So I saw this drama and like any curious dramatard, l looked into some of their profiles. /u/PM_ME_YOUR_SUNSHINE the STEM-cel in that thread was interesting, he was an antiwork user who actually seems to have a decent career, not just that he also claims to have been "self-made" guy who worked and saved from highschool through college without relying on his social network. So why is he seething on antiwork and complaining about the military on /r/Tinder of all places?
First thing I noticed. He's not a legitimate rags to riches story (well middle class) story. He's parents are wealthy STEM-cels as well.
Both his parents work for NASA.
He seems to hate his father in particular for being more successful despite being not as smart and hard working he is.
My dad was a shithead college grad with a 2.1 gpa that got a rinky dink government engineering job and owned 3 houses by the time he was 30.
I do something far more demanding and cutthroat and work 4 times harder than he ever did and I’m happy with the one house I own that’s the size of his master suite. If I was paid what his smartest coworkers back in the 80’s were paid for similar work I’d be making $450k right now. I make a third of that. And I work myself to the bone, I don’t think it’s sustainable. Those guys got to take naps in recliners in a cushy office and never worked more than 40. One of them had an English degree for highly technical work.
He doesn't mention this once but over and over throughout the years.
I own a home. I'm twice as degreed, twice as experienced, and twice as hard working as my dad was at my age yet I have less in benefits and wealth to show for it. Education, healthcare, and home costs are spiraling up while wages and stagnant and degree inflation is getting worse.
I have the SAME discipline as my dad, in the same city. And earn exactly what he made after adjusting for inflation. He had a 2.1 GPA on his bachelors. I had a 3.4 on my first degree, and had 3 years of experience before getting my first full time while my dad had 0.
Not just that he seems to be profoundly insecure towards his better off peers and relatives as well.
My SO and I literally started at the bottom with no support network at 18. There’s so many things people with privilege get without thinking about it that they don’t realize has to come out of hard cash for other people.
Being the offspring of NASA engineers in NASA city is starting at the bottom apparently but the next part is also hilarious.
We’re friends with a couple that make $150k and they are many leagues better off than us because both sets of their parents are at least upper middle class and they are very supportive. My parents are well off but manipulative and abusive and greedy and refused to even fill out a FAFSA for me many years ago before I went from minimal contact to no contact to be able to afford some sanity, my SO’s are just dirt poor. They aren’t trust fund kids, they earn every dollar. But they have had huge advantages that have pushed them about a decade further than us financially. They got gifted newish reliable nice cars as teenagers, my SO and I bought old Hondas partially cash and partially loaned as 16 year olds trying to get to work. Our friends had their living expenses covered while going to college, had tuition covered by scholarship, and only had to pay for books and lab fees and fun money. We had to always be working and hustling for good opportunities (I literally couldn’t afford to make less than $20 an hour so I had to ride engineering student job to engineering student job at manufacturers in the area), paid every single dollar of anything we got past the age of 16, and I had to pay cash for semesters after we both ran over our full ride scholarships chasing grad degrees and other opportunities. They had their $30k wedding covered. They had a gift of $50k to buy their starter home that the girls dad then came in and did things like new plumbing and a roof. We had about $10k we could scrape together for a home, and will most likely pay PMI on our FHA loan forever due to the non existent interest rate we got, all because we had no one to ask for an extra $5k-$10k when our opening for homeownership in our city was closing. And every single thing done to our house was done by us DIY and out of our pocket. No gifts or family to help us out or to even supervise. Any home emergency gets our cold cash and labor thrown at it, while our young neighbor gets her dad to deliver and install a $4k water heater at 2 in the morning.
50s-70s were a time when any moron could throw a business together. My great uncle was an alcoholic with little to no social skills, and became a surveyor/land engineer at 24 with his own sole proprietorship and made $10 million over the course of his career.
My best friends near-illiterate grandfather financed a warehouse with some tiny inheritance money and started storing lumber. Developed lung issues in his 30s that cost like $50 a year to keep under control but nowadays cost you tens of thousands outside of insurance. He has an insane amount of wealth.
Can I do either of those things with the same results? No. I’m far more educated, work far harder, have far more skills, and network out my butt and I’m lucky if I ever have a fraction of their wealth. It’s not how it goes today.
Immense seethe but notice how he brags about paying for his college shit by himself ? How did that happen I wonder? I hope he didn't use his connections to get well paying internships.
Nah, my whole family is in defense/government. I’m telling you administration is chaff because my cousins and aunt-in-law are morons that pull in big money for being on Facebook all day.
I got paid $65k at NASA as an intern to, I shit you not, play Fortnite with some Boeing intern on his mobile xbox/pc station.
It’s all waste. I spent a lot of time in various administration offices at my university. People pulling down six figures that don’t know how to save a word document as a pdf, don’t know how to talk to students, sit on Facebook all day.
He seems to cope frequently about "bums" in NASA, Lockheed Martin and Raytheon making money while doing nothing.
In fact, If you see this dude pooping on something it's very likely something he tried and failed.
Like being a doctor for example.
Lol, the doctors at HH aren’t making bank. I wouldn’t be surprised if most are underpaid.
Anything near $200k is criminal pay in 2023 for an MD. Yet it’s such a common salary country wide. Doctors were making more than $200k in the 90’s and 00’s and healthcare wasn’t this fricked. Their wages stagnate (read decrease if inflation jumps above 3% any year) for two decades and everything in healthcare also goes to shit.
People that make less than doctors don’t understand that $200k isn’t a good return on investment for that training. And that there IS a massive lifestyle difference between a doctor with a family on $300k versus that same doctor on $250k plus loans from the 2010’s.
This system is fricking everyone hard from nurses to doctors to even the bottom line of hospitals just trying to keep their doors open. It serves big money interests and that’s literally it.
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And all the doctors I knew growing up said don’t be a doctor. Same with the lawyers. Engineers said their glory days were behind them and the work and the pay hadn’t been the same in decades.
I love a country whose citizens are being boiled alive.
Does this come from a genuine care for the profession or Cope?.Let's have a look.
So I have two finals on wednesday that are super important to me. They were classes that were already tough for me where I got shitty professors. It wasn't all their fault for my grade, but I and the entire class averaged worse on every test than other classes. Right now I have to do moderately well on the exams and I'll pass, but I've heard the exams are real b-words. I'm currently preparing in overtime now for them as I've been doing, but I'm coming to terms that I could possibly get lower than a C overall for both classes which would "not pass" or fail me, I'd have to retake these classes.
I'm only in my freshman semester, is this a death blow to my chances of getting into Medical School? Possibly two retaken classes on my transcript? Thanks
Tsk Tsk. This seems to extend to even the subjects he struggled with.
I'm a sophomore ME student. Physics II was a nightmare last semester so I dropped it to save my GPA. Looking to take it and Diff EQ and get my depth study out of the way this summer. Am I eligible to take this classes at a community college? Anybody have any experience with these classes at Shelton?
A few years later
Figure out what the end goal is, then put up with the bullshit of whatever the frick college these days throws at you to get to that.
That’s all college is. A massive bullshit gatekeeping scam means to an end.
So many of my friends who would have loved engineering quit around the half way point, normally because of one class or professor.
It’s the most immature decision one can make.
I hated every second of college and love my job. I had the job picked out in my mind before I started classes. Learned next to nothing from the classes and everything from a bunch of internships that led to my career.
Figure out what you want to work as because college is gonna be a bunch of bullshit either way.
I don’t use diff eq at my job because I like s*x and my peepee works, have a good one.
Even the money he earned from his school days seem to be because of the top tier school his father sent him to and the connections he made there.
I have friends from wealthy families that speak multiple languages, play multiple instruments, are politically active, have worked meaningful jobs rather than your average minimum wage teenage job, and have perfect grades and perfect health.
To be specific he went to the best school within the 500 mile radius(although, still sounds kind of shit)of where he lives where he met other rich and talented kids. So it's no surprise one of the "gigs" he did in his school days are being a studio musician and being part of an "indie band", running a YouTube channel and most likely getting some comfy part time job with his connections. With no doubt expensive equipment that his parents paid for(admits to having a lot of left over after years of running a studio...by the time he turned 18) and "gigs" his rich connected pals helped him get. They also brought him a nice pick up truck since he loved them. Such a hard childhood this lad has had.
How often do you guys encounter this breed of leftoid? (or lolibert based on posts in Libertarian and anarcho_capitalism)
I've come across a quite of few of them. Last week I came across another leftoid rich kid who failed to get into med school, in engineering with mediocre grades(because of too much vidya), resenting his father and now currently in the process of ing out. Is being an underachiever from a rich/educated family that mindbreaking?
Edit: Forgot to add, REGRETS taking Mechanical Engineering as well because his Electrical Engineering peers are better at their jobs. Also, admits to not taking CS course in University of Alabama because it's needlessly hard and then copes about CS being a useless degree(despite being a programmer at the end of the day). It's just copium all the way down for this guy.
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He is a lobert and on /r/antiwork?
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Seems to be the case.
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I don't get it
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What didn't you get?
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What did he mean by social network?
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His friends and family in the industry. You know, connections.
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Do you mean he claimed to come from middle class or rose to middle class?
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Rose to upper middle class.
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That's some mighty fine stalking 👌👌. At first started off as some mildly r-slurred complaining then lmao 65k internship at NASA. After that felt zero sympathy for him.
This neighbor just wants to be one of the noble, downtrodden poors. Of course he has never met any actual poors because he would realize they are MAGAchuds and immediately recoil from them.
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You felt sympathy for him?
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THAT WAS FROM A YEAR AGO. Why are you lurking there. Are you from the past.
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You didn't answer my question
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No?
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OP is Frank Grimes
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I don't get it
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Makes me think about recent articles by Deboer and Hanania about "elite overproduction" and the demand for recognition. Reminds me of one of my favorite childhood insults: "You act like your mom told you that you were special too much."
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I don't get it
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No kidding he mentions making around around 1000 dollars a month with his highschool gigs in his older posts. Also where he admits to his parents buying him a pick up truck.
https://www.reveddit.com/r/personalfinance/comments/27i29h/i_am_a_16_year_old_male_with_1000_coming_in_a
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Bruh
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Get this.
https://old.reddit.com/r/WeAreTheMusicMakers/comments/65b9ne/how_to_split_taxes_recording_cost_and_gig_money/dg9fypl/
He's around 18/19 years old here. Darn, do poor Amerimutt teenagers with no connections really earn that much through part time jobs to afford all this? Must be a really industrious young lad.
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: Arrr, ye scurvy dog! How dare ye question me, the great Captain Jack Sparrow! I'll have ye know that I've worked hard for everything I have, and I'll continue to work hard to maintain my wealth and status. So ye best step off, before I make ye walk the plank!
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BBBB is 1000% more likeable with this pirate gimmick.
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But the old bbbb was guaranteed to bait r-slurs
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: Argh, ye scurvy bilge rat! I'll have ye know that I am a fearsome pirate captain, and ye best be showin' me some respect! This is no gimmick, this is who I am, and I'll thank ye not to be insultin' me like that!
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I don't get it
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Supposedly “gigs regularly”, has zero expenses because mommy & daddy, and is singularly minded about his interest (as teens often are) that he pours all his money into then yeah not too outlandish. However, he is not poor. Amerimutt poor for mayos is the parents maybe help you buy a jalopy and pay the liability insurance for you to get back and forth to your minimum wagie job. What’s left over depends on how much you blow on toys, drugs, goyslop, entertainment, and gas and how much your parents are helping you with clothes and other stuff (which does not come out to be 5 grand in band equipment).
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Interest as in hobbies or as in ?
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It really puts into perspective how r-slurred some people are with money. Frugality is a virtue IMO but when you're born with a silver spoon. You just end up an entitled r-slur.
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you'll never live like the common people
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I don't get it
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YWNBAP
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I don't get it
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Thank god
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Comparison is the death of joy
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Unless you spend your time comparing yourself to r-slurs and lolcows. Then it's pretty sweet.
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But he would be a Jew?
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Do you think Jesus wouldn't try and end the fursecution of !palestine?
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But wouldn't you call him a settler? How could he end persecution if the people he wants to help want him dead?
!palestine !jidf
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The entire thing of his genealogy tracing back to David indicates he was supposed to be native there. And if you argue with that then you kind of acknowledge that he wasn't a furry.
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Yeah but he would be called a settler despite being a native Jew
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Yes, but he would try to end persecution and suffering of everyone, especially the Jews and Israeli people
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!friendsofsphereserf he responded to a
1 yearalmost 2 year old postMar 15 2023
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Why?
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lol true
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I agree but this Motherlover could do with comparing genuine poverty to his suburban life growing lmaooo
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He'd be happy if he wasn't letting his dad live in his head eternally.
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But Enrico, his dad is LITERALLY Hitler
Gotta wonder do these guys even REALIZE they're fueled by some weird inferiority complex?
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I have no idea. My dad is pretty great, but I don't resent him for it. I love him, because he's my dad. All this parental alienation is super unhealthy. Any time it's like "my dad sneezed within 30ft of me" and people tell them "cut them off forever!" then they wonder why they're alone and sad.
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no joke, on youtube, tiktok, pinterest, instagram, ifunny, comments-- BASICALLY EVERYWHERE right now
these days people on groomercord who immediately recommend going no contact, run forever and ever instead of attempting to fix relationship issues get called redditors love to see it
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I think there's a time to cut family out, and it's usually when they're drug addicts. If my brother was an addict (he's not), I wouldn't let him around my family. I think there is a time and place to cut ties and it's when it puts your immediate family (wife and kids) in actual danger. Short of that you can just hold your parents at arms length, easy as.
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Comparison is the thief of joy*
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I'm quoting Twain, not Roosevelt.
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Ur both frickin nerds
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Sneed.
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Every time i see you post i read it in hanks voice. This was a perfect one.
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You should make your alt dean.
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I made a Russian Guyovitch one but I forgot the password.
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Hes also an r-slur for failing out of physics and diffeq. I can guarantee he sucks at his job if he got grades like that
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Cant speak to diffeq, but failing out of physics is just sad. I did physics 2 in the summer, played FGO on my phone through class, and got a B. I had a harder time with calc 1.
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Can't relate as the first generation in my working class family to get a degree.
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I come from intergenerational poorcels farmercels, so I can literally only fail upwards
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That's not true, you could end up homeless
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No such thing as up, only out
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Just u wait once I'm qualified
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Proud of you!
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are u proud of me?
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Brotha done made it out the hood.
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Good job.
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I’m technically the failson vs. my sister who is in med school (first Dr. in the family) but my managed to land me a nice IT gig w/o a degree or debit
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we're proud of you
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Your parents are failures for a reason. Make sure you don’t reproduce and spread your inferior genes
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My mom is great.
My dad... not so much.
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!effortposters come updoot
Bad childhood and self-made "stolen valor" is one of those interesting social tropes that I don't see discussed very often. If I wanted to get really pseudointellectual about it I could try to roll it into some blanket statement about the inferiority complex of the American middle class, but I'm not confident that it's pervasive enough to throw around claims like that.
Like playing poor has been a thing with urban cool kids all the way back to the 30s, and it's kind of been discussed to death, but you don't see a lot of conversations around people who've either co-opted their parents self-made narratives or adopted an exaggerated one themselves. I think it's at least as old of a trope though. DD(R) and William Randolph Hearst built entire brands on that narrative. Even republican Roman politicians were all obsessed with pretending to be humble farmers reluctantly called to serve Roma.
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Many middle/upper-middle class morons online are attracted to anti-capitalist rhetoric primarily because they feel that capitalism hasn't evaluated their greatness accurately, because if it had they would be vastly more successful and well-respected than they are now.
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I know people like this. Relatives paid full tuition for private university and they dropped out because they smoked too much weed and partied.
Now its capitalism's fault that nobody told them about the trades beforehand and they wasted time and money.
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It's easy to float to the top half in an good but non-fancy-art-school university art program
all these places a good chunk of these neighbors are doing weed thinking it makes their art REALLY unique and they are feeling it but they just drew weedheaded art that looks like stoner-butt art.
sadly, a lot of them are the better artists in these programs they just have this whole "tortured artist" thing where they are scared soberly to face their insecurities that they might not be that good so they stay in their lane, don't put in enough effort because their partying and having relationship drama
so much complaining about capitalism once the optimism of their freshman year burns off
"im so angry no one buys paintings, it's mass consumption culture"
it's not capitalism fault that almost no one wants your mid psychedelic inspired artwork or your "feelings"
stop complaining and offer to paint some Karen's dog on facebook, you can get hundreds of dollars if good
oh wait u can't paint dog or baby or bride or someone's beloved cozy barn on a hill--- you have to paint your screaming depression in a liminal space with shitty muddy colors because you don't know actually how to use the bright colors that you can "feel", never mind 🙄
this whole thing shoulda been a hobby for you but now you expect to be an esteemed philosopher king and enlighten society with ✨art✨
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Photographers don't have this problem. There are literally dozens of them offering to do your headshot or use you as a model for like $5, solely so they can improve their craft and network a little and maybe meet women
A very practical type of artist. Very cool of them compared to more "creative traditional" artists who just b-word and moan
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Mark my words: AI artists will be the photographers of the modern age. Practical, pragmatic, resourceful, productive. Like photographers, they'll use technology to create something better than what you can do without it.
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Except a GPU that can do AI is only a few hunno while camera equipment that can do pro photography is one grand minimum, and only if you’re absolutely just MacGyvermaxxing the shit out of your mid-tier camera with every hack and trick. Normally a few Gs. There’ll be open source AI stylistic collections for EZ drag n drop shit, even a literally cavezoomer with an Alienware could do it.
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the whole system cost is over a grand (counting only the GPU is r-slurred, like counting only lenses) and besides both of those are cheap enough that you can get into it reasonably as a hobby. You certainly don't need $5k in photography equipment to start fricking around with it and learning the basics.
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This is one of the worst posts I have EVER seen. Delete it.
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Explains the attitude of the average artcel. They're poor because capitalism is merciful enough to let them be poor instead of sent to a forced labor camp under communism.
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noooo im not gonna be a in a forced labor camp im gonna design uniforms
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People who are good at playing poor get rewarded with college admissions. Every whitoid that wants to enter a prestigious school has to submit some kind of hardship essay.
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I wish I grew up in a nice enough neighborhood to discuss the effects of suburbanites trying to act poor lmaoooooooo
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I moved from hillbilly heck to a yuppie butt pretentious town as a teenager
it was quite the experience
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I once stole valor from a candy store, it was sweet.
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