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But, wellโ€ฆ look. Back when he started mocking Bitcoin, one Bitcoin cost around $6. Now, it costs $50,000.

This isn't just stupid, it's painfully stupid. You're an idiot, but worst of all, you don't believe it's important that you can't understand why writing this makes you an idiot. After all, it's just a fact that bitcoin is worth money.

Second, you said something somewhere that made me realize you've got a problem: you don't understand just how many more fascists, white supremacists, and racists are and were present in Scott Alexander's spaces. This was one of the weirdest things I experienced, just how normal the SFBA Rationalist Cult seemed to think the racists were.

So you've got an entire article which establishes that Girard has a bias about the reactionary presence in the SFBA Rationalist Cult. But you don't even notice just how many white supremacists, fascists, and racists you've interacted with. It's more than most online people, dude! You're familiar with them! You are a walking counterexample! You were at a conference with Richard Hanania and yes that's guilt by association because it's only in your dipshit SFBA Rationalist Cult brain that 'guilt by association' is foul play!

You give them a platform, you give them a voice, and you try and pretend that Scott Alexander didn't platform Curtis Yarvin, didn't attempt to package NeoRX talking points for a more moderate audience but ended in just making his place a gathering point for pseudoscientific racism!

If you had an editor who could point you to your biases, maybe you wouldn't essentially just be documenting the person who did a lot to document the racism of your tribe. Too bad!

Girard may have deserved to be banned from editing Wikipedia but you can't even understand Sandifer's work, it's too upper level for your cultist brain. So you just look like an ignorant chump.

After all, I am not a Reliable Source.

You really aren't, and you've lost the respect I had for you. This was a bad piece. You do no reflecting on the difficulty of truth-telling in an online era. The parts of it which are good are parts which prove you're being irrational about your place in all of this (CULTIST DEFENDING THE CULT AGAINST AN AGGRESSOR, sorry but that's the darn truth). The parts of it which are bad are related to your cult's failures.

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>yes that's guilt by association because it's only in your dipshit SFBA Rationalist Cult brain that 'guilt by association' is foul play!

I think you're guilty of also being r-slurred because you're associating with @TracingWoodgrains. That's how it works, right?

!metashit does that pan out?


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I've thought about this a lot, and my conclusion was: I got banned from the SFBA Rationalist Cult centers lmao

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Something :marseysmugface: something :marseysmugface: one nazi at the dinner :marseyturkeyhappy: table :marseywould:


:!marseybarrel: :marseybarreldrunk:

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I can't explain the reasons but I can confirm he is deeply r-slurred.

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You're also an idiot.

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Certifiably.


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Moral of the story:

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That's the extent of your response?

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there's this thing where you at once want to call me a blind idiot who's constantly losing any respect you had for me, and then also for me to treat you as a serious and piercing critic who has meaningful things to say in response

but some cards lose their efficacy the more frequently you play them, and you

you can call the whole bitcoin thing stupid if you'd like, but let's be clear: if Gerard had been saying "Bitcoin will be wildly successful price-wise, but I won't buy it on principle because it's immoral," there would be nothing to smirk at there. he didn't. he's been convinced it will collapse and that every drop is the beginning of the end since it was 1/1000 the price it is now. I don't care a speck about crypto but if someone makes bad predictions about something and then doubles down, that deserves to be noted

& yeah I'm familiar with the online racists etc who get attracted to those spheres, and I spend time and energy pointing out why and how they're bad and wrong for these things, and then log in and see people like you kick and scream and whine as soon as I point out that there are liars and scoundrels and scumbags in your camp, because it's No Fair to spend an article pointing out scummy behavior from someone who's been trying to have his cake and eat it too for a decade

you were never going to like this article, because you hate the bay area rationalist subculture more than almost anyone I know, and it's an article correctly excoriating one of its most ferocious critics, because its most ferocious critics have systematically chosen immoral approaches to their criticism

I am every bit as much a critic of the motte and effective altruism and many of these points as someone like Gerard is, but bc I don't act like a scumbag while I do it many of them still like and respect me and I have potential to improve things in that broad culture.

so yes, :marseycope: is and will remain the most useful response to your article. Gerard and co behave in scummy ways and you as a persistent critic of rationalist culture are incapable of sitting back and saying "yeah actually that's a lot of scummy behavior that should be criticized" and so instead you come around and whine that I'm Not Living Up To Your Hopes And Dreams For Me

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But that other comment has all that I really want to say. Let's look at you.

I don't care a speck about crypto but if someone makes bad predictions about something and then doubles down, that deserves to be noted

Someone was wrong on the Internet, and TracingWoodgrains holds a grudge. Dispensing justice: you're just running a hitpiece. That's fine but the bitcoin is a weak hit. But I already knew you wouldn't understand why.

and I spend time and energy pointing out why and how they're bad and wrong for these things,

You have never recognized that Trumpism/MAGA is fascism. A movement based on xenophobia, jingoism, lies, and glorifying violence while assaulting the very notion of truth itself. You were easy prey for the fascist movement because of your skepticism of journ*lism, but when you pick up the pen you go after... David Girard? Because he hurt your tribe's feelings.

you hate the bay area rationalist subculture more than almost anyone I know

Oh Trace honey sweetie I'm worse than this. I don't even afford them hatred. I have contempt for them. I am indifferent to them.

They're just a big fricking target that's presently wrong about the fascism. My only real move is convincing Scott Alexander to drop his shitty Trump impersonation and pay attention to the civil war that's developing because THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS NOW FASCIST: IT HAS ENDORSED A NARRATIVE OF 'ALTERNATIVE FACTS.'

So I'm playing cold but you're playing aggrieved.

I don't act like a scumbag while I do it many of them still like and respect me and I have potential to improve things in that broad culture.

So 1) you're a scumbag. This is a scumbag article. It's not well written, you aren't clean, you provide a little bit of melancholic reflection on what you share with Girard which is some of the better parts of it, but you're now a muckraker, this is what muckraking is, you just can't do this kind of work and stay 'excellent' or whatever it is you're trying to approach, and 2) so improve that broad culture already instead of turning your lens on a critic who is safely ensconced in their sneerclub.

I don't know if you remember but I think sneerclub is pathetic ex-rationalist cult deprogramming. I don't respect them. I also think that they're right about the weak idiocy of the SFBA Rationalist Cult and I'd rather have Sneerclub than your twitter followers, indulged, as they are, in the denial of the fascist movement on US soil.

"yeah actually that's a lot of scummy behavior that should be criticized"

Yeah well like I said I think Girard deserved to be kicked out of Wikipedia and Sneerclubbers who stay there find their faces get stuck that way.

But at least the community I moderated wasn't the one that platformed fascists during a fascist resurgence. At least Girard can correctly identify the enemies of our civilization: the people who would have us burn down our cathedrals and instate a reality tv star as king over us all.

How's /r/theschism going?

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>wall of text about rats

>I promise I'm indifferent! I'm indifferent, guys!

it's absolutely a hit piece, as things go, but those can be done with honor. My Bryan Johnson article is similar. I worked to be fair, thorough, and honest throughout my article. Yes, it's a negative article written about someone I'm not fond of; it's a story that demanded to be told and I was the one equipped to tell it. If someone is a live player actively working to harm the reputations of others, as both Bryan Johnson and Gerard were/are, it is wholly appropriate to write with intent to examine and counter their attempts at information control.

The stories I write are stories nobody else will write. I have gone through, for example, the backstory of a furry beach punch, the history of /r/antiwork, a breakup between a rich tech dude and his ex-fiancee, a feud within effective altruism, the FAA hiring scandal, and now this. This is the one I personally was closest to, but each follows the same pattern of taking a close, serious look at a story I was uniquely positioned to address well. I dive into obscure niches and pull the value I find out of them, and nobody at all pays attention to me (or should pay attention to me) for overviews of the biggest news of any given day.

I do recall your impression of Sneerclub--but you say you think Gerard deserved to be kicked out of Wikipedia, which he hasn't been, and you condemn my efforts to bring light to his approach.

/r/theschism is going very well, though it's quiet as always. It's a thoughtful place full of people I respect having reflective discussions. I remain, as ever, very fond of it.

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wall of text about rats

You're a terrible listener, you know. Don't confuse knowledge with caring. I care about stopping fascism. Knowledge about rats is just a toxic byproduct of that crusade.

What pisses me off about you is you play these weak gotchas without really understanding me. And I guess you don't have to understand me, so long as you admit you'd rather be smug and shitty.

I don't tell you these things because I'm desperate to avoid being seen as someone obsessed with rats you know, because if I cared about that I would stop writing about rats. It's just a price I pay?

t is wholly appropriate to write with intent to examine and counter their attempts at information control.

As a draft, it's suitable. You just really need an editor. It doesn't have to be me! But you got fricking shitty and arrogant once you had a few ten thousand twitter followers. Your essay needed polish. It wasn't very good. Even here people that weren't me are saying this. I never attacked your right to write this, only the fact that you wrote this essay and not a much better one.

ou say you think Gerard deserved to be kicked out of Wikipedia, which he hasn't been,

Whatever, topic banned for Scott? Is that what the hammer came down on him for? I don't have your grudge against Gerard, I don't care about him, and if you were capable of acknowledging his successful hits on the SFBA Rationalist Cult you might have my interest in his unfair manipulation. But sorry giving material to Sandifer and then citing Sandifer isn't something that bothers me overmuch because I lived Scott Alexander's neoreactionary beige and I'm just happy someone told the truth about him and his merry band of political idiots.

I would happily count myself one of his merry band of political idiots if he could just acknowledge the fascism.

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Needing an editor, I buy completely. As for getting obnoxious and arrogant -- I try not to, but I've certainly lost my temper with you a couple of times. I don't think that particularly changed before versus after I became well-known. You have a lot to say to me, sometimes quite harsh, and I try to return directness for directness.

As for understanding -- you're fascinated in a trainwreck sort of way by Scott Alexander and the rationalists, and you are more focused than anyone I know on the idea that Trumpism is a fascist movement that all must stop. That's -- not that difficult to understand, really.

If you define "successful hits" as damaging reputation, then yes, Gerard had successful hits on the rationalists. The way he accomplished them was overtly dishonorable in a way that should be understood and countered. As for a grudge against him, I'll freely cop to that; if someone was eager to look for ways to damage your reputation in public I don't imagine you'd be terribly keen on them either. Gerard picked a fight with me; I provided the context people needed to understand that fight and in doing so forestalled -- or at least substantially changed the nature of -- future threats in that regard. I was not, and am not, interested in him landing successful hits on me.

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Good job bobby, here's a star

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That's better. I always assumed you brushed off the insults. Certainly you know better than most why they're necessary.

Or do you?

You have never really understood me, you know. And I don't have hopes or dreams for you. Maybe the only thing you are to me now is the moderator who saw it all happen.

See I don't have nearly the grudge against the SFBA Rationalist Cult as you might think. Resentment? Sure.

But ultimately they are and have always been a means to an end for me.

Moderates don't want to believe in fascism. Fascism is one of those corrupting forces. I didn't understand just how... different the fascism would be this time. I think there is something to this notion that nothing happens the same way twice, that fascism of the 1930s isn't the same as fascism of 2016.

And in 2016... I knew the moderates wouldn't want to believe.

So I picked a moderate political hole and I pointed to the fascist signs as they ahappened. I pointed to the fascists as they came out of the woodgrains. You never really understood what it meant for me to understand that Scott Alexander invited them in, did you?

He said: I want to grow my audience. Neoreactionaries are an audience. Stupid, stupid, stupid.

So you were there, Trace, when discourse failed. The goal of the fascists wasn't just to air their vile viewpoints, though they did do that.

They also spread ambiguity. Put a little bit of spin on it, just question some straightforward narrative.

The SFBA Rationalist Cult was always full of easy marks: that's how they got into a cult. Far from being a good place to make sure moderates saw the fascism, it became an anthropological exhibit, a living breathing testament to the stupidity of intellect.

And the goal is just to get the non-fascists doing the nazi disco dance party moves. Trump calls for Russian assistance on national TV? It was a joke.

Trump openly admires authoritarian despots? It's just playing diplomacy.

Trump threatens to lock up his political opponents? He's just joking. But shouldn't he lock up criminals?

Trump, you're thinking, did not actually lock up Clinton. You confuse obedience to what the fascist demiurge can get away with with non-fascism.


In 2016 a xenophobic movement glorifying violence against journ*lists comes to power united behind an authoritarian strongman type. This person can't turn a democratic republic into his personal autocracy overnight, but he can fire people who investigate his misdeeds.

2020 happens.

And up until January 6th I might have said: perhaps I'm just seeing a fascist because I want to see a fascist. He won't really do anything untowards.

Trace: he showed us what he was on January 6th.

Genocide isn't complicated, Trace: it's part of our genetic heritage, the monstrous form of human social organism: gather around a human and kill. It's not that hard to understand, moderates just don't want to understand it. Fascism is just the addition of the military industrial complex to authoritarian purges. Murder monkey hate spirals giving orders to kill the brown people.

So you have a bunch of dissident right shitheads who want to believe that Trump isn't what leftwing people have been saying he was for 8 years? Get real. You have to get real, Trace.

That's what's pathetic about your fixation on Girard. I said he deserved to be defrocked from his Wikipedia priesthood, didn't I?

Compared to Scott Alexander, Girard's crimes are minor and irrelevant and you're small and petty for focusing on them.

Trump got shot today. Because civil war is inevitable once he's running because he will lose and then he will fight again because he already did. Our court system failed to handle him. Frankly I think the cause is down to: boomer political will isn't there because of a truly bizarre mass senescence.

But once civil war is inevitable, civil war will be fought. Trump doesn't get to be president again after January 6th and if you disagree with that? Frick you, get the frick out of my America. There can be no negotiating with people who believe Trump can be president again.

Believe it or not I don't think he can win: people like me are about to get

REALLY

LOUD.

And I will not see my country fall to a boomer fascist.

You can help or you can whine.

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not reading your substack

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I read some of your old posts on 'SFBA' discussion groups and they're extra r-slurred in retrospect now that Trump is out of office. :#marseyhugretard:

Also worth mentioning that you were banned for, I quote, 'Being a str*ggot.'. I was shocked that they used such language in the ban announcement. :#marseypearlclutch:

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@TracingWoodgrains won't comment on this because, he knows you're not wrong.

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I start reading your posts or comments, think to myself "this person is doing a bad and cringe impersonation of a leftoid", look at the username and everytime, without fail, its @Impassionata

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Impassionata trying so hard to convince us he and @TracingWoodgrains are different people :marseylaugh:

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Thanks for alerting me to this thread I missed so I can give trace an upvote :traceheart:

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I gave him a upvote, too. Now his article is number one :marseymerchant::marseymerchant:

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:#marseyagreefast:

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:#marseyembrace::!marseyembrace:

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>CULTIST DEFENDING THE CULT AGAINST AN AGGRESSOR, sorry but that's the darn truth

So wait, sincere question, was the guy on wikipedia the 58m-read substack article was about critical of rationality? because if so lmfao holy shit

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:#soysnootypefasttalking:

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:#chudtantrumtalking:

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Heck yeah! I want you and @TracingWoodgrains in spandex outfits wrestling in the midst of Spokane :marseypunching:

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That's a whole lot of words :marseylongpostglow: to tell me you're a cute twink.

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You're an idiot.

:#marseycrayoneaterpat:

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Keep yourself safe

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Agree.

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Good article. Bit long. Good /r/drama shoutout, very validating. Frick that guy and wikipedia in general.

I know who I am; I know who my friends are.

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re: the length โ€” I figured that nobody else in the world would be quite as insane as I was, so if I wanted anything to be on the record about him I needed to put it there myself

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I want you to know I read the whole thing and I thought it was fascinating. And then I paid the $5 a month to read the companion article


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SPAL absolutely decimated

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That was like a year ago. It's over. He's gone.

I still have the screen shots. Ask me nicely.

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trans furry lives matter :marseyfurryflag:

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Imma volunteer to be your editor on this article. Here's my shorter revised version:

This guy is a huge cute twink, he is the Albert Speer of citogenesis. (End article with working links to rdrama and kiwifarms)

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Only one small edit

This guy is a huge cute twink, he is the Albert Speer of citogenesis. (End article with working links to goatse hidden behind apparent links to rdrama and kiwifarms)

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Trace, I normally despise long articles but I read the whole darn thing. This is something I've been noticing on wiki for a while now and it's good to see someone organize the issue it into a fantastic article.

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His writings were a big part of @Bardflnn realizing that lesswrong and the whole rationalist community are just reactionary garbage. Any sane person just needs too open Roko's Twitter feed too learn as much.

@Bardflnn Stand with Israel

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:soyjakcobson: Nooo! I need to read the rationally correct words of Lesswrong to avoid believing in heckin nonsense!

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This thing is good. Can we ever a /r/subredditsimulator style autodrama post with 10 of these talking to each other? @HeyMoon

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@Bussy-boy !raw

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It's a good idea but I probably won't bother :marseyantiwork:. You can generate raw prompts and see what that would look like though

edit: okay well they all got cut off before getting to the comments, but this would have worked

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One day when I was in high school I had a dream that told me to get myself together and that you can be whoever you want to be. 
I then started my transition when I was 15. 
I was kicked out for doing so. 
I decided to just join the military. 
I thought it was the best thing that I could do because that was the thing that was gonna make me a man.
So I went to the recruiter and I signed up.
After that I did basic training in the army. 
But I got kicked out for depression. 
Then I decided to just be myself and not worry about anyone. 
But that wasn't a good idea because I didn't get a job after the military. 
And no one wanted to hire me. 
So I just started having sex with people for money.
When that ran out I decided to just be myself again. 
So I just stayed on welfare until I was 24. 
I even got kicked out of a bunch of different houses for having bad credit and being depressed.
So I decided to just be myself. 
And I just kept going back to living with myself and being on welfare.
It was a good life. 
I just did sex work for some extra money in those times. 
I had a lot of people who liked me. 
So I was just like ok. 
I just stayed like that until I was 29. 
I got a call from my grandma and I asked her how tf I didn't know anyone in my family. 
So I decided to just be myself.
But that didn't work out because I got kicked out of my grandparents' house for sex work.
So I moved out and met another girl. 
And we decided to have a relationship. 
So we moved out. 
I got a job at HEB. 
I really liked it but then I got fired for being gay.
So I decided to just be myself again.
But that didn't work out because I was fired from every job I applied for.
So I decided to join the air force. 
That didn't work out because I got kicked out for being depressed.
So I just sat there and got on welfare. 
That was until I got married.
I got married because she said she was pregnant and that she wanted me to give her money. 
So I just stayed with her and I didn't know that I could just leave her but I just thought that I could do whatever I wanted.
So I did that for seven

I was born in a small town in Idaho in 1996.

My childhood was ordinary. I didn't have any friends or hobbies, I just studied hard, did well, and spent my free time with my family. I never questioned the world or rebelled against it; I never had any great desires to be something I wasn't. 

But in early 2016, when I was around 19 years old, the world changed for me suddenly and in a big way. 

The world changed for me with the birth of a baby. 

In 2014, my mother told me that she was pregnant and that she had decided on a name for the baby. "I've decided to call her Marsey-chan," she said. I didn't understand what she meant by this, though, but I didn't question it or ask for a better explanation. 

My mother went into labor in the summer of 2016, and I remember going with her to the hospital. There, I held my sister, Marsey-chan, in my arms for the first time, and I loved her immediately. She was so cute and tiny and perfect. Her eyes were as big and round as saucers, and her mouth made a little O shape every time she scrunched up her face. She could barely even speak, but she would still call out to me for milk and attention.

I stayed up nights with Marsey-chan, bottle-feeding her, changing her diapers, and rocking her to sleep. I watched her grow and change like a little plant, the way babies grow. I watched her start to crawl, then stand, then take her first steps. She was mine, my Marsey-chan, and I loved her more than anything.

As my sister grew up, I had to start thinking about my career. I didn't know what I wanted to do or where I wanted to go, so I decided to stay at the hospital with my sister. The hospital had a lot of jobs for me, and I enjoyed helping out around the place. I worked as a nurse's aide for a while, then as a janitor. I had access to a lot of drugs, and I often took them, especially opioids. I enjoyed the way they made me feel. 

When I was in my early 20s, I decided to leave the hospital and get a job in the outside world. I wanted to see what it was like to be a normal person. I found a job at

I am a 18 yo guy from India I was having a good time with my buddies until one day my mum told me that my father is going to marry another woman. I was so shocked and depressed that I didn't talk to anyone for a week. I stopped talking to my entire family and only ate food once or twice a week. I felt like I was going to die. My father would always make fun of me for being a loser and a loser. I was an unattractive, short 4'11" 90 pounds loser with curly hair, dark brown eyes, and a big nose that looked like the nose of a giant pig. I felt like one of the poorest people in the world. I tried to talk to that woman one day and I was very confused and depressed. I couldn't understand what was going on. I didn't know what was happening to me. I was wondering why my father would do this. What was going on? How could my life be so horrible? I started to wonder if I deserved this. I was the biggest loser. I didn't talk to her. Instead I went to sleep and woke up the next day after my bed was a total mess. I couldn't believe what was happening to me. I went to school with my mom and found out she was still with that guy and he was still dating that girl. I told her about it and she said that's OK. I told my mom that I wanted to kill myself and to die in a car crash. She told me to get out of it. I told her I will kill myself. She got mad. She called me an idiot and a pussy. She told me, "You don't have to do that. Your life is going to be OK. You're going to make your parents proud." I told her I am not going to listen to you. She got mad and called the police. I told them my life is going to end but they didn't believe me. The police and my mom were arguing and my mom was angry and she told me to get out. I went to the police station and they told me that I can stay at their house but I have to register my name as my dad's. I said, "That's not my dad." They said, "You have to stay here until you have a place to live." I said, "OK." They gave me a room to stay in but I told them I have no money. They told me if my mom didn
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!transphobes fascinating :marseylaying: story :marseyslime:

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I'm not actually trans. I'm a transphobe and a :marseytrain: janny.

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:soyjak: HeyMoon I was just joking

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>We have to make sure everybody on Wikipedia knows that Aella and the Yud are acting in bad faith :soysnootype:

VS

>lmao whore and fatty can't be right about stuff :marseyretardchad:

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There is no logical contradiction with the first one. That's why the logical problem of cynicism will be unsolvable in our lifetime, but still it will not go away.

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wow :marseyme: he must be thinking seeing this jiff

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Yoooooo @TracingWoodgrains I won't read the post for a while but awesome :marseymirror: work getting this scalp he's super :marseyspiderman2: annoying :marseychingchongattentionseek: on twitter :marseyetika: and even worse because he's close :marseynoyouzoom: to sensical but still incredibly deranged. You just need to find another wikijanny neurodivergent :marseyautismdisconcerting: enough :marseyitsallsotiresome: to sit through the CoC process now, make sure to respond to any DMs which could lead to this.

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whats this neighbors xitter?

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x.com/davidgerard

also

https://circumstances.run/@davidgerard

https://bsky.app/profile/davidgerard.co.uk

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wow this neighbor is really frickin gay lmbo

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>David Gerard

The Bardfinn of Wikipedia.

Anyway, more evidence that The Long March Through The Institutions is where it's at.

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That dude is for sure not one person he's a soros funded conglomerate

Trans lives matter

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No paid actor would be this petty and hold this much of a grudge, especially in a group. This is the kind of self-defeating pursuit that only a single man could come up with.

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I disagree, have you READ the Gentleman's Guide to Forum Spies?

https://cryptome.org/2012/07/gent-forum-spies.htm

2. Become incredulous and indignant. Avoid discussing key issues and instead focus on side issues which can be used show the topic as being critical of some otherwise sacrosanct group or theme. This is also known as the 'How dare you!' gambit.

5. Sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule. This is also known as the primary 'attack the messenger' ploy, though other methods qualify as variants of that approach. Associate opponents with unpopular titles such as 'kooks', 'right-wing', 'liberal', 'left-wing', 'terrorists', 'conspiracy buffs', 'radicals', 'militia', 'racists', 'religious fanatics', 'sexual deviates', and so forth. This makes others shrink from support out of fear of gaining the same label, and you avoid dealing with issues.

18. Emotionalize, Antagonize, and Goad Opponents. If you can't do anything else, chide and taunt your opponents and draw them into emotional responses which will tend to make them look foolish and overly motivated, and generally render their material somewhat less coherent. Not only will you avoid discussing the issues in the first instance, but even if their emotional response addresses the issue, you can further avoid the issues by then focusing on how 'sensitive they are to criticism.'

I really recommend reading the whole thing. If you seriously say "Why would the powers that be want to control general public sentiment using the internet?" I will assume you're arguing in bad faith and be mean to you.

!followers you will always be pinged to come see the Gentleman's Guide to Forum Spies.

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:siren:BARD BOT ALERT!:siren:Current streak was: 0 days 00 hours 44 minutes and 55 seconds

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I get censoring the n word but why did you censor the word "darn" in a direct quote? I read it as "He really is pretty peepee smart and clueful"

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house style :tracesmug:

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"Ex"-Mormon my butt

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* my a--

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@$$

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That baseball need needs to get with the times and upgrade its name to the BIPOCs.

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Pink news is considered a reliable source by Wikipedia? Maybe the chuds were right...

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/ Yes and Vox, Teen Vogue and The Daily Beast are all considered exemplary while the likes of Quillette is not lol

:#marseyshrug:

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Yeah none of those should be considered reliable sources, Quillette included


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/ Really? I only know of Quillette because of Black Sam Harris (sometimes known by his pseudonym Coleman Hughes) and that guy seems relatively smart and balanced so I assumed the place he writes for is OK too.
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