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!kino. someone ping bookworms and moidmoment as well.
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"Write what you know," they said...
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Many such cases! E.g. Thomas Mann, Lewis Carroll, possibly GRRM and I hope not Vladimir Nabokov (it's possible he was molested by his uncle, besides Lolita preteen/teen s*x appears in at least 3 of his other works but there's nothing to indicate he was a p-do. Maybe being a victim of grooming is why he wrote about it?) !bookworms
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Stephen King and ex-addicts/writers/Mainers
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He got pissed at Kubrick for Jack Torrance's portrayal. According to King, Torrance was supposed to be a good father and an alcoholic fighting his demons. But Kubrick's take was that drunkards want to believe they're "jerks with a heart of gold" while in reality they're just buttholes damaging their families and lying to themselves.
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King was most likely upset because Jack is King (sans the success), Stephen King probably saw that take on Jack as a personal attack on his drunk butt.
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King broke his son's arm in a drunken rage.
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I think that Kubrick rewrote the story to not be about alcoholism, but rather Jack dealing with deeply repressed homosexuality. Jack's internal struggle with being a homosexual when the outside world frowns on it is what causes him to snap. The Overlook Hotel is presented as a refuge where Jack has the freedom to reject society's beliefs. However, he is unable to do so in any healthy way, and so he resorts to violence against the heterosexual norm.
Kubrick, as director, is able to populate the set of the film with tiny thematic elements and props in a way a book cannot. In the little scenes we have outside the hotel, he establishes the overbearing, heterosexual world. Peepee Hallorann's bedroom, for instance, possesses two separate pictures of naked women. In a brief scene at the Snow-Mobile rental shop, we see a man flipping through a pin-up calendar, ogling the models on display. In a world where one should have women on one's mind, to go without one is to be an outcast. Hence, Jack married Wendy to fit in, and they had a son together. This family is the product of a loveless relationship that Jack does not wish to be a part of.
As soon as we arrive at the hotel, things are different. The manager for the hotel is named Ullman, which is pronounced as "All-men", hinting at who the Hotel is for. In a change from the book, instead of being unattractive and rude, he is a handsome gentleman who warmly welcomes Jack. Kubrick also rewrites Bill Watson, his assistant in the interview scene. There's weirdly gay-coded behavior between the two of them, and Jack straight ups says that he's looking for a "change" that the Overlook lifestyle would provide. By the way, while waiting in the hotel lobby, Jack is seen reading a magazine. Surprisingly, this magazine is "Playgirl". Why does the hotel provide this in the open, and why is Jack interested in erotic photographs of men? Because, of course, this hotel is a place where one is free to be gay.
Indeed, there are allusions in the film and book to why Jack left his teaching job. King makes it clear that he was let go because alcoholism was affecting his work. Kubrick is more vague, including only a reference to an "incident" with a male student. Was Jack caught trying to be in a relationship with them?
As mentioned, the set design is up to Kubrick. We are constantly faced with the imagery of identical twins, be it the twin girls, the two elevators, or even the fact that the pivotal room 237 has double doors. Since when does a hotel room have double doors at its entrance? All of these are Kubrick additions. Furthermore, plenty of shots are framed in such a way to show symmetry. Oftentimes, the exact same prop is on both sides of a character's face, especially Jack's. This effect of showing that twining exists in the hotel is designed to let us know one thing. Homosexual orientation, not heterosexual, is the norm here. Two things of the same type belong together and are accepted.
At first Jack tries to keep up the facade of heterosexuality. He tries to care for Wendy and Danny, but over time comes to realize he can't stand them, Wendy in particular. When he freaks out and curses at her for disturbing his writing, he is letting years of frustration out. She's his female ball and chain that the outside world demands he be shackled to. And to have her here, in this place of supposed freedom from the world, is unbearable to him. He wishes her gone unconsciously, as she is the physical presence of the oppression he has felt. Danny, as his son by her, is simply another manifestation of the painful relationship he has had to maintain. He loathes them both.
The memorable Room 237 scene is a two minute summary of Jack's sexual orientation. When Jack goes in to investigate Danny's claim of someone being in there, he comes across a beautiful woman. Nude in a tub, this is a fantasy of a straight man. Wordlessly, she approaches Jack, and he does what society expects him to and embraces her. However, as soon as he sees themselves in the mirror, something changes. She is not beautiful; she is hideous, old, rotten, and grotesque. This is how he feels about women. To him, even the most beautiful of girls is no more attractive to him than this corpse. He accepts this personal truth and flees the room.
We see Jack spending more time in the Gold Lounge, where he is able to interact with men, men who we are led to believe are the spirits of the hotel of the past. In an early conversation with Lloyd, the bartender, he mentions how he can't stand his wife, to which Lloyd answers, "Women, can't live with them; can't live without them." in an almost mocking fashion. In another significant ballroom interaction, a formally dressed waiter spills a tray of drinks on him. These drinks suspiciously resemble semen in color and texture, and the two of them end up in a bathroom to clean it up. Look at this scene. We''re informed that the Overlook has been meticulously maintained in its historic condition. Why does the bathroom not look like a bygone resort, but rather a place that would have been at home in a contemporary gay club? The cleaning is oddly sexual, as we see the waiter gingerly wipe the creamy liquid he has spilled on Jack off. We're voyeurs watching two men clean up after an anonymous hookup. All of this, I must reiterate, is Kubrick's invention.
It's revealed that the waiter is Grady, a former caretaker. In future conversations, he informs Jack about how the women in his life, his wife and daughters, held him back and detested the Overlook. He ultimately had to kill them, and he encourages Jack to do the same. It is not mere happenstance that at one point he literally frees Jack from a closet. He wants Jack to embrace his homosexuality and live the lifestyle that the Overlook represents.
Perhaps the most iconic creation of Kubrick is the "All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy" reveal. This is simply Jack writing out his inner thoughts. He detests the work of being in a heterosexual relationship and wishes to engage in homosexual behavior, which in the real world is often referred to as "play" by the gay community.
There's also the mysterious bear scene, where Wendy encounters a man fellating another man. They are dressed in period-appropriate costumes for the Overlook's parties. Bear is an obvious homosexual reference here. We, the audience, are once again shown the sexual escape that the Overlook allows, namely men to have sexual relationships with men. Wendy freaks out and flees. This is her, and heterosexual society at large, reacting to Jack's orientation.
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Eh i like the "drunks are bad" take more
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Never learn how the sausage is made or in this case used
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Ah, I thought that a r*pe scene was missing from that episode.
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!bookworms thoughts?
Neil Gaiman writes like a capeshit screenwriter anyway
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Sad but predictable. He's been a
forever.
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American Gods was fun but I wouldn't say it was memorable or worth the amount of hype it has received over the years.
Also people who think Sandman was high art are brainlets.
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People who think that unironically probably only watch Marvel slop, Disney Starshit and Star Trek Discovery
By the way !trekkies which one do you find worst? Discovery or Picard?
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Picard is worse for damaging my TNG nostalgia. Also because I never
bothered to watch 
Discovery.
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What giant space orchids that can destroy a borg cube dont do it for you?
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!trekkies might hate me for this take but I genuinely find all of the Borg plotlines and characters to be very tedious
and overwrought in every 90s series. Kes > Seven 
of Nine and they killed 
my girl off just to put some tits on the screen. And the only series 
to handle attempts at serialized plot successfully was DS9.
Since I'm putting my hottest Trek takes out there
I'll also say Voyager was worse than Enterprise. It was humorless and grimdark and had some of the absolute lowpoints of any of the series. The r*pe episode with Seven 
in particular stands out as both a bad political 
position and unrelentingly awkward. If I wanted to watch 
SVU I would 
get some Stabler in my life.
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The Borg storyline peaked with Best of Both Worlds and they spent the next decade chasing that high to diminishing returns.
DS9 did well to avoid the Borg completely because watching Voyager is cringe now with the whole forced spookiness surrounding the memeBorg.
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Kes was definitely better than Seven.
But they needed another non-human character aspiring to understand humanity. TOS had Spock, TNG had Data, and Tuvok had too much Starfleet to play this effectively. Seven was at least an interesting take on this role.
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They could've found
another way to accomplish that 
I wanted more resolution to the telekinetic powers.
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Voyager has its moments. You have to accept that it's going to be really dumb and try to have fun with it. Like reptilian aliens wearing Nazi uniforms. It's not something you can take seriously but it's hilarious.
The Borg stuff in Voyager was just boring to me. Every time you make them more human you make them less intimidating. They're only good when they're treated like a force of nature.
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Compared to most TV I agree, I just consider
it one of the lowest iterations of Trek.
Then shed the grimdark regalia.
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I don't know dude Enterprise was probably just as bad honestly season 1 and 2 of TNG were pretty horrible too. I like discovery as long as you don't put it in the same universe which it clearly isn't. They should have either started in the future or claimed that they captured a craft from the future.
I liked the best of both worlds and the Borg inside of that. That was excellent but honestly their introduction episode prior to was even better they were more mysterious they didn't need anyone.
I would have loved to have seen them as an alien species that simply didn't need people at all
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The lowpoints and coomerism of Enterprise
had at least to me a kinda Starship 
Troopers-esque satirical quality 
to it, which is what I'm ultimately condemning Voyager for lacking entirely throughout its runtime. Forcing the Borg to be a recurring and overarching villain 
definitely soured me on the somewhat more successful earlier iterations of their appearance.
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Enterprise
is so underrated
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Like most Trek it got better
as it went along 
and other than a few really 
bad episodes at the beginning it had a lot of kitsch humor 
I found 
charming in comparison to how serious 
the other 90s series 
ended up being.
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Picard was the death of Trek. Nothing, not even the Rick and Morty Trek can do worse than the bastardization of Picard's character that show committed.
At least I know Trekkies get the last laugh because recent Star Wars is still worse
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It made me wonder just how hard up Patrick Stewart was.
Or maybe he has finally gone senile because how could he allow them to do that to his character?
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IIRC Stewart actually had a big hand in that writing. He wanted Picard to be like that (do NOT quote me on that)
Anyway, !nwahs all know what Stewart's best role was
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It's obviously King Richard in Robin Hood Men in Tights.
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sovl
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Stewart is a terrible captain because he's gullible, ki
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You know what is funny. I actually
like that JJ movie. But std and poocard is worst thing i have ever seen. But i havent seen any disney 
wars.
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Go watch The Acolyte, as many episodes as you can take. It makes Season 1 of Discovery look like In The Pale Moonlight. It took until halfway through the sixth episode for the main character to make a second facial expression.
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No
Jewish lives matter
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I like the JJ movies too. They're entertaining at least.
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Me watching the JJ Trek movies: "This sucks, it misses the whole point of Star Trek. He'd probably make a pretty good Star Wars movie though."
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Thanks for the confession. I am now holding you personally responsible.
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I hated 2nd but 3rd was fun. First
one is really 
fun.
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I saw a couple episodes of STD this year and it actually wasn't bad. Not good, but at least I wasn't cringing all the time. I guess they just needed a few years to figure out how to write for it.
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Impossible to answer. I hated Discovery more, but Picard was worse, but Discovery was wokewashed woman nonsense, but Picard shat all over a great legacy, but Discovery had the terrible Michael Burnham actor, but Picard had that butt-faced android b-word, but Discovery had a fricking mushroom drive, but Picard dressed as a pirate.
Man they're both shit there's nothing to pick between the two.
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Oof this is hard they're both so shit
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I voted Picard because it has so much character assassination
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didn't watch picard slop but unfortunately watched STD and now I have STDs
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At least season 3 of Picard is watchable, if a little heavy-handed with the 'memberberries
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None of it is watchable, you need to be better sweaty
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If I was better I wouldn't be on this website
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Discovery, but only because I still like watching the next generation when I'm sick or can't sleep. Watching Picard would ruin it.
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I do not give a shit about any of his works except for the only good thing in it, that was of course blackwashed into becoming a
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ngl I didn't get so mad at that blackstaining because at least the niggress they cast is quite cute if I recall correctly
A pale asian built for my Brazilian peepee is better of course, but the niggress is serviceable. would definitely have her as a concubine
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I liked sandman and I read American gods. I kept waiting for American gods to get better and it just never did.
Good Omens was awesome though. Pratchett and Gaiman both suck on their own but together put out something great.
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Reddity Pratchet
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Sandman is high art by comic book standards
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yeah sure buddy, why dont you get jerk off to some Joyce with your buddy nuclearshill.
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The show is butt, but the book is darn good and well worth a read
it's a lot less jarring to read 3 lines about gay s*x than to watch a few minutes of it
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Hard agree.
Of course it isn't. All comics are low art. Like Neil Gaiman's Sandman, Art Spiegelman's Maus, Alison Bechdel's Fun Home, Alan Moore's From Heck, Eddie Campbell's Bacchus, and the Hernandez brother's Love & Rockets, are all low art.
Low art is the best.
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Mentioning Maus in with all that garbage is r-slurred
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!bookworms !comicshitters isn't this neighbor a "Jewish Scientologist"?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_Gaiman !nooticers
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Muted your notifications for pinging me on porn again.
@GayRayniumDonGER 
@FreedomforIsrael 
@The10thMan what's the point 
of a gaystapo if there 
are strags running 
around posting 
naked 
women 
pics and you don't target them? 
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BBC is closeted gay
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Factcheck: This claim has been confirmed as correct by experts.
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he's super woke, has a book called trigger warning, and is really proud of being a "tumblr icon", of course he's a male feminist
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My default stance is that if someone irl accuses some random nobody of sexual assault I'll usually believe them. If suddenly a bunch of allegations come out about some famous person it's usually bullshit.
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I really liked sandman, you cute twink snobs.
But this news is delightful because his fans are insufferable and I'm a bad person.
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He was basically cloning alan moore his whole career like grant morrison. In terms of prose writing Jerusalem mogs anything gayman wrote
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Gaiman is somehow worse than Garth Ennis, unfunny edge lord, to me for his writing. I absolutely hated Preacher too
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Ennis is nowhere near as preachy (haha xd) besides some fedora atheism stuff and doesn't knowingly cultivate a massive fanbase of preteens on tumblr, he's been less annoying
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Its weird Moore loves Gaiman but hates Morrison
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When Morrison was coming up he would constantly trash moore in the press and accuse him of plagiarism and other shit. I can see why that would breed contempt when the same guy is also skin walking you. Morrison is also a super heavy team player for dc which i imagine would also breed contempt seeing a dude who skin walks you get the silver corporate platter while the same company screwed you.
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"Oi got skewed ovah by Deecee comacks!" -Moore
"Skill issue" -Grant Morrison
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Neil Gaiman is for people who never have read Dave Sim, Alan Moore, Warren Ellis, or the other Vertigo titles besides Sandman while also only having watched capeshit. "HE'S THE GREATEST WRITER EVA" is said by Reddit atheists worldwide.
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alan moore is overrated garbage
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Tell me a good opinion you have
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alan moore is just edgy shit for cringe teenagers. like the "shocking" scene in extraordinary gentlemen where invisible man's blood is everywhere because hyde butt r*ped him to death, that's like something someone on this site would write
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Looks like he took a lesson from Garth Ennis with all that edgy bullshit he put in Preacher and the Boys
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Alan Moore did some weird shit. I still don't know if I liked or hated From Heck
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Alan Moore is a kook of another variety, the weird occultist anarchist. Thinks that BLM is an organized charity, believes in Crowley, etc. I liked From Heck and I think he wrote some of the best capeshit stories with Watchmen and the Superman oneshot he did
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Dave Sim lol
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I've always wanted to like him because I'm a huge Terry Pratchett fan, but I've only enjoyed Good Omens. Not that I've looked very far - I found Neverwhere very off-putting and never went much further.
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I like his emo characters and settings, but Gaiman just doesn't write real or compelling plots. His stories just feel like set pieces for bits of dialogue.
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Stardust and Coraline are both rather lovely.
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Ocean at the End of the Lane is a pretty great read, albeit a somewhat pensive one if you had a difficult relationship with your dad growing up.
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I'll look into that one thx
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Lies. The Ocean at the End of the Lane was kino
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Have we dropped all pretence now and just gone back to outright religious morality judgements?
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Christ these people really are gong to bring back female guardianship aren't they?
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Something something fight for 25
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So wait, are you supposed to gain powers with every year of age even at 60+? Are these humans or vampires? No wonder she couldn't resist, he had like 40 blood points more than her
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for real a 60 year old is not in a position of power if you didn't want to frick them you could just breathe too quickly and their hip would snap
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21 year olds cant consent to s*x.
12 year olds can consent to life altering medication/surgery.
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I've tried to explain to people that my ex gf technically r*ped me once (I was too drunk, constantly blacking out and trying to push her off so I could get back to grilling chicken in my dream before customers complained) and apparently it doesn't count
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I'm sorry you had to go through that.
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At least I didn't burn the chicken in my dreams
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wagies cant be r*ped
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If we use reddit definitions or r*pe then I've been r*ped dozens of times too
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I thought the problem was the r*pe not the age gap
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The hypocrisy
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