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“Rejection sensitivity dysphoria” AKA are we just going to pathologize every single negative human experience now?

Not really drama so much as a term I heard recently when a girl said she had RSD. Having never encountered this word, I looked it up and seems like it's a term used to describe feeling extremely bad when rejected, except of course now it has a “diagnosis” type sounding label, and people with adhd say it's different for them, it's a disorder.

A picture from /r/adhdwomen for your edification:

https://old.reddit.com/r/adhdwomen/comments/1c0ms2h/rsd_signs/?sort=controversial

Or course Redditors apply it to themselves like a girl scout collecting badges:

https://old.reddit.com/r/ADHD/comments/192a5d6/just_learned_about_rejection_sensitive_dysphoria/?sort=controversial

https://old.reddit.com/r/ADHD/comments/131ni64/rejection_sensitivity_is_the_worst/?sort=controversial

https://old.reddit.com/r/ADHD/comments/1b82hos/how_do_you_all_deal_with_rsd_rejection/?sort=controversial

The funny thing is that a good way to frick with overly sensitive self-diagnosers is to deny RSD exists.

Edit: ithe D stands for dysphoria, not disorder lol

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It's funny how many disorders are characterised by being either lazy or a kitty

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Being a lazy kitty is the way these dysfunctions manifest :marseyagree: they're symptoms and we're starting to understand why things are the way they are

Don't gotta use that understanding to be sympathetic or easy on them tho lol

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>they're symptoms and we're starting to understand why things are the way they are

It's because women vote. Surely you know this grue.

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Nah it's because we cured polio

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This but unironically

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Things should be harder for weak or struggling people, not easier.

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Weakness is contextual and relative imo

Placing people in the position of best marginal value is gonna take our humanity away one day, but it's hard to argue against it being the most effective way to organize people

But since I don't want to be a bug… yeah. We should challenge people on their weakness.

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I just want to kick people while they're down :marseyshrug:

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Grue these disorders aren't actually real. Take schizoid personality disorder. It's defined as “keeps to himself” or alternatively “very friendly”.

It has nothing to do with schizophrenia. It's just made up.

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Abigail Shrier has been doing the rounds for her new book "Bad Therapy" where she talks about how modern day therapy is ruining children pathologizing normal human experiences and making kids think bad experiences are traumatizing and insurmountable. They are making kids neurotic and afraid of experiencing normal negative emotions. They aren't building resilience and instead have dumb-dumb counselors, teachers, and parents (all well-meaning, but the road to heck..) who make them focus and ruminate on the bad and it makes them fricked up.

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Yeah, I haven't read the book yet, but I have listened to a couple interviews with her. She makes some good points. I know it annoys smaller children in my family when I tell them to solve a problem themselves or toughen up. They're used to having adults problem solve as a default, and are rarely told to manage their emotions independently either. That can only lead to anxious adults.

They're fully capable of self-regulating though. Once they get over being mad you won't tell them the ‘right' way to solve an issue, or let them avoid a task because of negative feelings, they get to work and do fine.

But at the same time, kids still need to know that—even if you expect them to tough certain things out and try and fail—that you'll always be there to catch them when the big stuff goes south. And that they can talk about feelings with you—just not dwell on them. I'm not sure Shrier stresses that part enough. I think she probably undervalues short term therapy for specific issues, like a divorce, as well.

I also think her conclusions are more class based than she realizes. I'm sure the upper and upper middle classes are as besotted with therapy as she says—but everyone else? Nah.

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that you'll always be there to catch them when the big stuff goes south. And that they can talk about feelings with you—just not dwell on them. I'm not sure Shrier stresses that part enough.

I saw a few of her interviews and thought she placed enough importance on parents being in charge and letting their kids know that instead of treating kids like tiny adults.

I also think her conclusions are more class based than she realizes. I'm sure the upper and upper middle classes are as besotted with therapy as she says—but everyone else? Nah.

100%

But at the same time, I think this stuff starts with affluent people who have time on their hands to make themselves neurotic and then it trickles down to the average and poorer Americans in r-slurred ways. Telling minorities and women they are perpetual victims and doomed isn't helping things

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PlsRope

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None of these people internalised the message of Inside Out and it shows.

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We really need a karl pooper of medicine.

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I imagine an individual with RSD's worse fear being an "akiosexual"

https://mogai.fandom.com/wiki/Akiosexual

Akiosexual (also called akionesexual and lithsexual) refers to a person who experiences sexual attraction, but has their feelings fade if reciprocated. Akiosexual can also be defined as someone who doesn't care or want their feelings reciprocated. Lithsexual isn't commonly used due to concerns of appropriation of lesbian culture.

the crazy bitches even have a flag, lmao

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17144900055652807.webp

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Akiosexual (also called akionesexual and lithsexual) refers to a person who experiences sexual attraction, but has their feelings fade if reciprocated

Grouchomarxsexual

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Akiosexual can also be defined as someone who doesn't care or want their feelings reciprocated.

Isn't that just being a :malefeminist:

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:marseyworried:

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a person who experiences sexual attraction, but has their feelings fade if reciprocated

So basically straight women

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Are you having a common experience that humanity universally regards as unpleasant? No! You have experience dysphoria disorder. You must:

  • make it your entire personality

  • allow it to ruin relationships and friendships

  • take expensive medication that doesn't help but makes you feel terrible in other ways

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This is more an issue with how we TREAT these labels, rather than giving it a label at all. I wanna know why so many people are useless :marseyreading:

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Exactly these mentalities didn't manifest out of nowhere, but wy are they so debilitating now?

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Obv knowing mental health drives you insane because it was invented by Lovecraft but gayer

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:#marseyxd:

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Because they aren't actually debilitating in the true sense of the word.

we see these people as useless cute twinks because we have to deal with their neuroticisms and demands on society.

On the other hand… they're satisfied. They're still eating, being housed and finding leisure. They find community in the likeminded and revel in tearing down dissenters.


:#marseyastronaut:

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but enough about rdrama

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Tag yourself; I'm a cute twink


:#marseyastronaut:

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I'm useless. :marseyfluffy:

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Too much freedom and western degeneracy.

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It's a characteristic, not an etiology.

Giving it a new label provides no explanatory power.

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True, but some labels that these labels strip away/replace specifically avoid explanation. It's like we're giving ourselves permission to ask questions.

It's all very dumb. Labels are dumb. But we need them to think how we do, because human are r-slurs.

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i avoid rejection by never putting myself in a position to be rejected

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Valid

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I've never been rejected in this position: :mariogoatse:

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Least fragile dramatard :marseydramautist:


:!marseybooba:

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Letting foids into the fields of psychiatry and psychology was such a mistake.

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I feel like this is a disorder you can get over by just experiencing it a few times.

:#marseysmughips:


:#marseydisintegrate: :!#marseyflamewar::space::!marseyagree:

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So does this make incels inherently RSD-sufferers? :marseyhmm:

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I would gamble incels are excluded from these disorders for some reason.

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This wouldn't be such a problem if we didn't have such a western “treat this at any cost” philosophy towards mental health and not more focus on :marseycope:ing strategies and well-living.

People need to learn to live with themselves, and EVERYONE, even queers, are behind on that.

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Have never known someone with "RSD" who didn't just end up diagnosed with BPD

/r/adhdwomen is another good clue - there's a trend of women getting diagnosed with BPD, realizing the stigma, and then claiming that its just that society demonizes neurodivergence in women and they were misdiagnosed. ADHD, autism, CPTSD, these are the usual ones.

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lol i call my chinchilla enzozo and i love benzos :marseypills:

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:#marseyschizonotes:

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:#marseyagree:

he's called enzo but i like to call him enzozo

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Whoa, I also get sad when I get dumped. I should get diagnosed.

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There's no objective category of "mentally ill" we can cleanly separate from human behaviour. At best it's a classification system. But modern mental illness discourse treats them as distinct in a very specific way - once your butthole behaviour is given a fancy word, personal culpability goes out the window and everyone else has a moral obligation to put up with your bullshit. Get rid of this and the whole self-diagnosis schtick would vanish overnight.

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This.

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!ranchers :marseycwc: he's finally vindicated, noviophobia is real

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oh is that what it is

I keep hearing things like "blah blah blah now I think they hate me, my RSD is going wild"

The neurodivergent crowd uses it a lot because sometimes they can't fathom having character flaws, you're either neurotypical smooth sailing or you find more acronyms within yourself

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>neurotypical smooth sailing

So the actual problem these internet neurodivergents have is that they lack a proper theory of mind and can't intuit that other people are coping with their own problems.

:marseyhmm:

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Foids just never learned to cope with rejection, it's pretty darn serious to them

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They think relationships "just happen".

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!incels become !wincels

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thanks for your interest in our ping but we cant accept you at this time

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are you persecuting me for having had my virginity stolen multiple times?

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is your rejection sensitivity dysphoria flaring up

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I have post exercise fatigue disorder so I can't exercise

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I prob have it, chasing foids was always hard for me and whenever I'm job hunting I usually have a self harm episode or two

:#marseydeadinside:

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Everybody is hurt by rejection to some degree if they have normal human feelings. The important thing is if you've learned strategies so the hurt doesn't hold you back.

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See? I am not an incel, I just have Rejection sensitivity dysphoria!

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I think categorization is helpful if it's in pursuit of self-improvement…

I also struggle with “executive function” because I didn't have parents and a lot social norms seem like window-dressing.

But “executive function” is how you get ahead, so it was nice to find ways to target and improve.

I get the feeling that a lot of this pathologization of dysfunction is to excuse the behavior, not treat it :marseyshrug:


:#marseyastronaut:

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I prefer to see them as magic words you can use to get pills

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Oh cool, they gave "being a white woman" a fancy name. :marseyfacepalm:


:!marseybooba:

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Total Psychologist Death

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It's been like this for years and it's the cause of a plurality of societal dysfunction. My girlfriend's sister is a special ed teacher, and every kid who can't behave needs some diagnosis. Also, every kid has an IEP so the teacher has to teach a million different individual ways for each student. We're fricked bros the next generation is going to be illiterate, unable to follow basic societal decorum, and listens to songs like this

This songs kinda good tho

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Yeah, we absolutely will medicalize everything. Interested in something? Autism. Have a lot of energy? ADHD. Too little energy? You're depressed.

Psychology is basically made up imo

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Just because your ignorant butt didn't discover it until today doesn't mean it hasn't been a thing for a while, r-slur. How fricking self important do you need to feel to think that anyone would give a shit about your ignorant braindead takes on a topic you are completely unqualified to talk about? You should suck my butt instead.

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:#marseycut:

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>Please be aware that RSD, or rejection sensitivity dysphoria, is not a syndrome or disorder recognised by any medical authority.

>Rejection sensitivity dysphoria has not been the subject of any credible peer-reviewed scientific research, nor is it listed in the top two psychiatric diagnostic manuals, the DSM or the ICD. It has been propagated solely through blogs and the internet by William Dodson, who coined the term in the context of ADHD. Dodson's explanation of these experiences and claims about how to treat it all warrant healthy skepticism.

:#marseyxd:

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Hey, I saw that you just joined rdrama and a group of people who hate me are trying to smear my name by calling me a date male feminist. I just wanted to let you know that it's not true. If you want all the receipts proving it they're right here.

The TL;DR is that I hooked up with one of the hot girls on rdrama, and since I was twice her age, a lot of the guys here who wanted to bang her got jealous and assumed that the only way I could have managed that was by raping her, even though she herself said both before and afterwards that it was all completely consensual. So now that you're the new hot girl on rdrama, I guess they think that I'm going to somehow seduce you into flying all the way across the country (or some crazy shit like that) to hook up with me and they're trying to talk shit about me to make sure that doesnt happen. I don't understand it either, but I just wanted to let you know that I'm a nice guy and I hope you'll look at the evidence and make up your own mind instead of listening to all the jealous haters.

Anyway, with that little intro out of the way, welcome to rdrama! The culture's a little rough here and you're probably going to get tons of requests to •show boobsU but if you talk to some of the women here first before engaging with all the creepy dudes, they'll give you some good advice to avoid stalkers and predators. Or (If you haven't been scared off by the rumor mill) you're welcome to ask me and I'm happy to help.

Just out of curiosity, how did you find this place?

Snapshots:

https://old.reddit.com/r/ADHD/comments/192a5d6/just_learned_about_rejection_sensitive_dysphoria/?sort=controversial:

https://old.reddit.com/r/ADHD/comments/131ni64/rejection_sensitivity_is_the_worst/?sort=controversial:

https://old.reddit.com/r/ADHD/comments/1b82hos/how_do_you_all_deal_with_rsd_rejection/?sort=controversial:

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