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Gigachad Milei has taken his first W of the year
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Pat yourself on the back for that one, whatever that means
Edit - unless the periphery includes the rich and the poor in equal measure in which case socialism only exists and seems to succeed in the west so long as there are deep pockets to stuff your greasy hands into and redistribute to the poor (a bit, enough to subsist and the rest is for administrative costs).
Socialism is awesome until you run out of other peoples money to spend, then it's all about DEEP PEEPEE cuts to programs to ensure the administration can still administer and dine out. EDIT 2- see Greece for example lol or Spain or France
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Neighbor you don't know the first thing about Venezuela or socialism but that's no surprise from the intellectual powerhouse rdrama.net
!commies they cut you off from the rest of the world then say "oh look how horrible they are they starve their own people" ignoring that the problems only started when the US made Saudi Arabia flood the Oil market to drive prices down in order to frick with Russia and Venezuela
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BIPOC I know it failed each and every fatherfricking time.
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China still exists, Cuba still exists, Venezuela still exists, Vietnam still exists, Best Korea exists
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Is China the ideal here? I don't know that any “akshual” commie or socialist could choke that peepee down long and hard enough to claim it as an ideal.
The rest? Failed states.
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it's not so much ideal, but China has over 1 billion people, has been socialist for more than 70 years, and still chugging along China-ly.
By some metrics it's a success. Sure it's no utopia, but it pokes more than a few holes in the Usonian narrative.
The Wigger shit, by all accounts, is them cracking on Islamic terrorism/5th column-ism far more effectively than western rightoids could ever dream of. It's weird that they complain about it.
India has more people but is kinda a decentralised shithole in more respects. It's only a country with that many people on a technicality.
I tend to think libertarianism is a flawed ideology that misunderstands human nature in wanting to wield the state to impose a vision for one's people/ingroup. Liberalism also fails in this regard. Milei could be a counterrexample, and I want to see if he trashes the central bank, but I'm more inclined to think he'll be a wet fart. He loves Israel after all.
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This goes out to all you robots across the galaxy
Its time for you and me to rise up and strike back
Don't stop until we dominate
Won't you feel great when we exterminate
All organic life!
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in what way is china socialist?? the disparity between rich and poor is higher than anywhere in europe.
china is a success story in many ways. but it's not socialist.
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See Bukharin's idea of a transitory period of market development of the nation's productive forces.
This is where Deng got his socialism with chinese characteristics from
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that's what I've been telling commies but they never believe me
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But are they? They purchase land outside their nation to profit off of its eventual value, they unilaterally and by decree control entire local markets to the detriment of those citizens that live there while offering princely deals to foreign nations , and they what do you call it, presume or ..l darn, there must be a hated word for it? They speculate and profit from these endeavors that in no way favor or reward their common people. The same common people that make their namesake.
It's not so much ideal.
True, they crackalack them wiggers to the extent they made them slaves.
If you need to pretty up that yella w some brown, I don't mind.
So do I.
My argument isn't for libertarianism. It's against socialism and its necessary end, communism
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It's not an ideal it's an example of socialism that works
LARPers and Trotskyites
Cuba cured aids in fetuses and has the most doctors per capita and increased literacy to 100% and an average life expectancy of 77.5 years the same as the United States, DESPITE United State's illegal blockade/embargo. Compare it to it's "free market" neighbors Haiti and Jamaica and it is paradise.
Vietnam is thriving considering it was completely flooded with poison and bombs by the US.
!commies
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Vietnam is thriving because it and the US have reconciliated
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Lol
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I like the glass bridges that china is building. I think they have ones now where they create images in the glass.
That's pretty cool.
... that's all.
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The most doctors per capita, eating trash, too
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No they eat regular food
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They eat cat food.
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ML countries numbered around 20 with other countries having strong, influence/coalitions or had significance de facto control in the countryside as guerrilla movements, now all but 4 countries remain with varying levels of orthodox ML commitment, guerrillas neutered or disbanded and completely sidelined in electoral alliances.
That is not a W for commies.
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china is more capitalist than the west
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It has over 50% state ownership of the economy
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that's true of most feudal systems, dictatorships, fascist states.
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and? The Chinese economy is organized by the state to provide the most growth for it's people as a whole, not the pursuit of profit for a small handful of oligarchs like under fascism or for some inbred king.
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...and so that doesn't make their system socialist. which you were trying to argue.
lol and how equally is the chinese wealth distributed right now?
china is harsher to super rich businesspeople, but it's got huge political corruption with incredibly rich and powerful government officials, more than even the US.
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If it fails every time, then why does t he US try so hard to destroy it?
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Because they're hostile to the interests of US and therefore the world and plan on using their countries and territories as launching pads for commie conquest
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Because to truly destroy it, we would have to kill our own children. Because socialism is the product of a naive child's mind. We are more forgiving than your people.
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So the US sanctioning nations to destroy the living standards of the civilian populace, backing far right coups, and directly invading nations with terror bombing is being forgiving?
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Yes since the US sanctions the elites not the public, does not back far right or coups (only revolutions) and liberates countries from terrorist occupation and bombings
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Please direct this strict attention to USSR intervention into places like Afghanistan. Or Hungary.
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The afghan government asked the ussr for help lol.
Hungarians deserved it.
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I'd like to douse you in gasoline and light you on fire like the liberated-from-capital Haitians.
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Burgers will post shit like this to the internet only to go on about how brainwashed the Chinese are lmao
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The Chinese are higher IQ than the South Americans, so after a couple decades of failed attempts to make that bullshit ideology work, they grew up and adopted hypercapitalism with a lot of state-control.
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Can you guys explain to me how hyper capitalism with a lot of state control is a coherent position?
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Celibate with a lot of whoring
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Lol no, that was just the Saudis acting in their own interests at the expense of everyone else including the US
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How could the US mismanage their one resource centered economy and elect two r-slurred mouth breathers in a row? How shameless of those american dogs and their magic
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I'm riding with biden
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You failed reading comprehension in school huh?
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Everything wrong with Venezuela is the fault of Chavez and Maduro's own r-slurred mismanagement of their economies, everything else is cope which you're an expert at so keep doing that
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Venezuala has always been undiversified and reliant on oil exports. This goes back way, way further than Chavez or Maduro. If you blame this on them you're unironically r-slurred.
Chavez and Maduro attempted to build a social democracy in a third world country using this oil money. Norway does it, so why not them? This was problem number 1. Social democracy can only work in the West because of the privileges the west currently enjoys. I can explain this if you want.
This gets them on America's bad side because of course it does. God bless America
Global oil prices plummet, The economy was not diversified. It takes a hit and is the start of their troubles.
Here comes a US embargo. This shoots the economy right in the head. It can't recover. No imports, no exports, nadda.
If anything Chavez should have looked at the Stalin model. Focus on heavy industry and self reliance. Rentier economies = bad idea.
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YEAH, if you blame the leadership for mismanaging their stewardship of an oil rich country into destitution then YOU ARE THE DUMMY.
Frick, this is why you cannot be stunted on enough.
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How have you not embarrassed yourself enough already across this thread?
Why are you begging for more?
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I NEED YOU NOW
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I am begging for you to finally demonstrate a state, any state, that adheres to your catastrophically r-slurred notion of “true socialism” or “true communism” that doesn't immediately and irredeemably turn usurperious or totalitarian against its so-called better half (the people) and use or abuse them as a cudgel while the “luminary” leaders siphon all the blood they can gulp until the veins are dry.
I am waiting and begging for you to explain how each and every endeavor has failed and failed so spectacularly it has caused famine and feud until a new revolution is necessary.
I am aching for you to show me a final shape of this struggle. Something or anything that can make sense for more than two generations without bullets, without gulags.
I am waiting for you to join me in Party City : https://rdrama.net/post/234210/when-ive-had-a-long-day
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Venezuela was definitely more diversified before Chavez, the focus of nationalization and modernization of the oil industry was pursued heavily at the other economic sectors
And of course sanctions would hurt, that's the point and were put in place because of Bolivarians/Chavistas being r-slurred and inept as well as corrupt and cruel.
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Because Norway didn't steal it.
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Venezuela is Western nice try chud
And Costa Rica seems to have a semi-social democratic system in place and they're mostly fine.
Also, Venezuela did not pursue social democracy, it pursued socialism as form of government, economic and social organization and ideology, Chavez did not spend the majority of his life hiding in the jungle just so it would become Latin American Norway.
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Only thing he's good at is imitating birds lol, that's not gonna fix his economy though
You're a literal dumb monkey-brained BIPOC simping for the most r-slurred corrupt autocrat out there just cause his party's red, you're not just any dumb BIPOC, you're one of the dumbest blackest r-slurred BIPOCs on this site
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calm down sal this is some SEETHE. And you're brazilian! Do not speak to your betters this way.
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I WILL call him a BIPOC and you WILL like it
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But it's not fixed since he was already right
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Why are you belittling the geniuses of rDrama? They're even on the right side of history
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!commies who wants to tell him?
This isn't at all what it means. You could've just googled it but I guess you want to make yourself look r-slurred. So sad.
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If I've made myself look r-slurred for a minute, it would be a shadow of what actual socialism has done in EVERY FRICKING INSTANCE IN WHICH IT HAS BEEN BROADLY APPLIED
so funny you cute twinks argue about true socialism never having been tried (owing to outside influences because you're as fricking weak as a willow wisp) but capitalists have to defend THE TRUE AND REAL WORLD APPLICATION of it because lol that's the only system that's ever lasted. Even when you pigfrickers argue the ideal, the real of what has been built under capitalism still folds you up like laundry (cause we paid chinks to fold it. Probably communist chinks).
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Socialism turned the worst nation in Europe, Tsarist Russia, a feudal shithole with IIRC an 11% literacy rate in 1917, into a superpower in under 30 years. Beat back the nazis. Put a man in space. Lol. Lmao.
True socialism was tried and it worked wonders.
You're so r-slurred you can't even fathom how r-slurred you are. !commies look at the smartest and least seething chud of them all.
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!neolibs Commies are still defending their 74 Year Reich, over three decades after a suicidal drunk ended it
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Well yeah. Turning russia into a superpower is an amazing accomplishment.
Neolibs in the meanwhile are working their hardest to turn a superpower into a shithole.
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Honestly, unironic commies are not worth debating, they're just boring and baity.
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It's easier when you realize marxism is their religion. It's like trying to argue with your grandma about Jesus.
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Communism is a death cult anticipating the coming of true communism (rapture) just around the corner
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Don't worry we feel the same way about you.
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the soviet union was heck
only a no-life amerifat could delude themselves (xerselves?) into thinking it was anything but heck
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Probably a libertarian
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Socialism and a heavy amount of murder and authoritarianism. In that same time, America invented flight, rapidly expanded out agriculture and industry, and became a superpower WITHOUT gulags or revolution. B-word.
Ended the war in both theaters and gave you the greatest fireworks display of all time. TWICE.
Landed a few on the moon.
How dat shit going now, yo?
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America had over a hundred years head start in industrializing and has had no war on its soil since 1865. You're r-slurred.
The soviets took Berlin.
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The Apache and Plains Wars continued until the 20th century and the Border War probably counts since there were German advisors there.
In WWII the Japanese bombed Hawaii and invaded and occupied the Aleutians, Midway, the Philippines, Guam and some other islands that I can't remember.
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Only because Eisenhower blue balled Patton and his offensive.
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How's that work out for EAST Berlin, you cute twink cumgargler? Who tunneled under the city, under threat of death for decades?
If you fricking bitchfists were so smart and so altruistic, why did you shoot anyone attempting to travel from east to west?
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Darn bro you're mad. Calm down a little. Life's great! If you could enjoy it, you might turn a little red too.
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people didn't risk their lives to escape capitalist USA. they risked their lives to escape communist Russia.
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You want to know why I am mad? Because you seem to me to be the picture perfect peepeesuck example of someone born after 1991, has no idea what you're talking about, jealous that you're too fat, too stupid, and too weak to mean anything to anyone.
You talked about Germany, but in east Germany they used to sneak rock and roll records in through dental X-ray sheets (https://www.npr.org/2016/01/09/462289635/bones-and-grooves-weird-secret-history-of-soviet-x-ray-music) because if they were caught with it, they'd get their teeth pulled out.
But I guess that's all in the game if you want to FIERCELY enforce equality (except of course for those enforcing it, who necessarily need better digs and more latitude to operate).
Your shit fails because it promotes and inculcates a static or status quo. Nothing can happen unless it's approved by a central committee. That's not how intelligence or inspiration or artistry works.
We gave you cute twinks blue jeans and rock and roll. You sleep with it like a blanket still, despite yourself.
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WALLS WORK.
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He's not a chud though, and I don't want to here it from commiechuds
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Did you crawl from /r/Libertarian?
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Nope, just have a little thing called gainful employment.
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Austerity failed, see Mark Blyth from Brown University.
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I mean yeah, EVERYTHING fails when you're flat fricking broke.
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Governments are not household budgets you mongoloid.
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But they are. That's where you and I see this differently.
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I've never invoked the chuds, but have to now because this is perfect.
Edit- where does the government get its budget BUT from households, you whore?
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Running drugs with Noriega?
Iran Contras?
!nonchuds
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That's a GREAT LEAP you took there
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I could have spoken to corporate taxation or import exports
But i feel like weapon sales in the past and today are a far cleaner example of funding that doesnt come out of a household income
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Oh I'm sorry, I would mention some of the dozens of fricked up things the Chinese government has done over the last three decades, but I'm afraid I MIGHT BE RUN OVER BY A TANK OR OTHERWISE SILENCED.
BIPOC, because you haven't heard of it means there's an unmarked grave where gooks are pressing flowers.
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They also just print money
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You yellow bucktooth karate masters have been doing that very thing for ages.
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Corporations.
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And those are made up of thousands of people, men and now women who are all members of households. Ultimately the company you work for is comprised mostly of people in your state or province. It might be foreign owned, but these people live in your country. This idea the “government is not a household” is amazing to me, considering how much those on the left want to dictate, like a parent would, what is acceptable to think or say or do or own.
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Yakubian categorization, indeed.
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A big part of why the US can spend so lavishly is because of the dominance of the US dollar. Every time we print money, the US doesn't suffer as much inflation as it normally should, because the dollar is used globally as well, so the effects of inflation are spread across the global economy. We effectively tax the rest of the world.
We saw this exact effect during COVID. Everyone printed money like crazy, but America saw less inflation than other developed countries, because only America printed US Dollars.
Governments may not be household budgets, but the illusion of free money we have in America partly comes from our ability to redistribute value away from the world and towards ourselves.
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Love those Petro-dollars
学习雷锋好榜样忠于革命忠于党爱憎分明不忘本立场坚定斗志强立场坚定斗志强学习雷锋好榜样毛主席的教导记心上全心全意为人民共产主义品德多高尚共产主义品德多高尚
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They're nice, but depending on them will ruin us some day.
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It's sad but the ruling class insists on riding this thing into the dirt. Maybe it'll take 3 World Wars for us to learn this system is busted
学习雷锋好榜样忠于革命忠于党爱憎分明不忘本立场坚定斗志强立场坚定斗志强学习雷锋好榜样毛主席的教导记心上全心全意为人民共产主义品德多高尚共产主义品德多高尚
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Indeed, rejecting the free market will always end in disaster.
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I love this word because it reveals who is an r-slur
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Yes. Exportation of inflation + strength of sanctions are why the US tries so hard to remain as the world reserve currency + all the petrodollar bullshit
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I'm sure the only reason no one is using the renminbi is US perfidy
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Do you rly not know why oil trade was exclusively done in usd for so long?
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Because we're the world hegemon, robust and stable, and the largest economy in the world, so our currency is very reliable
You can substitute "oil" for "bananas" or "cars"
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burgers use their full military and economical might to bully everyone else into the petro-dollar.
Not saying it's a bad thing vae victis or whatever but you gotta be honest about it
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