https://www.koin.com/news/oregon/portland-general-electric-pge-smart-thermostat-adjustment-07082024/
This normally wouldn't be worth a thread, but I am having finely aged crow for breakfast:
!nonchuds I am never taking your side again.
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Yawn
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200,000 opted in and now can't opt out without paying a buttload of money
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Lmao paranoid schizochads win again
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Common
win
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Shame on you carp for spreading misinformation.
My $7.56 per month is gone!!! My precious $7.56 forever taken from me!
Again more misinformation from carp, who gets very upset and bans anyone who spreads misinformation about him.
!teaparty, look at fishboy. He's being a big gay cute twink janny.
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It is worth $7.65 a day to not have my house 85 degree inside
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Source?
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Give them a call negro
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"hello, all operators are busy right now, please stay on the line your call is very mportant to us"
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"Please hang up and try again in 72 hours. Did you know total cell phone usage nationwide accounts for 82 kiloPPU of carbon fartprints per year, more than 6 cars? This call will now disconnect. Thank you for choosing PGE."
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It says they have to pay back the discount for opting in. The horror
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https://www.cpuc.ca.gov/industries-and-topics/electrical-energy/demand-side-management/energy-efficiency/idsm
It isnt even schizo, this is californias stated plan for handling their shitshow of a system. Want storage? State
gets access. Bought an ev? State 
tells you when and how youll charge. New home? Mandated demand side controls.
And with all the fancy
monitoring and smart 
apps, the state 
can track your compliance constantly 
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What is a side control?
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R-slurred way of handling energy. Rather than let the producers and energy market handling pricing, try to artificially control the energy flow once it gets to the end user.
In theory its attractive for optimizing your own energy use. The state and power companies will only use it as a cudgel to force compliance for their own frickups. Ie turning off your ac because they want to charge you more for your energy
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"demand-side"
Similar to "client-side" versus "server-side" in computing
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Smart
homecels stay losing. Dumb home chads stay winning.
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Burgers making fun of Europeans for not having thermostats
Also burgers:
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These are coastcels, not Americans
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Yuros cannot comprehend the difference between having the option to sell something you own vs. never possessing it to begin with.
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Ohhhh the drama with PGE goes far deeper than this.
They proposed a 17% increase that started in Jan and it turns out it was an average increase and peak hours was actually raised by almost 30%. This started during our major icestorm and everyone woke up to 700 dollar bills just because they ran their heat during one of the worst winter storms in our history. PGE told everyone to not run their heat.
Now theyre proposing another big increase and doing stupid shit like this. The movement to make them a public utility is growing and will come to a head in the next couple of years.
Their ceo makes millions a year btw and gave themselves a huge pay bump in Jan while they were fricking all of us.
It's fun to watch!
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!commenters TEA TIME
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This is starting to happen all over and will happen throughout the country unless power companies get slapped hard. Imagine waking up to your local supplier saying "tee hee youll pay 30% more for your bill, sorry"
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This is why suburbanites have luxury fireplaces LMAO
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Why would you run the heat at night? Do you not own blankets?
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I keep my house the temperature I want because I'm not poor
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Only a poor thinks not saving money is a flex.
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This is opt in. Didn't googlecels or somebody else get forced into it in California last year?
It was Colorado, and it was fine print opt in with full lock out
https://nbcmontana.com/news/nation-world/company-locks-customers-from-changing-smart-thermostats-due-to-energy-emergency
But California has been doing opt in for a while
https://laist.com/news/kpcc-archive/thousands-give-up-control-of-home-thermostats-duri
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Srry bro you might own the hardware but not the software
Yes you did buy the hardware (which you own) but we own and control the software
Should've abided to the TnAs we stealthily changed 1minth after you bought the software
What you don't want a Google engineer to enter your house?
Access withdrawn over the pettiest shit. No refunds.
Your representative voted and supports this. Though shit.
America land of the freecorporations and their wage slaves
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Ban AC in private homes. It's a complete waste
of energy 
in western 
countries.
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Those homes aren't built with passive cooling in mind
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One can cope with up to 40°C easily. It doesn't get that hot in the western
countries.
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Are you confusing Alaska with the continental US
We get heat for 4 months a year that would melt the europoor and cold for another 4 months that would freeze them solid
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Ye half the Euro population would die in a week if they had to live in Arizona during the summer
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Is stopping thermal bridging and proper air-sealing envelopes a foreign concept to you lower 48 cels🤔
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Wrong
Trapped heat bb
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We're going to have a full weak of 40 degrees weather here
But I agree that too many weaklings turn on the AC at absurd temperatures 
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I've found myself using it for anything 30+ nowadays. In my defense I usually run it for an hour then keep it off for one.
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wut
it gets over 40C in illinois a few times per year and we're a northern state
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STFU europoid it probably never gets hotter than 30C where youre at. Come stay in the southwestern US for a summer without AC.
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No.
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And that's a GOOD thing
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Yea trillionaires can't ride on their million dollar yachts conscience free if a AC runs somewhere in Texas
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Sign up for your smart pacemaker today
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R U I N E D.
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Imagine being so badass that your drug addiction and depraved lifestyle are able to affect international affairs on a global scale.
!slots333
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Smartest person Joey knows.
He isn't (male) Senior Presidential advisor for nothing, eh @pizzaJill?
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No his real life's work was to make Redditors seethe at the mention of his name in perpetuity. His legacy lives on.
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LMAO CORPO SLAVES IN THE FREEDOM COUNTRY
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Americans love sucking cooperate peepee, they tip Amazon
and elect Republicans.
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There is literally no tip option in the Amazon app
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Not on all products. The seller can choose
to display 
the option.
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