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https://quora.com/How-did-real-bullets-find-themselves-in-the-prop-gun-that-killed-Brandon-Lee

The official story is that a β€œdummy round” (a bullet from a round with no propellant) got lodged in the barrel earlier. Then, not realizing that there was a bullet in there, they loaded a blank in the gun behind it. To be clear, calling it a β€œprop gun” is misleading. It was a real gun that was only supposed to be firing blanks. In essence, the dummy round had a bullet but no propellant. The blank had propellant, but no bullet. Put the two together, and you have all the elements of a real round of ammunition, and it fired with enough force to kill him.

I’ve read theories that this rather convoluted tale is actually a cover for a simpler explanation: the gun was loaded with real ammunition by accident. It sounds, ridiculous, I know, but apparently there was real ammo on set (in violation of basic safety protocols), and it’s not hard to imagine a set of circumstances where dummy rounds and real rounds could get mixed up.

Either way, it’s a pretty good example of why no scene should ever be shot, using any kind of explosive or firearm, even fake ones, without a competent armorer on set. Like with so many aspects of safety, if someone isn’t carefully watching to make sure an accident is impossible, sooner or later it’s going to happen.

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How has no famous detective novel been written on this premise yet?

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i think the idea that nobody checked the gun or other basic safety stuff was done might be unrealistic lol

like live firing exercises in the military (not US) is always a stressful event for the officers/NCOs in charge for fear of something like this happening and a lot of emphasis would be put on reminders to check your weapon and stuff

i recall when a fellow newstrag soldier misplaced his rifle's firing pin we had to literally touch grass to find it :marseylaugh: good times

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How long did it take you?

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i can't recall, probably half an hour or so before he found it in his locker

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just average things that happen in a conscript army

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Are you South Korean?

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싱가포λ₯΄

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I thought you were Singaporean.

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google translate it

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❀️diversity is our strength

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just average things that happen in a conscript army

That shit happens in volunteer armies and not just the US Marines.

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i think soldiers are the same everywhere, more brawn than brains used most of the time

in my case we're forced conscripted so there's even less motivation compared to a volunteer or paid individual

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That's why it would be such a good detective story. You'd have the prop guys up as the main suspect but it also would be obvious that they would be suspect so you'd have to look at people who might want to frame them. How it was actually managed, all that. Frick I wish I could write stories.

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Hahaha, had to do the same after a rifle qual and some jackoff lost a spring in the grass when cleaning their m4

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He looks like a cute twink in the pic but this dude would have been a huge star that accidentally an Hero'd with a blank on a tv set. I used to watch his show voyagers when I was a wee wizling. He was charismatic as heck.

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this dude would have been a huge star

He would have been Weinstein's peepee Muppet, nothing more.

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Anyone β€˜member the description of his dong during the metoo stuff? That thing sounded like he hit it with a sledgehammer and paid a trucker for every tire that ran over it. :marseywtf:

Imagine sucking that for a minor roll in some shitty movie :marseylaugh:

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I’d take him as a peepee marionette, look at that oily face yummm

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Iirc, the reason why they had real bullets on set was because they decided to be cheap and make their own dummies and blanks. The story I remember it as is that when they made the dummy bullets, they removed the propellant but they didn’t remove the primer, so when they put in the newly made dummies for some reason or another, someone pressed the trigger which ignited the primer in the cartridge. While the primer is not enough to propel a bullet, it is enough to move it from the chamber into the barrel where the rifling keeps it in place. So when they removed the dummies, without noticing that the bullet for one the cartridges is missing, and added the blanks, the gun basically had all the components for a loaded gun in place like that account said.

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cheaping out on bullets sounds darwinian

plastic blanks should be cheap right? they still bang with the flash and all

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You usually by them in bulk, so they probably thought you could get one pack of normal bullets and make them half half dummies and blanks or buy one pack each of dummies and blanks for twice the price. Probably thought they could save that extra 5-10 dollars for something important.

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Maybe it was some esoteric round

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Tfw it's cheaper to buy a brand new Hi-Point than to buy 50 shells of .357

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Y evn tri :marseysadcat:

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The official story is BS. Guns don't work like that. It was loaded with real ammo.

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Just dub in the gunshot sound later?

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Even today that still sucks. Digital muzzle flairs still don't look amazing.

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maybe the technology wasn't available back then or people find any excuse to shoot guns :!marseyshooting:

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