Homer's onto something here... pic.twitter.com/uEmRSLYoc1
— The Simpsons (@TheSimpsons) December 6, 2023
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As if it wasn't already clear that The Simpsons has been a mockery of itself for at least a decade, they've managed to reach an even lower level, reaching a new plateau of unamusement while simultaneously torturing all viewers with absolutely terrible voice acting performances. The clip presented here is a good example of this. What is the point of this shit anyway and who is watching it? Zoomers may not know it (or maybe they do, since zoomers are often portrayed as a group to be hated, even though half of all internet users are zoomers), but The Simpsons was by far the best animated series of all time, and in the highest tier of all shows - namely the S Tier along with the Twilight Zone, Twin Peaks and Euphoria. Just let it end already. It's not even fun to hatewatch any longer.
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Writers gotta be trolling giving poor Julie Kavner a speech.
I'm out of the loop here and apologize if this has been covered but Marge sounds awful. I haven't watched the show in years and decided to tune in tonight and all I could think was Marge sounds truly awful. It legitimately ruined my watching experience and had to switch it off. Are they just allowing the show to die with the original cast? I can't imagine Disney keeping this going for much longer.
Disney is desperate right now and The Simpsons is one of their big Disney+ hits. Rumors say they're pushing the Simpsons producers for a new movie after their disastrous box office year. Recasting seems more likely than cancelling at this point, should it be needed.
I think this is the first time Skinners voice has sounded off
and they want to bring harry back for another spinal tap movie?
Honestly at this point, they should maybe consider using the literal weeks of audio voice recordings to make an ai voice program for the voice actors. Have the voice actors still record lines to get the cadence and emotion right and use the ai to fix the voices. Everyone still gets paid and gets to keep their voices from degrading further
I was willing to give it a shot. I'm a lifelong B&S fanatic, so I had to tune in to see if they were gonna do an end credits song and I was delighted to see they did, even if they didn't write it themselves.
Of course, I had to skip to the end. I just can't handle the shitty, limp, lifeless "writing" the show has devolved to, and obviously the VOICES.
Even Skinner sounds like he has about three weeks to live. And as soon as Marge comes on, I instinctively turn the sound off and turn on the subtitles. They need to stage an intervention for Julie Kavner. This can't keep going on. Just use AI based on her voice from 40 years ago and keep paying her, if that's what it takes.
A+ for Belle & Sebastian, D- for the rest of this horseslop.
PS....the song playing in the montage is called "If You Find Yourself Caught In Love" from the album "Dear Catastrophe Waitress" if you were curious.
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Post your favourite Simpsons episode here!
Mine is Last Exit to Springfield.
I know it is a bit generic but this is an absolute behemoth of an episode. True sovl.
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That was physically uncomfortable and I'm cross with you
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Homer talking to Marge on a Smartphone and even knowing what a destination wedding is just feels wrong.
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The question he should be asking is “are they feeding us”?
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Sucks that the trajectory of the show's run from S1-15 implies that the Homer of Season 33 would have simply gibbered in nonenglish pidgin and promptly eaten Marge; and yet we get this slop instead.
Wellspoken Homer only works when the crayon in his brain moves slightly, and he immediately forgets what he's said.
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This is the height of the Simpsons and wedding humor, the other being when Bart stood up and clapped when Patty refused to marry a man in a dress.
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I don't understand why this rant spanned several locations either when it easily could have ended in the bedroom 3 minutes later.
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It's funny to intersperse the locations because it implies Homer is ranting about it nonstop for days on end, but it dragged on so long it felt like it was days long
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Saw a guy on twitter
refer to homer's rant as a "millenial's tiktok 
rant" and it makes perfect 
sense, the writers are all brainded lefty millenials and think 
that an overacted tiktok 
preachy rant is the peak of entertainment
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political orientation isnt the main thing wrong
they just sheltered af
the writers could be rightoids and it would still suck, bc most the people who struggle to break into writing and succeed "against all odds" are peoples who's parents wanted and expected a college education from them
so they went from highschool to college and wrote shitty stories on their macbook with all the QUIRKY stickers and a lot professors told them it was good (it wasn't) because they get paid to be encouraging and if their student evaluations go up, that's clout and job security
some of them may have unique life experience 💫traveling💫 tho, but the traveling is usually generic traveler locations where all the other rich kids go for enrichment
they have break up and it's the first really bad thing to ever happen to them
hoo boy
thats when the hair dye and 2nd, 3rd, and 4th tattoo comes in
and obsession with "trauma"
edit: the odds they suceeded against was their parents mildly complained or weren't encouraging, and the less white a writer is, the more they will whine about their ethnicity... as if white parents want their well educated kids to be cartoon writers
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Yeah some r-slurred blue class worker like Homer would not have the problem of being invited to too many cross-country destination weddings.
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Yeah one big problem is that modern writing (and this goes for art and music in general) is pretty hard for a normal person to break into without financial ruin first so the majority of people who do it are upper middle class kids who have mom and dad's money to support them or industry plants/nepotism types who will have a job secured.
And these types rarely have anything interesting to say.
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The SOVL that comes from genuinely hating your shitty job is long gone
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True, if your goal is to be a comedy
writer, theres already countless people that have done the hard work and paved the way for you, and if you just follow 
in their footsteps youre not gonna 
have anything 
new or interesting 
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Honestly in a way that kinda fits. If Homer stays the same age in every series, 2023 Homer would probably have been born in the late 80s/early 90s, so he'd be a millennial
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They've been doing that, moving episodes set in the past and future forward relative to the year. It's fricked and I wish they'd stop, but that's true for the show in general.
I really liked the movie, but other than that I've not watched The Simpsons for far longer than I watched it.
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Why waste your time watching a zombie show when the always evergreen !familyman is just around the corner?
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I thought family guy ended like 10 years ago and then rdrama went and spoiled *****'s death for me
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Peter and Lois gradually realizing they've degenerated into monsters and spending the entire episode trying to kill themselves but failing because Disney still needs the money would be hilarious.
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Do you mean Homer and Marge? Because that all still applies to them, but better.
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Why not both?
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I actually thought you made these just now for me
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Dw brian came back
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Family Guy got way worse after only 3 seasons. Simpsons at least had a 9 year run or so.
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Family guy is still good, just in a different way.
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Familyman is being moved to the Wednesday night to kill it, a similar tactic they used to kill it 20 years ago.
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They still run it on broadcast tv?? Lmao what.
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New seasons still being issued baby
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WE HAVE TO GO OUTSIDE AND PICKET
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Family Guy is 20 years old?
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First season aired in 1999. It's only two years newer than South Park
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It premiered after Superbowl XXXIII.
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American Dude is still good and still releasing new episodes
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This episode is like 7+ year old
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It's a good show!
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Honestly if you consider the entirety of family guy vs the entirety of the simpsons, family guy is probably better as a whole
Family guy still generates a slightly humorous moment every now and then while the simpsons has been a zombie show for what, over 20 years now?
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Nah, the height of The Simpsons is far higher than even the height of Family Guy. It's likely more watchable than The Simpsons now, but even if they're of the same quality now it's fallen far, far less than The Simpsons has.
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Holy heck, put Marge's poor voice actor out of her misery. Even Homer's is starting to go.
I don't think I've watched a new episode of this show since like 2012. It had a really good run for like the first 9 seasons, and tbh I think even maybe like 10-15 are still pretty good. I remember the movie being pretty decent. I don't know when it went really off the rails but this clip is like death throes level.
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Julie Kavner is an angel and I hope she wrings every last dollar she can from Disney for this zombie show until she dies.
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Simpsons then: I call the big one bitey
Simpsons now:
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I named the neighborhood possums Bitey and Scratchy for this reason
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marge's voice is like 80% of why i can't watch new simpsons. it's show ruiningly bad. why the frick have that not replaced her? she can't do the voice. get someone who can.
like it's so bad it MAKES ME ANGRY.
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it sounds like her mom from the early seasons
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right!
it'd be one thing if they aged. like if this was marge's voice at 80. fine. i could wrap my head around it, even if i'd still hate it. BUT THIS IS A MID 30S MARGE. FIRE THIS B-WORD. SHE CAN'T DO THE VOICE.
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They should make any new simpsons episodes be nursing home drama with no teaser or explanation
Homer has diabetes and his mission is to sneak past the staff and aquire forbidden snacks and the whole thing goes in a Wiley Coyote direction
It's revealed that Marge had them put there to save him from himself, because his memory got worse and he can't remember he already had his cookies
"Mmm cookies..."
Bart's son is a nightmare, so Bart uses the generous nursing home visits as a daycare, which becomes a Rick and Morty parody, as Homer and his grandson go on bizzare adventures in search of sugar
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Legit new Simpsons (Bart, Lisa adult, Homer, Marge elder) would have been an interesting twist and a way better show.
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Name ONE sequel to a long running animated comedy show that used aged up versions of the kids from the previous series that did even remotely well (first thing that comes to mind is All Grown Up but I'm sure there's more, didn't they do this to Fairly Oddparents too?)
People don't want new characters. They want what they're used to forever.
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Pebbles and Bam Bam?
Even if that's accurate (I don't know) it reinforces your point that it has to be a show from the 60s.
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They also have Marge bits in every single show too
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have you been watching the new ones? part of simpsons internet insists that some of the most recent seasons have been the best simpsons since the good ol' days but every time i try to watch an episode i get IRATIONALLY ANGRY at her voice and just can't do it.
i did watch one of the most recent treehouse of horrors bits though and it was fricking crazy. like 80s slasher movie brutal and gory. it felt so out of character for simpsons. lolllll
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Yes I've watched a lot of the last 3 new seasons, what's going on is they finally started to give up on being cheap Simpsons imitation combined with joke every 5 second formula they cling to for a decade to doing more experimental shows where jokes aren't centered every scene, director given freedom, and sometimes more plot driven.
It still has tons of really low lows but occasionally has wins, where wins is above average like a 7. So I just only watch ones with decent reviews
The Lizzo episode last season made me extremely cringed out and then didn't watch for a while but might again.
I just watch King of the Hill reruns
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maybe i'll try to dig up a handful of new episodes to give a shot.
old simpsons is maybe my favorite and most watched thing ever. i have the first 10 seasons of the simpsons on my phone and every day i pop on a random episode to listen to/half watch while i do something. like brush my teeth or eat a burger from the local burger joint or fold laundry. if i had a waterproof phone i'd probably do it while i showered, too. i'm such a fricking simpsons mark and having it in my pocket 24 hours a day has made me incapable of doing stuff without it playing. lolllll
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This guy explained it well
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i've had that video saved on my 'watch later' list since pretty much the day it uploaded and still haven't watched it
along with the wrasslin' video he did this year which basically the entire wrasslin' community says is a MUST WATCH VIDEO
maybe i should finally watch one or both of them
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Favourite Simpsons episode:
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Ironically...it came from a post-golden era episode!
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it's a season 10 holdover so it just barely makes the cut imo
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I use Principal and Pauper as the "threshold" of Classic and Modern Simpsons because that's what many fans say is when the decline started, so
The power of the sneed truly is reality-bending...
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funnily enough that one is also a holdover https://simpsonswiki.com/wiki/Rollover_episodes#List_of_rollover_episodes
seasons 9 and 10 are tolerable but I would say "Homer's Enemy" in Season 8 was the start of the decline after Grimey lampshades everything that's silly about the Simpsons universe, like where do you even go from there
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That was actually one of my favorite episodes, even though I know Simpsons Mega-autists don't like it
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It's a funny episode in a vacuum but the complaints about it are valid when taken in the broader context of the series. If it wasn't the widely accepted canary in the Simpsons coal mine, it would probably not be so hated.
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I always thought the 'jockeys are secretly elves' episode was the big canary. At least for me. 'Homer's Enemy' is funnier, but very mean-spirited, because it's implicitly attacking the audience who enjoys the show for enjoying it.
Just realised that would make Frank Grimes a representation of a wokescold complaining about the unreality of the show and how it's problematic. Except he's in the show and actually working class, not just LARPing.
And then, of course, they turned Homer into a malicious, chaos-driven, ODD butthole, proving Grimesy right.
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Fun fact: It's Ricky Gervais' favourite episode.
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Sneed's Sneed & Sneed formerly Sneed's
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The worst was when they decided every episode needed a celebrity guest. The writing went way downhill to shoehorn them in.
Just compare how the plot of Tennis the Menace develops compared to Bart of Darkness.
Bart of Darkness: There's a heat wave. A mobile pool arrives and the neighborhood kids spend all day enjoying a good swim. Once the pool leaves, Bart and Lisa annoy their parents into buying their own pool. It's a believable and natural way to end with a pool in their backyard.
Tennis the Menace: Grampa is in a talent competition when he suffers a heart attack. He survives but the family prices out burial plots. When informed the mausoleum would cost as much as a tennis court, Homer decides to buy a tennis court.
It's such a clumsy way to develop the story. It could've just as easily been a basketball court, a set of Go-Karts, another pool, or a gigantic bounce house. This episode could've progressed to Homer spending all month in a giant bouncehouse just by changing two words in the first act. It could've been a Speed Racer parody with the kids gokarting. Heck, it could've become an Air Bud parody when they discover Santa's Little Helper can shoot basketballs.
But instead he said "Tennis court" because somebody promised Venus and Serena a guest appearance.
The talent show, heart attack, and burial plans? Not addressed in the slightest after the first commercial break. Not even a lazy handwave of "grampa clutches his chest at the end of the episode". The heat wave in Bart of Darkness continued because it was part of the plot -- it's the reason so many kids are coming over daily.
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One of the last “new” episodes I remember watching featured Lisa trying to undo her unpopularity by making a school blog anonymously that writes positive things about her self and then Bart exposes Lisa's doing it, so everyone thinks she's a try hard loser again and then...... Lady Gaga has psychic visions that Lisa needs help. So Gaga shows up to Springfield to teach her to love herself or something, and they perform a song.
It's was very bizarre, overwrought, and why is a magic Lady Gaga needed to help Lisa? I remember an old 90s episode where Lisa gets a substitute teacher who is the first person to encourage her intelligence and creativity, and then when he leaves she runs out the class crying asking him to stay and he gives her a note saying, "You are Lisa Simpson" to always help her believe in herself when she feels she's got no support. One of them actually feels rooted in something a gifted child from a family that doesn't know how to support her and is stuck in an underfunded school might actually go through. The other is just feels like a celeb vehicle.
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I noticed a very specific episode around season 20 where the animation and writing changed dramatically. Not just "switched to digital animation" but the pacing changed. It was a specific scene in the 4th grade classroom and included Nelson harming MiltonMartin in an unusually harsh way.
Then there's dogshit animation like this. It's cartoonish even by cartoon standards with babbys first fluid container. I've seen better animation on Newgrounds
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They always did this tho?
Each episode starts out seeming to be about a certain premise but then it pivots into a completely different story.
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Favorite scene in the Simpsons
Its become unwatchable since they got a new voice actor for Flanders, Carl, and Dr. Hibbert. Really it was over when we lost Phil Hartmon
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Honestly I don't really
have a favourite. Lately I like the soccer 
persiflage a lot:
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THIS MATCH WILL DETERMINE ONCE AND FOR ALL WHICH NATION IS THE GREATEST
ON EARTH
MEXICO OR PORTUGAL
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What an era.
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"I bring you love!"
"He brings us love. Let's kill him!"
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Andy Peepee deserves death simply for what his actions caused tp happen to the Simpsons
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And Newsradio.
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Disagree. I really didn't care for that episode for some reason, even as a teenager. It was the beginning of my enjadening
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