slurs imagine, they were actually human beings just like us.
Whoever wishes to foresee the future must consult the past; for human events ever resemble those of preceding times. This arises from the fact that they are produced by men who ever have been, and ever shall be, animated by the same passions, and thus they necessarily have the same results.
-- Machiavelli
Nobody actually wanted to do these tortures. So they conveniently discovered that everyone who killed their father had actually been switched at birth, so they could just execute him the normal way.
I think we need to apply the same standard to sidevoters sometimes. It's a crime so incomprehensible that you can't believe someone would do it on purpose. I choose to believe that when I get sidevoted it's because they're on mobile and it's raining and their click just didn't register.
!historychads !sidevoters
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Okay, if you insist on being guilty, we can sew you up in a bag with a cat, a chicken, a snake, a monkey, and a turtle and toss you into the river.
(Not making this up. This was a Roman thing. I can't remember the exact animals, but somebody had picked out really well about 5 animals that would not just panic because of drowning but also find their worst enemy in the bag with them. The turtle was one where I don't know how this works, but I am confident that the psycho genius who made this up knows about some interaction between turtles and other animals that I don't. Neighba, you can show me test scores that say people are getting smarter but we have nobody that creative anymore.)
I suspect that like the doppelganger thing this was something never really did but it was used to force people into plea bargains where they agreed to just be killed normally.
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you still have to do it.
your body, our choice.
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I would read it if you could learn to keep it under 6GB of plain text.
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I would read it
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I enjoy your SA longposts but I would never in a billion years read more than three paragraphs about dragonslop
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I would read it and gib dramacoins to you
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Did aevann finally break you
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Aevann r*ped @kaamrev's soul
Also
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What happened?
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I would.
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Where were you guys the past 20 longposts, there has been nothing but negativity
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I would, king
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Where were you guys the past 20 longposts, there has been nothing but negativity
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Maybe take a break to write about lore
and not failed Commonwealth peripheries 
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I'm going to replace you Saffer. Everyone will read my longposts
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I generally don't comment when I have nothing to add on a topic
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I would put it through chromes text to speech app
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I would love to have people in bioware to explain what they were thinking.
When they killed orginal concept. When they pivoted to multiplayer dragon age. And what the frick they were doing last 3 years if this is outcome.
They belived to this game so much they didnt even coombait. Even bg3 coombaits.
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If I remember correctly the initial plan for DA4 was for it to be smaller scale direct continuation of Inquisition after The Trespasser DLC where you play as the Inquisitor again and it was planned to be released back in like 2018 but then it was abandoned because EA wanted a larger scale live service game and then they pulled a bunch of the devs to work on Anthem so it was basically delayed for two years of development time.
My guess is that most of the core development already happened before it was clear it would be even more of a flop as a live service game and they pivoted hard to rewrite a bunch of the stuff in the past 12-18 months.
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Yes and no. That was idea and there is whole art section of what was plan.
EA didnt kill it. Bioware killed it in favour of Anthem. Devlopment of that started in 2012. And it was total shitshow. Moment inqusition came out. They started to shift resources to Anthem. Managment was total shitshow and game still mess in 2017. Thats when bioware went all in on it. Killing dragonage 4.
EA did end up killing multiplayer versio becouse Anthem was such shitshow.
But still. There was preproduction and something happening in 2014-2017. Full production 2019-2021 and full production of this game 2021-2024
Its remarkable how this game and cyberpunk follow excarly same path.
Orginal vision and pre production is killed in favor of another game. Production restarts but only to pivot to another direction soon after. Ultimately end product pays the price.
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Ahem.
Hope this helps!
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The head writer looks like the kind of guy who could get baited into a Twitter screed defending their dogshit, and if not him there are 20 other character sheet writers I'd gamble we'll get at least one unprofessional spaz out with some details.
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I understood three words of your title
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No I downmarsey things that scare me and I don't understand and you seem to be an author of many
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Am I supposed to think the page on the right is worse? I think it looks better, if only slightly. Of course, the steamroller came for any and all straight eye-candy in the end, it doesn't even matter.
#NoMoreFoidArtists2025
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You spoilered some of the posts?
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