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"So, I guess throw your legitimate evaluation of the problem straight in the trash because my buddy who barely passed high school and struggles to hold down any jobs said it's the immigrants fault that he's poor and can't afford a house.' :marseytrollcrazy: :marseytrollcrazy: :marseytrollcrazy: DEATH TO ALL NEOLIBERALS

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I want to kill and defile the corpse of this person :marseytrollgun: :marseytrollgun: :marseytrollgun:

imagine having such a lack of compassion for your nearest physical neighbours and actually sincerely being joyful at having their life and economic wellfare become redundant because of the very policy and wordlview you advocate for

like just imagine, the sheer ruthlessness this man is advocating for - that because you made mistakes in life, and failed to accumulate education, you deserve impoverishment, and being outcompeted by immigrants who devalue any physical labour you can do out of sheer numbers

these freaks are more callous than libertarian child slavery memers

!neolibs @nuclearshill plz keep yourself safe

!commies im ready to become a commissar :marseyredguard: and pile these fricks against a wall

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because my buddy who barely passed high school and struggles to hold down any jobs said it's the immigrants fault that he's poor and can't afford a house.

imagine being "educated" and not realizing after a basic class in economics that unfettered immigration illegal or otherwise drives up housing costs due to increased demand and drives down wages even in jobs that illegals cant do. The fact that some dumb hick understands this and /u/internetgoodguy doesnt says a lot more about them than the dumb hick. Lmao, what a fricking racist

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Housing is not more expensive because ilegal immigrants, it's expensive because of NIMBYs and construction regulations, the poorcels who cross the border are not the ones buying houses in middle-claas neighborhoods and no, there's no overpopulation problem in the United States, a mere look at the map is enough too point that out

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>just live in a cuckbox and pay more than 20 years ago for shittier construction

Gee when you put it that way :marseyclueless:

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IT'S EXPENSIVE BECAUSE OF NIMBYS AND CONSTRUCTION REGULATIONS

i avree that doesnt help and wed have mofe supply if not for that

poorcels who cross the border are not the ones buying houses in middle-claas neighborhoods

if poor peoples houses cost more then middle class houses will too, thieir prices are correlated as is their demand. If middle class people cant afford to buy in the middle class neighborhoods they gentrify rhe poor ones. If a bunch of middle class homes are turned into rentals and the immigrants are getting rent assitance the rebt goes up across the board jacking up the value of rentals in middle class neighborhoods. All houses in that neighborhood go up in value/vost proportionately.

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The only places that don't have too many people get their water from a well, and that's just for now. All of the good land is overcrowded

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Why can't both be to blame?

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Literal r-slurs used to be able to afford homes in the 60s to 70s.

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there was a time when the government would give acres of land AND a mule for free just to encourage people to spread the population out. We couldnt possible be overpopulated now tho...

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Not until we have the same pop. Density as China. :marseywholesome:

Where rural means only 200k people live there

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drives up housing costs due to increased demand

That's not how price curves work.

Housing prices increase with demand because of supply restrictions caused by old white people.

and drives down wages even in jobs that illegals cant do

High skilled immigrants increase native wages & employment. Low skilled immigrants have no impact on native wages, they complete with other immigrants for jobs.

The hicks don't want to spend all day processing meat, they are too busy fricking their sisters.

Have you considered trying not to be an economically illiterate r-slur? You are on the Internet and have access to academic work that would tell you that you are a dumb frick but you have no desire to not be a dumb frick.

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That's not how price curves work.

supply/demand ratio is how all prices end up being determined in the market.

supply restrictions caused by old white people

if resteictions stay the same/supply stays the same butt immigration goes up then prices will go up. Building more houses is a solution to the problem, butt that doesnt mean that increased demand from more people needing housing is definitely a massive/main factor and youre dumb for suggesting otherwise.

Low skilled immigrants have no impact on native wages,

this is demonstrably false butt it woulf makes since that someone who talks like you wouldnt understand that.

Have you considered trying not to be an economically illiterate r-slur? You are on the Internet and have access to academic work that would tell you that you are a dumb frick but you have no desire to not be a dumb frick.

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supply/demand ratio is how all prices end up being determined in the market.

You are presuming inelastic supply, clearing price at equilibrium doesn't increase with increased demand unless supply is inelastic. Supply is inelastic because of old white people who need to be genocided.

this is demonstrably false butt it woulf makes since that someone who talks like you wouldnt understand that.

https://www.jstor.org/stable/2523702 which was further considered https://www.jstor.org/stable/25760175 https://www.iza.org/publications/dp/2919/measuring-immigrations-effects-on-labor-demand-a-reexamination-of-the-mariel-boatlift https://ideas.repec.org/p/fip/fedpwp/04-3.html and https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w21801/w21801.pdf

Also see https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w32389/w32389.pdf for immigrants in general not just refugees.

IE - You are a fricking r-slur.

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I'd rather kill all immigrants than build a single new house. The ones we have are fine

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Why do we need to genocide the whites? Is that bc it will decrease population thus lowering costs :marseyshapiro:

a bunch of links that the poster doesnt explain

:dukenukemtldr: if you cant explain yourself in simple terms then you dont understand what your talking about...like an r-slur. God youre insufferable, i bet you smell like beans.

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>High skilled immigrants increase native wages & employment. Low skilled immigrants have no impact on native wages, they complete with other immigrants for jobs.

And what kind of immigrant do you think the vast majority we are receiving right now is? :marseyclueless:

You must live in a bubble if you really think low skill immigrants don't depress wages. Why do you think guys like Cesar Chavez were attacking illegals with chains and lead pipes back in the day in California?

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You can try to explain this to them but they'll just parrot the globalist talking point that immigrants create new jobs and businesses. Somehow they believe that millions of non-English speaking third worlders are going to create businesses and stimulate the economy rather than just be quasi-slave laborers that strain our already overwhelmed system.

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Where'd you take your basic econ course, the local special ed school? Anybody with an IQ over room temp knows that immigrants don't reduce wages cause they also have to consume. Both supply and demand go up. If anything, bringing in some smart sexy Indian dude to replace the native mongoloid is gonna boost everybody's wages in the long run.

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Anybody with an IQ over room temp knows that immigrants don't reduce wages cause they also have to consume. Both supply and demand go up

if we werent spending billions feeding/housing/subsidizing them then youd be right. They recieve more than they put in. The sexy indian dudes with tech jobs/med jobs arent the problem nor are they the majority of people coming here. Maybe be more correct be for getting all confident/condescending?

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Then say the problem is welfare (which illegals don't even really get, especially in Republican states), not immigration itself. No wonder you're scared of Mexicans, they're somehow more fluent in English than you.

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Then say the problem is welfare (which illegals don't even really get, especially in Republican states),

the feds are literally giving them money straight up

https://rdrama.net/h/peakpoors/post/305265/bidenharrismarseyridinadministration-blasted-for-running-out-of

FEMA got $1billion earlier this yearspecifically to house and feed migrants and they spent it all, now theyre syaing they dont have money for what their real job is which is helping citizens in a natural diaaster.

No wonder you're scared of Mexicans, they're somehow more fluent in English than you.

i can tell youre trolling at this point, so ill just state for hapless readers that most of the immigrants are not from mexico, and a lionshare arent coming from south america even, though they travel through their to get in via the southern border.

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1 billion is nothing. We spend 500 billion a year to pay for the health of fat inbred burgers. Again, if you wanna b-word about welfare in general, I'm all for it. You shouldn't be bitching about immigrants that lower prices and raise wages for us all 🥰.

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We spend 500 billion a year to pay for the health of fat inbred burgers

they got that 500billion(also spurce on that number i doubt its annual) from the tax paying citizen burgers in the first place so thats not the same.

immigrants that lower prices and raise wages for us all 🥰

youre wrong and dumb :marseythumbsup:

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they got that 500billion(also spurce on that number i doubt its annual) from the tax paying citizen burgers in the first place so thats not the same.

Ever heard of medicaid? It's how your mom could afford her liposuction. And the trailer trash who barely pay any taxes at all benefit from Medicaid. Chad from the Hamptons isn't eligible.

youre wrong and dumb

Fake and straight. My parents tell me I'm smart every time I call them 😤

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theyre citizens who worked in this country their whole life so they deserve it after paying in. Adding more people is what makes that program cost more, which is another reasom whynimmigration is bad. Youre clearly young and edgy, butt also very dumb and apprently from a dumb lineage.

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the best country is one with zero people in it as then house prices will never go up

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im not saying we shouldnt have any immigration, just that it cant be unfetterred. The amount of immigrants admitted should be determined based on other economic factors like ive discussed.

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talking like a politician for some reason

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nuance is dead to most people it seems

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