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!kino. someone ping bookworms and moidmoment as well.
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!bookworms thoughts?
Neil Gaiman writes like a capeshit screenwriter anyway
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American Gods was fun but I wouldn't say it was memorable or worth the amount of hype it has received over the years.
Also people who think Sandman was high art are brainlets.
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People who think that unironically probably only watch Marvel slop, Disney Starshit and Star Trek Discovery
By the way !trekkies which one do you find worst? Discovery or Picard?
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Discovery, but only because I still like watching the next generation when I'm sick or can't sleep. Watching Picard would ruin it.
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Picard is worse for damaging my TNG nostalgia. Also because I never bothered to watch Discovery.
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What giant space orchids that can destroy a borg cube dont do it for you?
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!trekkies might hate me for this take but I genuinely find all of the Borg plotlines and characters to be very tedious and overwrought in every 90s series. Kes > Seven of Nine and they killed my girl off just to put some tits on the screen. And the only series to handle attempts at serialized plot successfully was DS9.
Since I'm putting my hottest Trek takes out there I'll also say Voyager was worse than Enterprise. It was humorless and grimdark and had some of the absolute lowpoints of any of the series. The r*pe episode with Seven in particular stands out as both a bad political position and unrelentingly awkward. If I wanted to watch SVU I would get some Stabler in my life.
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The Borg storyline peaked with Best of Both Worlds and they spent the next decade chasing that high to diminishing returns.
DS9 did well to avoid the Borg completely because watching Voyager is cringe now with the whole forced spookiness surrounding the memeBorg.
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Kes was definitely better than Seven.
But they needed another non-human character aspiring to understand humanity. TOS had Spock, TNG had Data, and Tuvok had too much Starfleet to play this effectively. Seven was at least an interesting take on this role.
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They could've found another way to accomplish that I wanted more resolution to the telekinetic powers.
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Voyager has its moments. You have to accept that it's going to be really dumb and try to have fun with it. Like reptilian aliens wearing Nazi uniforms. It's not something you can take seriously but it's hilarious.
The Borg stuff in Voyager was just boring to me. Every time you make them more human you make them less intimidating. They're only good when they're treated like a force of nature.
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Compared to most TV I agree, I just consider it one of the lowest iterations of Trek.
Then shed the grimdark regalia.
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I don't know dude Enterprise was probably just as bad honestly season 1 and 2 of TNG were pretty horrible too. I like discovery as long as you don't put it in the same universe which it clearly isn't. They should have either started in the future or claimed that they captured a craft from the future.
I liked the best of both worlds and the Borg inside of that. That was excellent but honestly their introduction episode prior to was even better they were more mysterious they didn't need anyone.
I would have loved to have seen them as an alien species that simply didn't need people at all
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The lowpoints and coomerism of Enterprise had at least to me a kinda Starship Troopers-esque satirical quality to it, which is what I'm ultimately condemning Voyager for lacking entirely throughout its runtime. Forcing the Borg to be a recurring and overarching villain definitely soured me on the somewhat more successful earlier iterations of their appearance.
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Enterprise is so underrated
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Like most Trek it got better as it went along and other than a few really bad episodes at the beginning it had a lot of kitsch humor I found charming in comparison to how serious the other 90s series ended up being.
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Picard was the death of Trek. Nothing, not even the Rick and Morty Trek can do worse than the bastardization of Picard's character that show committed.
At least I know Trekkies get the last laugh because recent Star Wars is still worse
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It made me wonder just how hard up Patrick Stewart was.
Or maybe he has finally gone senile because how could he allow them to do that to his character?
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IIRC Stewart actually had a big hand in that writing. He wanted Picard to be like that (do NOT quote me on that)
Anyway, !nwahs all know what Stewart's best role was
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It's obviously King Richard in Robin Hood Men in Tights.
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sovl
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Stewart is a terrible captain because he's gullible, ki
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You know what is funny. I actually like that JJ movie. But std and poocard is worst thing i have ever seen. But i havent seen any disney wars.
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Go watch The Acolyte, as many episodes as you can take. It makes Season 1 of Discovery look like In The Pale Moonlight. It took until halfway through the sixth episode for the main character to make a second facial expression.
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No
Jewish lives matter
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I like the JJ movies too. They're entertaining at least.
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Me watching the JJ Trek movies: "This sucks, it misses the whole point of Star Trek. He'd probably make a pretty good Star Wars movie though."
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Thanks for the confession. I am now holding you personally responsible.
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I hated 2nd but 3rd was fun. First one is really fun.
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I saw a couple episodes of STD this year and it actually wasn't bad. Not good, but at least I wasn't cringing all the time. I guess they just needed a few years to figure out how to write for it.
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Impossible to answer. I hated Discovery more, but Picard was worse, but Discovery was wokewashed woman nonsense, but Picard shat all over a great legacy, but Discovery had the terrible Michael Burnham actor, but Picard had that butt-faced android b-word, but Discovery had a fricking mushroom drive, but Picard dressed as a pirate.
Man they're both shit there's nothing to pick between the two.
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Oof this is hard they're both so shit
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I voted Picard because it has so much character assassination
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didn't watch picard slop but unfortunately watched STD and now I have STDs
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At least season 3 of Picard is watchable, if a little heavy-handed with the 'memberberries
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None of it is watchable, you need to be better sweaty
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If I was better I wouldn't be on this website
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I do not give a shit about any of his works except for the only good thing in it, that was of course blackwashed into becoming a :
!coomers
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ngl I didn't get so mad at that blackstaining because at least the niggress they cast is quite cute if I recall correctly
A pale asian built for my Brazilian peepee is better of course, but the niggress is serviceable. would definitely have her as a concubine
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I liked sandman and I read American gods. I kept waiting for American gods to get better and it just never did.
Good Omens was awesome though. Pratchett and Gaiman both suck on their own but together put out something great.
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Reddity Pratchet
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Sandman is high art by comic book standards
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yeah sure buddy, why dont you get jerk off to some Joyce with your buddy nuclearshill.
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The show is butt, but the book is darn good and well worth a read it's a lot less jarring to read 3 lines about gay s*x than to watch a few minutes of it
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Hard agree.
Of course it isn't. All comics are low art. Like Neil Gaiman's Sandman, Art Spiegelman's Maus, Alison Bechdel's Fun Home, Alan Moore's From Heck, Eddie Campbell's Bacchus, and the Hernandez brother's Love & Rockets, are all low art.
Low art is the best.
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Mentioning Maus in with all that garbage is r-slurred
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Sad but predictable. He's been a forever.
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!bookworms !comicshitters isn't this neighbor a "Jewish Scientologist"?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_Gaiman !nooticers
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Muted your notifications for pinging me on porn again. @GayRayniumDonGER @FreedomforIsrael @The10thMan what's the point of a gaystapo if there are strags running around posting naked women pics and you don't target them?
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BBC is closeted gay
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Factcheck: This claim has been confirmed as correct by experts.
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fine I will put it in a separate cockment
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he's super woke, has a book called trigger warning, and is really proud of being a "tumblr icon", of course he's a male feminist
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My default stance is that if someone irl accuses some random nobody of sexual assault I'll usually believe them. If suddenly a bunch of allegations come out about some famous person it's usually bullshit.
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I really liked sandman, you cute twink snobs.
But this news is delightful because his fans are insufferable and I'm a bad person.
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He was basically cloning alan moore his whole career like grant morrison. In terms of prose writing Jerusalem mogs anything gayman wrote
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Gaiman is somehow worse than Garth Ennis, unfunny edge lord, to me for his writing. I absolutely hated Preacher too
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Ennis is nowhere near as preachy (haha xd) besides some fedora atheism stuff and doesn't knowingly cultivate a massive fanbase of preteens on tumblr, he's been less annoying
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Its weird Moore loves Gaiman but hates Morrison
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When Morrison was coming up he would constantly trash moore in the press and accuse him of plagiarism and other shit. I can see why that would breed contempt when the same guy is also skin walking you. Morrison is also a super heavy team player for dc which i imagine would also breed contempt seeing a dude who skin walks you get the silver corporate platter while the same company screwed you.
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"Oi got skewed ovah by Deecee comacks!" -Moore
"Skill issue" -Grant Morrison
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Neil Gaiman is for people who never have read Dave Sim, Alan Moore, Warren Ellis, or the other Vertigo titles besides Sandman while also only having watched capeshit. "HE'S THE GREATEST WRITER EVA" is said by Reddit atheists worldwide.
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alan moore is overrated garbage
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Tell me a good opinion you have
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alan moore is just edgy shit for cringe teenagers. like the "shocking" scene in extraordinary gentlemen where invisible man's blood is everywhere because hyde butt r*ped him to death, that's like something someone on this site would write
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Looks like he took a lesson from Garth Ennis with all that edgy bullshit he put in Preacher and the Boys
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Alan Moore did some weird shit. I still don't know if I liked or hated From Heck
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Alan Moore is a kook of another variety, the weird occultist anarchist. Thinks that BLM is an organized charity, believes in Crowley, etc. I liked From Heck and I think he wrote some of the best capeshit stories with Watchmen and the Superman oneshot he did
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Dave Sim lol
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I've always wanted to like him because I'm a huge Terry Pratchett fan, but I've only enjoyed Good Omens. Not that I've looked very far - I found Neverwhere very off-putting and never went much further.
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I like his emo characters and settings, but Gaiman just doesn't write real or compelling plots. His stories just feel like set pieces for bits of dialogue.
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Stardust and Coraline are both rather lovely.
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Ocean at the End of the Lane is a pretty great read, albeit a somewhat pensive one if you had a difficult relationship with your dad growing up.
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I'll look into that one thx
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Lies. The Ocean at the End of the Lane was kino
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