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EFFORTPOST [Pointless Effort Post]Not drama but something I found mildly interesting looking into profile of one redditoid linked here:marseydetective:. You can actually see their inferiority complex develope over time on reddit:marseysipping:

https://rdrama.net/post/155079/tinder-foid-asks-totally-normal-question

So I saw this drama and like any curious dramatard, l looked into some of their profiles. /u/PM_ME_YOUR_SUNSHINE the STEM-cel in that thread was interesting, he was an antiwork user who actually seems to have a decent career, not just that he also claims to have been "self-made" guy who worked and saved from highschool through college without relying on his social network. So why is he seething on antiwork and complaining about the military on /r/Tinder of all places?

First thing I noticed. He's not a legitimate rags to riches story (well middle class) story. He's parents are wealthy STEM-cels as well.:marseyunamused:

Both his parents work for NASA.

He seems to hate his father in particular for being more successful despite being not as smart and hard working he is.:marseylaugh:

My dad was a shithead college grad with a 2.1 gpa that got a rinky dink government engineering job and owned 3 houses by the time he was 30.

I do something far more demanding and cutthroat and work 4 times harder than he ever did and I’m happy with the one house I own that’s the size of his master suite. If I was paid what his smartest coworkers back in the 80’s were paid for similar work I’d be making $450k right now. I make a third of that. And I work myself to the bone, I don’t think it’s sustainable. Those guys got to take naps in recliners in a cushy office and never worked more than 40. One of them had an English degree for highly technical work.

He doesn't mention this once but over and over throughout the years.:marseylaughwith:

I own a home. I'm twice as degreed, twice as experienced, and twice as hard working as my dad was at my age yet I have less in benefits and wealth to show for it. Education, healthcare, and home costs are spiraling up while wages and stagnant and degree inflation is getting worse.

I have the SAME discipline as my dad, in the same city. And earn exactly what he made after adjusting for inflation. He had a 2.1 GPA on his bachelors. I had a 3.4 on my first degree, and had 3 years of experience before getting my first full time while my dad had 0.

Not just that he seems to be profoundly insecure towards his better off peers and relatives as well.

My SO and I literally started at the bottom with no support network at 18. There’s so many things people with privilege get without thinking about it that they don’t realize has to come out of hard cash for other people.

Being the offspring of NASA engineers in NASA city is starting at the bottom apparently :marseyeyeroll: but the next part is also hilarious.

We’re friends with a couple that make $150k and they are many leagues better off than us because both sets of their parents are at least upper middle class and they are very supportive. My parents are well off but manipulative and abusive and greedy and refused to even fill out a FAFSA for me many years ago before I went from minimal contact to no contact to be able to afford some sanity, my SO’s are just dirt poor. They aren’t trust fund kids, they earn every dollar. But they have had huge advantages that have pushed them about a decade further than us financially. They got gifted newish reliable nice cars as teenagers, my SO and I bought old Hondas partially cash and partially loaned as 16 year olds trying to get to work. Our friends had their living expenses covered while going to college, had tuition covered by scholarship, and only had to pay for books and lab fees and fun money. We had to always be working and hustling for good opportunities (I literally couldn’t afford to make less than $20 an hour so I had to ride engineering student job to engineering student job at manufacturers in the area), paid every single dollar of anything we got past the age of 16, and I had to pay cash for semesters after we both ran over our full ride scholarships chasing grad degrees and other opportunities. They had their $30k wedding covered. They had a gift of $50k to buy their starter home that the girls dad then came in and did things like new plumbing and a roof. We had about $10k we could scrape together for a home, and will most likely pay PMI on our FHA loan forever due to the non existent interest rate we got, all because we had no one to ask for an extra $5k-$10k when our opening for homeownership in our city was closing. And every single thing done to our house was done by us DIY and out of our pocket. No gifts or family to help us out or to even supervise. Any home emergency gets our cold cash and labor thrown at it, while our young neighbor gets her dad to deliver and install a $4k water heater at 2 in the morning.

Another one:marseycopeseethedilate:

50s-70s were a time when any moron could throw a business together. My great uncle was an alcoholic with little to no social skills, and became a surveyor/land engineer at 24 with his own sole proprietorship and made $10 million over the course of his career.

My best friends near-illiterate grandfather financed a warehouse with some tiny inheritance money and started storing lumber. Developed lung issues in his 30s that cost like $50 a year to keep under control but nowadays cost you tens of thousands outside of insurance. He has an insane amount of wealth.

Can I do either of those things with the same results? No. I’m far more educated, work far harder, have far more skills, and network out my butt and I’m lucky if I ever have a fraction of their wealth. It’s not how it goes today.

Immense seethe but notice how he brags about paying for his college shit by himself ? How did that happen I wonder? :marseyhmm: I hope he didn't use his connections to get well paying internships.

Nah, my whole family is in defense/government. I’m telling you administration is chaff because my cousins and aunt-in-law are morons that pull in big money for being on Facebook all day.

I got paid $65k at NASA as an intern to, I shit you not, play Fortnite with some Boeing intern on his mobile xbox/pc station.

It’s all waste. I spent a lot of time in various administration offices at my university. People pulling down six figures that don’t know how to save a word document as a pdf, don’t know how to talk to students, sit on Facebook all day.

He seems to cope frequently about "bums" in NASA, Lockheed Martin and Raytheon making money while doing nothing.

In fact, If you see this dude pooping on something it's very likely something he tried and failed:marseydicklet:.

Like being a doctor for example.

Lol, the doctors at HH aren’t making bank. I wouldn’t be surprised if most are underpaid.

Anything near $200k is criminal pay in 2023 for an MD. Yet it’s such a common salary country wide. Doctors were making more than $200k in the 90’s and 00’s and healthcare wasn’t this fricked. Their wages stagnate (read decrease if inflation jumps above 3% any year) for two decades and everything in healthcare also goes to shit.

People that make less than doctors don’t understand that $200k isn’t a good return on investment for that training. And that there IS a massive lifestyle difference between a doctor with a family on $300k versus that same doctor on $250k plus loans from the 2010’s.

This system is fricking everyone hard from nurses to doctors to even the bottom line of hospitals just trying to keep their doors open. It serves big money interests and that’s literally it.

And in another comment

And all the doctors I knew growing up said don’t be a doctor. Same with the lawyers. Engineers said their glory days were behind them and the work and the pay hadn’t been the same in decades.

I love a country whose citizens are being boiled alive.

Does this come from a genuine care for the profession or Cope?:marseyhmm:.Let's have a look.

So I have two finals on wednesday that are super important to me. They were classes that were already tough for me where I got shitty professors. It wasn't all their fault for my grade, but I and the entire class averaged worse on every test than other classes. Right now I have to do moderately well on the exams and I'll pass, but I've heard the exams are real b-words. I'm currently preparing in overtime now for them as I've been doing, but I'm coming to terms that I could possibly get lower than a C overall for both classes which would "not pass" or fail me, I'd have to retake these classes.

I'm only in my freshman semester, is this a death blow to my chances of getting into Medical School? Possibly two retaken classes on my transcript? Thanks

Tsk Tsk. This seems to extend to even the subjects he struggled with.

I'm a sophomore ME student. Physics II was a nightmare last semester so I dropped it to save my GPA. Looking to take it and Diff EQ and get my depth study out of the way this summer. Am I eligible to take this classes at a community college? Anybody have any experience with these classes at Shelton?

A few years later:marseysipping:

Figure out what the end goal is, then put up with the bullshit of whatever the frick college these days throws at you to get to that.

That’s all college is. A massive bullshit gatekeeping scam means to an end.

So many of my friends who would have loved engineering quit around the half way point, normally because of one class or professor.

It’s the most immature decision one can make.

I hated every second of college and love my job. I had the job picked out in my mind before I started classes. Learned next to nothing from the classes and everything from a bunch of internships that led to my career.

Figure out what you want to work as because college is gonna be a bunch of bullshit either way.

I don’t use diff eq at my job because I like s*x and my peepee works, have a good one.

Even the money he earned from his school days seem to be because of the top tier school his father sent him to and the connections he made there.

I have friends from wealthy families that speak multiple languages, play multiple instruments, are politically active, have worked meaningful jobs rather than your average minimum wage teenage job, and have perfect grades and perfect health.

To be specific he went to the best school within the 500 mile radius(although, still sounds kind of shit)of where he lives where he met other rich and talented kids. So it's no surprise one of the "gigs" he did in his school days are being a studio musician and being part of an "indie band", running a YouTube channel and most likely getting some comfy part time job with his connections. With no doubt expensive equipment that his parents paid for(admits to having a lot of left over after years of running a studio...by the time he turned 18) and "gigs" his rich connected pals helped him get. They also brought him a nice pick up truck since he loved them. Such a hard childhood this lad has had:marseydisagree:.

How often do you guys encounter this breed of leftoid? (or lolibert based on posts in Libertarian and anarcho_capitalism)

I've come across a quite of few of them. Last week I came across another leftoid rich kid who failed to get into med school, in engineering with mediocre grades(because of too much vidya), resenting his father and now currently in the process of :marseytrain:ing out. Is being an underachiever from a rich/educated family that mindbreaking?:marseythinkorino:

Edit: Forgot to add, REGRETS taking Mechanical Engineering as well because his Electrical Engineering peers are better at their jobs:marseypepe2:. Also, admits to not taking CS course in University of Alabama because it's needlessly hard and then copes about CS being a useless degree(despite being a programmer at the end of the day). It's just copium all the way down for this guy:marseyitsoveryall:.

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!effortposters come updoot

Bad childhood and self-made "stolen valor" is one of those interesting social tropes that I don't see discussed very often. If I wanted to get really pseudointellectual about it I could try to roll it into some blanket statement about the inferiority complex of the American middle class, but I'm not confident that it's pervasive enough to throw around claims like that.

Like playing poor has been a thing with urban cool kids all the way back to the 30s, and it's kind of been discussed to death, but you don't see a lot of conversations around people who've either co-opted their parents self-made narratives or adopted an exaggerated one themselves. I think it's at least as old of a trope though. DD(R) and William Randolph Hearst built entire brands on that narrative. Even republican Roman politicians were all obsessed with pretending to be humble farmers reluctantly called to serve Roma.

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Many middle/upper-middle class morons online are attracted to anti-capitalist rhetoric primarily because they feel that capitalism hasn't evaluated their greatness accurately, because if it had they would be vastly more successful and well-respected than they are now.

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I know people like this. Relatives paid full tuition for private university and they dropped out because they smoked too much weed and partied.

Now its capitalism's fault that nobody told them about the trades beforehand and they wasted time and money.

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It's easy to float to the top half in an good but non-fancy-art-school university art program

all these places a good chunk of these neighbors are doing weed thinking it makes their art REALLY unique and they are feeling it but they just drew weedheaded art that looks like stoner-butt art.

sadly, a lot of them are the better artists in these programs they just have this whole "tortured artist" thing where they are scared soberly to face their insecurities that they might not be that good so they stay in their lane, don't put in enough effort because their partying and having relationship drama

so much complaining about capitalism once the optimism of their freshman year burns off :marseyaware:

"im so angry no one buys paintings, it's mass consumption culture"

it's not capitalism fault that almost no one wants your mid psychedelic inspired artwork or your "feelings"

stop complaining and offer to paint some Karen's dog on facebook, you can get hundreds of dollars if good

oh wait u can't paint dog or baby or bride or someone's beloved cozy barn on a hill--- you have to paint your screaming depression in a liminal space with shitty muddy colors because you don't know actually how to use the bright colors that you can "feel", never mind 🙄

:smh: this whole thing shoulda been a hobby for you but now you expect to be an esteemed philosopher king and enlighten society with ✨art✨

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This is one of the worst posts I have EVER seen. Delete it.

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Photographers don't have this problem. There are literally dozens of them offering to do your headshot or use you as a model for like $5, solely so they can improve their craft and network a little and maybe meet women

A very practical type of artist. Very cool of them compared to more "creative traditional" artists who just b-word and moan

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Mark my words: AI artists will be the photographers of the modern age. Practical, pragmatic, resourceful, productive. Like photographers, they'll use technology to create something better than what you can do without it.

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Except a GPU that can do AI is only a few hunno while camera equipment that can do pro photography is one grand minimum, and only if you’re absolutely just MacGyvermaxxing the shit out of your mid-tier camera with every hack and trick. Normally a few Gs. There’ll be open source AI stylistic collections for EZ drag n drop shit, even a literally cavezoomer with an Alienware could do it.

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:marseyshrug: the whole system cost is over a grand (counting only the GPU is r-slurred, like counting only lenses) and besides both of those are cheap enough that you can get into it reasonably as a hobby. You certainly don't need $5k in photography equipment to start fricking around with it and learning the basics.

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Explains the attitude of the average artcel. They're poor because capitalism is merciful enough to let them be poor instead of sent to a forced labor camp under communism.

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:marseyrage: noooo im not gonna be a in a forced labor camp im gonna design uniforms

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People who are good at playing poor get rewarded with college admissions. Every whitoid that wants to enter a prestigious school has to submit some kind of hardship essay.

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I wish I grew up in a nice enough neighborhood to discuss the effects of suburbanites trying to act poor lmaoooooooo

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I moved from hillbilly heck to a yuppie butt pretentious town as a teenager

it was quite the experience :marseyxd:

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I once stole valor from a candy store, it was sweet.

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