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EFFORTPOST [Effortpost] Old vidya drama - Leaf developer gets in feud with NeoGAF

I'll make this an effort post since I know you zoomies know nothing about the Internet or gaming before 2015.

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Dyack in the middle

Silicon Knights

Silicon Knights was a Canadian developer who made a few decent games, like Legacy of Kain and the Gamecube remake of Metal Gear Solid. They're mainly remembered for the classic Gamecube horror game Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem, which is quite good for its time and is notable for being the only rated-M game ever published directly by Nintendo. They were lead by a guy named Dennis Dyack, a whiny manchild who doomed his company to fail.

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Zoomers: This was considered scary in 2002

To give you an idea of their management, here's an image of games in production, games that were cancelled or abandoned before release are marked in yellow. Note the staggering ratio of unreleased/released games:

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Anyways, Dyack's passion project for decades had always been a game called Too Human, but every effort to make it had been abortive. After the successes of Eternal Darkness and MGS, Dyack decides the Wii doesn't have shiny enough graphics and makes the bold choice to unshackle his company from a lucrative position as a Nintendo third party so he can truly fulfill his vision on the superior XBawx Please Fix Me. Silicon Knights shacks up with Microsoft and Epic Games and produce an E3 demo (zoomers: people used to go to an annual convention for video game trailers) which is received overwhelmingly negatively.

Dyack is NOT HAPPY and goes on the IGN forums to whine about how the critics will regret their words and deeds:

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Unedited clip from Too Human

NeoGAF

Once upon a time there was a gayming website called Gaming Age, with their forum called the Gaming Age Forum (or GAF). Eventually Gaming Age imploded, but the top two jannies (Evillore and Bishoptl) were able to move their community to a new forum, appropriately called NeoGAF. You wouldn't know it these days with GAF being a shambling corpse and its spinoff ResetERA being what it is, but pre-G*merGate GAF was chill and a place where industry figures would show up and sperg out while everyone laughed at them.

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Dennis Dyack makes a bet :marseygambling:

Once such figure was our hero, Dyack. With his new slop getting trashed by GAFfers, he makes a thread to bet on how it'll turn out:

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Right now the man just appears confident in his project. But his next post is a bit more... unhinged, and seems to be setting the bar rather low by making alreay-forgotten games Lair and Haze the standard to beat:

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He then goes for an interview on 1up (Zoomers: Now-defunct gaming journo site) and whined about how people saying mean things online is ruining America and how if the NeoGAF mods don't start respecting Denis Dyack and Too Human he's going to call the Internet Police and shut them down!

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Dyack then does another interview where he declares that not only is NeoGAF the worst forum in the world, but forums in general are evil and this is why the US military no longer uses writing:

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Too Human comes out and scores lower than Haze. In classic GAF fashion the top janny punishes Dyack for losing the bet by writing lots of words and then perma-banning him. Dyack copes by saying g*mers are too stupid to understand his genius.

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By this point the capital-G G*mers are pissed at Dyack in a way that prefigures G*merGate in a way. Seething articles are written speculating that angering the G*mers has resulted in him not just being banned from NeoGAF, but divorced from his wife, kicked out of the house, abandoned by his employees, his car towed, banned from every website ever, banned from the city of Niagara and tossed over the waterfall.

He messed with g*mers. G*mers.

The Saga Ends

Denis Dyack has brought Silicon Knights from one of the more respected devs in the industry to basically a joke. Following the failure of Too Human Dyack blamed the Unreal Engine and Epic Games and made the genius decision to sue them. This didn't go their way and by 2012 they owed Epic millions of dollars, had less than five employees, and were legally obligated to destroy all of their unsold games and source code.

In the meantime they had six more projects (including two sequels for Too Human) which were cancelled before they finally released another game, the absolutely awful X-Men Destiny, which turns out to be their last. In desperation, Dyack crawls back to Nintendo and pitches a sequel to their last hit, Eternal Darkness. NeoGAF insider reveals that Nintendo is agreeable until SK loses the lawsuit against Epic, and they decide they'd rather not fork over $10 million in legal fees so SK can survive, which Dyack denied. Former SK staff reveal that this was the case and part of the reason the X-Men game sucked was because Dyack was taking money given by Activision for that game and instead putting it toward Eternal Darkness II.

Years later Dyack attempts to kickstart his own Eternal Darkness successor and makes $300,000 out of the $700,000 target. He has yet to make another game. The end!

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Dyack, left

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Behold the masterpiece that is Too Human

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:#wolfamogus: NEW MISIA JUST DROPPED: Too Humanmisia :#platyfear: !downvoters DOWNVOTE the anti too humanists to CURE them of too humanmisia :#donkeykongattack:

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It's not a good game :diddykongboombox:

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:#trolldisappointed: !downvoters !g*mers NOBODY THINKS TOO HUMAN IS A BAD GAME NOBODY THINKS TOO HUMAN IS A BAD GAME NOBODY THINKS TOO HUMAN IS A BAD GAME :#trollinsane: :#marsey1984: :#trollinsane:

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:#baronkroolenstein:Nobody thinks about too human :!#baronkroolenstein:

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:#trolldespair:

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The halcyon days where game devs spent their money on hookers and blow. Pretty sure it's what tanked Duke Nukem Forever too

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I've been playing Duke Nukem Forever and I think it's a decent Shitpost adventure. Course I only spent 3 dollars on it.

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I might give it a go tbh. I feel the only reason it tanked was years and years of hype and being released at a time that wasnt receptive to the vibe anymore.

People expected another groundbreaking game but they got a forgettable shooter. I still feel if they released it on the Quake II engine it would have been a classic

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It's a forgettable shooter but I dunno I think that style of early 2010's shooter is nostalgic to me even when it's unpolished

If they made it in the Quake engine then it would've stood out at least

What makes the game at all notable is that it's Duke and the humor is still there. I remember people complaining about misogyny but like that's just the 90's :marseyteehee:

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It's a forgettable shooter but I dunno I think that style of early 2010's shooter is nostalgic to me even when it's unpolished

7th gen has a neverending stream of mostly mid budget shooters with good ideas and mediocre to terrible execution. But at least they were trying, nowadays AAA shooters are awful and indie mostly rides the same trends :marseytabletired2:

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I miss the mid budget game

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BIGGEST TRADGETY IN GAMING TBH, ALONG SIDE ADDING RWBY CHARACTERS TO BLAZ BLU AND SMITE MAKING THOSE GAMES FRICKING UNPLAYABLE BECAUSE THE DUSTCEL IN MY WALLS CRAWL IN MY BUTTHOLE AND MSKR MY INTERNET slow... :marseyrage:

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paladins too

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Yeah, but between the ballooning costs to make games, more saturated market and monetization trends, it was always gonna happen.

Smaller publishers still push them out but big ones don't bother

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It came out right after the whole badass shooter protagonist trope went completely out of style. Unfortunate timing, especially since the game was supposedly almost complete on the Q2 engine but when they saw what Unreal could do they scrapped it again

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its mid

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Shitpost adventure

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Holy shit eternal darkness for N64 was cancelled and was developed for the successor instead? And every "too human" for the 5 or so overcompeting consoles went to gen 7 instead of gen 6?

:#marseyscream:

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The original versions of these games were scrapped when they were practically complete, and they restarted from scratch with each new iteration. Essentially they're just throwing money and work away.

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Not going to explain how the porno screenshots came to be?

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https://www.ign.com/videos/in-the-bed-with-the-pets-robert-bowling

Strangely the Dyak interview is missing. We only have the jpegs to remember this peak of gaming culture.

Here's Cliffy B:

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>they took this from us

:marseysadge#:

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Zoomers will never know r-slurred 2000s gaming culture

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G*mers are a direct successor to pagan warrior culture. The fights may be virtual, but the glory is the same, as seen in that screenshot. This only changed recently after a targeted defamation campaign in women's crusade against honorable men

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Back when IGN wanted to be Maxim/Spiketv

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used to scroll ign's daily hot babes "articles" for those nice 200x300 resolution jpgs early saturday mornings on the family computer b4 everyone was awake :marseyboomer:

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Awake to the pervasive sexism in the industry you mean.

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My budding zoomer brain is just old enough to remember the when the IGN navigation bar had a section called 'babes' that tried to justify itself by pairing the photo galleries with 'interviews' which boiled down to them asking the models if they played video games and them replying 'no' a dozen different ways.

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Cliffy B would be another good subject for a 2000's game dev write up to bring zoomers up to speed on that bygone era. He is a big lolcow too and is still around somewhat.

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Dyack tried to latch onto G*merGate when it started in 2014, but he pussied out and tried to remain neutral while occasionally supporting the movement, which meant that nobody cared about him in the end.

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Is too human any good? :marseyclueless:

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too human

:#dinoyes: dont frickin listen to anti too humanists they're jealous cause they got stuck with god of war or sum shit & xeir mom wouldnt let them get other gaems :#bitchplease: its free on the xbox store too and is backwards compat :#donkeykonghearteyes:

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I fired it up again a couple months ago since the Xbox storefront has it for free. The entire game has aged like milk but it has this weird directional control scheme that is particularly terrible.

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RIP Ryan Davis. Jeff is still a threat.

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I am a 49 year old black man My wife left me 12 years ago and my 2 daughters twerk in the background of DaBaby music videos and my sons a 6 9 piece of shet that can't even do basketball. Instead he spends money on white women on the internet. I am losing money because I got fired from my construction job for having s*x with another builder on site. This is my situation and this is why I am on rdrama.net

Snapshots:

received overwhelmingly negatively:

Once such figure was our hero, Dyack. With his new slop getting trashed by GAFfers, he makes a thread to bet on how it'll turn out::

But his next post is a bit more... unhinged, and seems to be setting the bar rather low by making alreay-forgotten games Lair and Haze the standard to beat::

He then goes for an interview on 1up (Zoomers: Now-defunct gaming journo site) and whined about how people saying mean things online is ruining America and how if the NeoGAF mods don't start respecting Denis Dyack and Too Human he's going to call the Internet Police and shut them down!:

here's a thread about it:

Dyack then does another interview:

scores lower than Haze:

writing lots of words and then perma-banning him:

too stupid to understand his genius:

Seething articles are written:

Nintendo is agreeable until SK loses the lawsuit against Epic, and they decide they'd rather not fork over $10 million in legal fees so SK can survive:

Dyack denied:

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