https://old.reddit.com/r/AskLosAngeles/comments/18rmo5x/is_there_a_way_to_stop_los_angeles_electricity/?sort=controversial
Didn't see any drama threads about this. Governor Newsom signed a bill that would raise utility bills for Californians based on income.
Under $28,000 income — $24 per month
$28,000 to $69,000 income — $34 per month
$69,000 to $180,000 income –$73 per month
Over $180,000 income — $128 per month
This is on top of current utility rates.
Commiefornia Redditors in the thread explain they're happy to pay the increases while others are screaming for the heads of PG&E execs (and a few for the legislators who actually passed this lol)
Solar users are irate that they are also going to be charged regardless
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https://old.reddit.com/r/bayarea/comments/1algswt/the_pge_sucks_megathread/?sort=controversial
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It's kinda funny how the government still wants its due even if you go out of the way to set up solar or collect rainwater or whatever. Oh you switched to an electric vehicle? Now you have to pay this tax because you're no longer paying taxes on gasoline.
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Not strange at all unless you go completely off grid (and maybe even then). The system costs are all still there and people expect to use power when they need to, effectively making solar users into an economically regressive form of parasites under the current system.
Lot of people are in for a rude awakening in the coming decade or two.
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Yes. Powers to be are actually afraid every household will go to solar. And then grid blows up on cloudy days.
But they dont have solution to this. Energy bills are going up. Solar panels are getting better and better and cheeper. And becouse they are lying sacks of shit. They cant say it like it is.
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Of course there are solutions, just change the pricing scheme.
The point is that home solar isn't a viable solution (at scale) if people want grid access at the same time to compensate for their intermittent power.
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That would fall under saying it like it is.
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Pump-storage hydro is pretty cool. Shame that the same treehuggers who push solar also categorically oppose creation of hydro that would make this practical.
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Pump storage hydro is completely unviable except in places where there already is natural hydro, and even then it's horribly inefficient.
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I believe it's fairly efficient sir. Turbines are quite good at what they do.
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Tree hugger
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Did they ever get that big australian project running
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Khancoban, New South Wales
I saw parts of the snowy hydro project earlier this year at Kosciusko. Some parts are operational, and have been for a while. The new parts are still being completed but I couldnt get close to those to take pics
The above pic is the Murray 1 station which has ten 95mw generators. Water from this flows to another power station, then back to the river at the bottom of the mountain
i don't think it makes as much as eraring, which is a coal plant that makes a large % of the states power. Hydro is pretty cool and actually renewable but this is literally the only place on the continent where it can work
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Hydro is very effective but can obviously only exist where there's water going downhill from a high altitude
Solar and wind is a meme for shit eating green cucks who can't wait to pay execs millions in subsidies from their own wallets
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Offshore wind is goated and bullshit """environmental""" laws are the only reason picrel isn't giving everyone free energy
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chink garbage which has a service life of less than 20 years. Just gonna end up in a landfill. So renewable.
The above hydro station has been operating since the 1960s and won't be stopping any time soon.
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Same with nuke plants, last of which were made in the 80s except for that new Finnish one.
I think the subject of power generation more than anything else reveals the malicious ideological capture and depravity in western states. The people in charge could have fixed the human impact on the climate 20 years ago if they wanted to by building nuclear energy and hydro plants 30 years ago. Either they don't actually want to, or climate change isn't affected by human activity. Those are the only two options.
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If only there was a way we could store excess power that we generate. Oh well maybe in a few hundred years we'll come up with that kind of technology.
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Storing massive amounts of energy is actually very expensive. We currently do not have a good solution that would make solar a viable large scale energy source
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Using tons of sand as massive heat sinks apparently has some potential, at least for heating
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Yeah, retvrn to mud huts.
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Maybe if the batteries didn't involve hazardous chemicals and require replacement every 10 years
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Another way in which hydro is superior. Shame you need water for it.
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If only we could engineer the water out of hydro
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!r-slurs that's called wind power
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You can't be flippant all you want, it's probably one of the biggest hurdles we will face.
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Eh? They're still a shit investment. They're like city recycling programs: counter-productive but they make you feel good.
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Nah theyre pretty good. Uncle got a bunch and after paying almost a grand in bills a month eternally cooling his home with A/C in every single room, he cut down to lile $100 after getting solar. 90% discount for nonstop usage. Shits good.
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Who the frick had 1k a month ac bills?
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My uncle did. He said he never turned them off, including central for the living room, individual room acs for each room (5 of them), ac in his art studio downstairs and his wifes arts and crafts 1 room building... dude basically never wanted his internal temperature to drop when at home. Super wasteful but hey when you're a richstrag you can do a lot kf wasteful shit
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I'll put it this way, the amount of solar panels you'd need to generate 1k a month of electricity is a lot more than 1k a month.
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I personally dont know or care tbh, its just what he told us. Still, as I said before, dude is a radiologist richstrag. He spent a quarter million just on landscaping alone (tbf its amazing just chilling in his front yard jungle). I dont know how he rationalizes expenses outside of "lol can pay it off anyway" or if they even make sense. His water bill is also massive just to keep that jungle forest alive.
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Californiacels with 5k sqft homes
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Radiologist who wants to live with a perfectly regulated body temperature
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Jesus Christ you're actually r-slurred.
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I remember seeing discussions of the fact that we're hitting an inflection point for many people where just running a diesel generator to power your home is cheaper than using the grid. But of course California is pushing to make this illegal.
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lots of installers add battery backups for solar installation nowdays, and battery tech is also getting exponentially cheaper. In a decade or two everything will be solar + battery which is no problem in socal.
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hmokay
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I bought a car that weights twice as much, why do you want me to pay more for road maintenance
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If u wanna drive a tractor trailer to work that's up to u bb
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Passenger vehicles are practically nil in that equation unless you haul trailers in an F450 Super Duty or some shit.
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I still want the women driving luxury SUVs to suffer.
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You and me both, brother.
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At least in my state as long as the vehicle is considered a light duty vehicle, which duallys and such are too, then licensing cost is just an equation based off of the value of the vehicle and doesn't really even care about the difference between a 2800 lbs civic and a 9000 lbs diesel dually.
Semi licensing is the expensive one. I pay 5k a year for my semi + trailers in licensing.
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The electric hummer weighs 5 tons
and goes 0-60 in 3 seconds
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Hit the gym tons-of-fun
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Gasoline tax makes sense because it's used to pay for roads, which electric vehicles also use.
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Hobbes will always be right
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Wait what the frick this is a surcharge on top of what utilities are charging? Motherlovers
PGE is absolutely killing it. A couple years ago the CEO posted to reddit sharing his massive watch collection. From the wrong account. Right after asking the government to pay for their losses due to some fires that wiped out entire cities and killed people. Because they aren't taking care of their lines (which is something consumers pay for).
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PGE seems to be spicy company. I just googled PGE and reddit. Thats some south africa shit
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California is the weirdest state. It's not South Africa level yet but it's trying real hard to be the Western analogue.
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Its not south africa yet. But complaints are somehting you would hear about south africa.
Costs exploding. Untold damage caused by company and goverment just bails them out. Horible state sanctioned monopoly. Corruption.
One guy was complaining how he went EV becouse gas was so expensive and now cost is basically same.
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And it seems to be a product of commiefornia commie policies. Which is hilarious, that even an incredibly watered-down and cucked attempt at soycialism immediately reproduces the same dysfunctions and negative effects that the real ( >
muh not real gommunisim) cumminist countries collapsed from.
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California is all about setting bed for private companies to make as much proffit as possible. Then institute social programs to pamper minorities or act like nanny state
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It's not just one guy. PGE is raping electric vehicle and solar owners. It's absolutely outrageous. The state is dumping extra costs onto electric vehicle owners after incentivizing them. It goes on and on. The PGE tiers are ridiculous. Just because you have an electric vehicle you have to pay higher rates even if you charge in the evening. Executives are still killing it with bonuses though because why wouldn't you reward them for getting the State to pay for them burning down and blowing up cities? If you're bored look up the Paradise fire or San Bruno explosion.
In response to public backlash regarding them asking for the State to allow them to increase rates to pay for the civil suits they implemented brown and blackouts during high temperature and high wind advisories. Which the threshold was what they determined. Brilliant way to show people how cautious and reformed they are.
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I like how it has the stranglehold on the only fairweather ports yet is consistently the worst state for truck drivers.
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A lot of owner operators around me won't even truck into California because their trucks can't meet emissions lol.
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Yeah they got super strict laws a 55 mph speed limit statewide (which is a huge paycut to otrcels) no a/c in 100 degree temperatures a few counties have banned sleeping entirely
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Yeah I always heard from them that the money isn't there to be worth going into CA regardless and they'll make more just staying in the Midwest and Great Lakes.
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It's beyond whatever you could imagine. Look up "San Bruno PGE." Frickers literally blew up a neighborhood.
From wikipedia:
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Based. Eat shit hard-working Americans
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Share his watch
collection 
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I'm trying to find the post. Someone with autism could find it before me (probably) but I'm trying.
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!commenters
https://old.reddit.com/r/Watches/comments/slp8xz/sotc_my_current_2022_collection_i_think_im_good/?sort=controversial
Here it is. He's active, too.
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Lol we need a whole post about this guy and also post this on the california subs for maximum seething
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I don't think I have it in me to effortpost about PG&E and why this was such a faux pas or funny post at a terrible time. Maybe in two weeks. It's certainly worth an effortpost. Nothing makes redditors or norcal seethe in unison like PG&E does. Cross-party and cross-ideology hate.
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He appears to be black
Maybe reportmaxxing opportunity for racism from the redditors harassing him?
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This watch was on your Daddy's wrist when he was shot down over Hanoi. He was captured and put in a Vietnamese prison camp. Now he knew if the gooks ever saw the watch it'd be confiscated. The way your Daddy looked at it, that watch was your birthright. And he'd be darned if any slopeheads were gonna put their greasy yella hands on his boy's birthright. So he hid it in the one place he knew he could hide somethin'. His butt. Five long years, he wore this watch up his butt. Then when he died of dysentery, he gave me the watch.
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Holy shit actually sigma male activity lmao
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fr this whole thread is VERY anti-progressive
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Yeah that always helps
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Maybe they should start campus protests on a different contenent.
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California is somehow the most r-slurred successful place in the world where everyday feels like they are succeeding in spite of being themselves but somehow everything works out the more r-slurred they get.
California is a case study in how none of us actually know how things work because common sense dictates that California should have crashed and burned 30 years ago yet somehow it didn't.
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Crashed? Not yet.
Burned? They're actively working on it.
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And yet their economy is still growing at a faster rate than whatever shit hole you happen to live in despite already being more developed. Yet major insurance companies don't offer new policies on property anymore. Truly an enigma.
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It's the only place in the English speaking world where you have year-round perfect weather. That's the secret. Rich and important people will take a pay cut to never even be aware snow exists or that you can have months of dreary rain.
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Yup. Has a “great” climate, which honestly is too fricking hot imho or overcast ( unless you're in the Bay Area, Tahoe, or San Diego.) I actually hate CA weather everywhere else outside of those spots, which are just about perfect compared to pretty much the entire rest of the world. But the rest is still great for agriculture and the entertainment industry. And politicians can take advantage of it by passing the worst legislation possible, decade after decade.
I will say they're only outmatched by Illinois and New Jersey at this point in terms of mind boggling stupid moves, with Washington a close second.
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!chuds amazing commiefornia
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