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"So, I guess throw your legitimate evaluation of the problem straight in the trash because my buddy who barely passed high school and struggles to hold down any jobs said it's the immigrants fault that he's poor and can't afford a house.' :marseytrollcrazy: :marseytrollcrazy: :marseytrollcrazy: DEATH TO ALL NEOLIBERALS

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I want to kill and defile the corpse of this person :marseytrollgun: :marseytrollgun: :marseytrollgun:

imagine having such a lack of compassion for your nearest physical neighbours and actually sincerely being joyful at having their life and economic wellfare become redundant because of the very policy and wordlview you advocate for

like just imagine, the sheer ruthlessness this man is advocating for - that because you made mistakes in life, and failed to accumulate education, you deserve impoverishment, and being outcompeted by immigrants who devalue any physical labour you can do out of sheer numbers

these freaks are more callous than libertarian child slavery memers

!neolibs @nuclearshill plz keep yourself safe

!commies im ready to become a commissar :marseyredguard: and pile these fricks against a wall

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I'm not about to take moral criticism from someone who lived on the better side of an apartheid


:chad!black2: :marseybear::marseyrefrigerator:

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But i wasn't alive during apartheid :marseyshy:

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Then die zoomer


:chad!black2: :marseybear::marseyrefrigerator:

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I'm 30 years old

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Man, you really skimmed that line


:chad!black2: :marseybear::marseyrefrigerator:

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Juuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuust barely :marseystroke:

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>like just imagine, the sheer ruthlessness this man is advocating for - that because you made mistakes in life, and failed to accumulate education, you deserve impoverishment, and being outcompeted by immigrants who devalue any physical labour you can do out of sheer numbers

You are on a site where half the culture is mocking people who failed at life. Stop pearl clutching or keep yourself safe.

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Chuds mocking the poor:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17279796966213427.webp

Chuds when Reddit mocks the poor:

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Rightoids have been insufferable with their selective outrage lately, like crying about those evil demonrats hating the working class and then demanding Biden fire all the those evil striking workers.

!nonchuds discuss

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>the mob boss dock worker :marseylumberjack: with a Bentley wanting 70% wage increase :marseychartuptrend: instead of 50% is the same as factory workers that can't afford a house

:#marseyretardchad:

!chuds aren't even that bad at nuance and that's fricking :marseytom: saying something :marseysmugface:

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That neighbor dripped out.

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!fashion

Gotta stay sopranomaxxing !badabing

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Kino

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This

This comment right here is TOTAL CHUD VICTORY :#chudjakdancing:

:#chudsmug: @Guy_LeSpook How's it feel to get BTFO

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This

This comment right here is TOTAL CHUD VICTORY

My bussy may be blasted but at least I don't write like a Redditor. :marseyindignant:

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Factory workers owning houses with just the moid working was an exclusively post-war American anomaly (factory workers in europe rented apartments) and is never going back

Black lives matter

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>the working :marseylifting: class can never :marseyladybugitsover: thrive and any example of them doing so can never :marseyitsover: be repeated

!commies this is what neolibs really :marseythinkorino2: believe :marseyparappa:

:#carpdisagree:

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If you want to nuke us back to the stone age I guess it could happen again.


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Commies don't want private property. They want social housing apartments blocks

Black lives matter

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The people will all own the homes because it's collective ownership you fricking :marseytom: bootlicker

:#marseybootlicker2:

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Do you call the hooker you paid your wife as well?

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>paying in a post capitalist :marseyaynrand2: society

Lmao

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The vast majority of the benefits of the strike will go to ordinary workers, not one giga based union boss

Any !chuds siding with WOKE COMMUNIST corporations should be shot.

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See why people may separate these two groups of workers as two separate entities?

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Yes, mostly without unions on the left and unionized on the right. No shit the people who've organized themselves get better pay and bennies compared to the class cucked.

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Hmm I wonder :marseygigathonk: if outsourcing and massive immigrant :marseytunaktunakinvasion: labor may suppress unionization efforts

:#marseywrongthonk:

Look I'm not against all unions and guys trying to make ends meet but I am against fricking :marseytom: over others to get a sweeter deal when your doing alright.

For instance I was for the rail strike :marseyhurricane: that got fricked cause they're being mistreated from what I've seen.

Let's not pretend this strike :marseyhurricane: isn't about fricking :marseytom: people over when that's the direct statement of the leader :marseyputin: of this strike. They were getting 50% and now striking for 70% more.

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We can't offshore our workers who work off the shore, so they have bargaining power.


:chad!black2: :marseybear::marseyrefrigerator:

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factory workers that can't afford a house

Skill issue :marseypartymaxx:

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!familyman it's over for chuds :peterdead:

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"The poor" is not one unified thing

There's poor that deserve to be there, literal criminals and r-slurs that are shitlibs' sacred cow and chuds make fun of

And there's hardworking, honest folx who get shit on by their government at every step.

Libards believe these people are unpeople and chuds hold them sacred (in both cases because they're yt)

The striking workers in this recent example fall into neither category because they are neither poor nor hardworking


Hope this clears things up

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>And there's hardworking, honest folx who get shit on by their government at every step.

:#surewalz:

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>implying chuds don't treat all poors like the first example

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You could sum up human events for aliens very well :marseyagree:

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The poors I mock make dumb financial decisions purposely, mostly involving living above their means. I wouldnt make fun of poors who are trying to live what used to be the lower middle class lifestyle, especially when gov is actively fricking them over w dumbshit policies

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All poors make dumb decisions financially that's why they are poor, r-slur.

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Not everyone can be a lawyer or doctor making bank. Some people do need to work in shit like manufacturing and earn a living, problem is its not enough and immigration definitely affects why its not enough for them

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Reddit is for sincere opinions only so those redditors are bad people

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Do you purposefully suck at reading comprehension or something?

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!commies feels? Any union bois or girlies out there hurtin' for a reason to stand in solidarity? I offered to do all paperwork to unionize my department but not enough employees :marseyrope:

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Family Man is so overrated.

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Yes but I'M a good person :marseytrollcrazy:

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no really u guyz

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Youre white

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no i'm not

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You a little b-word.

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I'm not.

I'm Not Bimothy hello :marseywave2:

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>sincerely being joyful at having their life and economic wellfare become redundant because of the very policy and wordlview you advocate for

Frick policy and worldview, we'll automate them out of a job directly. !codecels

Adapt or die, chuds. :marseytwerking: You will own nothing because you accepted the EULA.

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The only license I will ever agree to is the GPL :!marseydebian:

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+BIPOC :#letsfuckinggofast:

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Anyone who says that :marseymerchantsoy: don't control absolutely everything needs to explain how literally every single blue talking point is a perfect Markov trap.

>Noooooo you can't blame immigrants and our immigration policy the economists say it's because of zoning and lack of construction :soycry:

>Ok, so who's in charge of building and zoning restrictions in every single major city? :marseychud:

>Nooooooooooo bad faith argument you're just trying to justify your racism chud :marseymerchantsoy:

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Nobody hates the working-class common people more than self-proclaimed "progressives" do. :sjwjak: Once upon a time, the left represented the common people. Today, however, the left represents ivory tower elitists who absolutely despise the common people. That's why Donald Trump was able to hit such a raw nerve with blue-collar voters. Trump is a world-class rabble-rouser, and he knows precisely how to appeal to the canaille with populist rhetoric. Of course, in reality, the idea of multi-billionaire Donald Trump being a champion of the common man is absolutely laughable. It's also extremely ironic that Trump is so popular with Evangelicals, because Trump's entire life has been the absolute epitome of sin, gluttony, cupidity, concupiscence, debauchery, and bacchanalia. Trump is the living, breathing embodiment of all 7 deadly sins, other than sloth. Literally all that anyone has to do to get Evangelical morons to fawn over them is to pay lip service to the pro-life movement.

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Of course, in reality, the idea of multi-billionaire Donald Trump being a champion of the common man is absolutely laughable.

Trump behaves and lives exactly the same way lower class uneducated whites, and blacks for that matter, behave when they come into wealth. He gilds his mansions with gold, fricks hookers, has baby mommas, runs his mouth all the time and is boastful. That's why the working class sees themselves in him, and they sort of have a point in a way, Trump unironically does care for the average working guy than the left by simple virtue of having no disdain for them.

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Trump's ability to resonate with the working poor is really quite something. I think it ultimately comes down to A.) they see themselves as future billionaires; they just gotta work a little bit harder and they'll be just like Trump some day (and, if not, it's because they simply didn't work hard enough or were content with what little they had). And B.) Trump may be obscenely wealthy, but he says vulgar things like "shithole countries" and "grab them by the kitty", which they find relatable because they think and talk the same way. They are wholly convinced that Trump "tells it like it is!", even though his entire career has been based on criminal activities and outright Janus-faced deception. But, hey, he says racist stuff and likes to degrade women, so he's one of us!

Trump has completely hornswoggled the booboisie into thinking that he's a salvific messiah for the common man. To low-information voters, Trump represents their inner id, saying the things that they're too afraid to say and attacking the groups that they scapegoat for their problems. Trump consistently uses crude, exoteric, just-folks language (i.e. the opposite of how I'm talking right now) and, to angry rednecks, every bilious, contrarious, rebarbative thing that comes out of Trump's mouth is a doughty, valorous act of derring-do against the PC establishment. The shambolic state of the government under the Trump administration was always totally irrelevant to them. All that matters to disillusioned rednecks is that Trump "tells it like it is", putting uppity colored people and womenfolk in their place.

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In all that longpost you missed it being exactly what I said, Trump behaves like they WOULD behave if they were where Trump is. They wouldn't live in some New England cottage, play tennis and talk about their trips to Milan. Frick that, they'd have a decked out gold mansion, trophy bimbo wife, star in WWE shit, be a player. How many gangsta rappers referenced and praised Trump in the 90s? It was a fair amount.

they see themselves as future billionaires;

The left throws this out but I swear it's more telling on themselves and rightoids don't actually fantasize about being in mansions and having wealth. I'm willing to believe the side most obsessed with billionaires, seething constantly about billionaire wealth and private jets, is the side with the bigger class complex. If anything rightoids are class cucked and are more likely to brag about wagecucking the most shitty blue collar job for little pay to prove they're "hard".

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>working-class

Implies these people have jobs. They're all signed off with fake disabilities pulling a check yet somehow angry at the "undeserving" sponges.

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Medicare & Social Security-collecting welfare queens love to complain about Pablo working at a meat-packing plant for $15/hr funding their retirement

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Poors on both sides 1000% deserve their fate.

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>Poors on both sides 1000% deserve their fate.

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Immigrants did this.

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its the free market dramaconomy :marseysmug2:

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Couldn't be me :marseyclueless:

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Notice how he stopped replying, neighbor is drenched in misery

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/r/Dallas was jerking itself off a month ago because some report suggested that 25% of the cities population was immigrants while another thread right next to it was complaining about high housing costs.

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must have missed that one between the daily "pastor r*ped a kid" and "frick republicans" circlerjerk posts

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Yeah you have to wade through a ton of garbage on that sub. Anything remotely interesting or local specific some shithead just says to post it on nextdoor.

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Also Dallas sucks.

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>Oh yeah nobody is from around here it's all non-native frick yes hit me with that non-english speaking uururrgh yeah aaaaahahh :marseycumplosion:

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There are two billboards (that I know of) on major highways that aren't even in English.

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Just build houses lol

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because my buddy who barely passed high school and struggles to hold down any jobs said it's the immigrants fault that he's poor and can't afford a house.

imagine being "educated" and not realizing after a basic class in economics that unfettered immigration illegal or otherwise drives up housing costs due to increased demand and drives down wages even in jobs that illegals cant do. The fact that some dumb hick understands this and /u/internetgoodguy doesnt says a lot more about them than the dumb hick. Lmao, what a fricking racist

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Housing is not more expensive because ilegal immigrants, it's expensive because of NIMBYs and construction regulations, the poorcels who cross the border are not the ones buying houses in middle-claas neighborhoods and no, there's no overpopulation problem in the United States, a mere look at the map is enough too point that out

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>just live in a cuckbox and pay more than 20 years ago for shittier construction

Gee when you put it that way :marseyclueless:

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IT'S EXPENSIVE BECAUSE OF NIMBYS AND CONSTRUCTION REGULATIONS

i avree that doesnt help and wed have mofe supply if not for that

poorcels who cross the border are not the ones buying houses in middle-claas neighborhoods

if poor peoples houses cost more then middle class houses will too, thieir prices are correlated as is their demand. If middle class people cant afford to buy in the middle class neighborhoods they gentrify rhe poor ones. If a bunch of middle class homes are turned into rentals and the immigrants are getting rent assitance the rebt goes up across the board jacking up the value of rentals in middle class neighborhoods. All houses in that neighborhood go up in value/vost proportionately.

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The only places that don't have too many people get their water from a well, and that's just for now. All of the good land is overcrowded

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Why can't both be to blame?

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Literal r-slurs used to be able to afford homes in the 60s to 70s.

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there was a time when the government would give acres of land AND a mule for free just to encourage people to spread the population out. We couldnt possible be overpopulated now tho...

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Not until we have the same pop. Density as China. :marseywholesome:

Where rural means only 200k people live there

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drives up housing costs due to increased demand

That's not how price curves work.

Housing prices increase with demand because of supply restrictions caused by old white people.

and drives down wages even in jobs that illegals cant do

High skilled immigrants increase native wages & employment. Low skilled immigrants have no impact on native wages, they complete with other immigrants for jobs.

The hicks don't want to spend all day processing meat, they are too busy fricking their sisters.

Have you considered trying not to be an economically illiterate r-slur? You are on the Internet and have access to academic work that would tell you that you are a dumb frick but you have no desire to not be a dumb frick.

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That's not how price curves work.

supply/demand ratio is how all prices end up being determined in the market.

supply restrictions caused by old white people

if resteictions stay the same/supply stays the same butt immigration goes up then prices will go up. Building more houses is a solution to the problem, butt that doesnt mean that increased demand from more people needing housing is definitely a massive/main factor and youre dumb for suggesting otherwise.

Low skilled immigrants have no impact on native wages,

this is demonstrably false butt it woulf makes since that someone who talks like you wouldnt understand that.

Have you considered trying not to be an economically illiterate r-slur? You are on the Internet and have access to academic work that would tell you that you are a dumb frick but you have no desire to not be a dumb frick.

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supply/demand ratio is how all prices end up being determined in the market.

You are presuming inelastic supply, clearing price at equilibrium doesn't increase with increased demand unless supply is inelastic. Supply is inelastic because of old white people who need to be genocided.

this is demonstrably false butt it woulf makes since that someone who talks like you wouldnt understand that.

https://www.jstor.org/stable/2523702 which was further considered https://www.jstor.org/stable/25760175 https://www.iza.org/publications/dp/2919/measuring-immigrations-effects-on-labor-demand-a-reexamination-of-the-mariel-boatlift https://ideas.repec.org/p/fip/fedpwp/04-3.html and https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w21801/w21801.pdf

Also see https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w32389/w32389.pdf for immigrants in general not just refugees.

IE - You are a fricking r-slur.

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I'd rather kill all immigrants than build a single new house. The ones we have are fine

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Why do we need to genocide the whites? Is that bc it will decrease population thus lowering costs :marseyshapiro:

a bunch of links that the poster doesnt explain

:dukenukemtldr: if you cant explain yourself in simple terms then you dont understand what your talking about...like an r-slur. God youre insufferable, i bet you smell like beans.

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>High skilled immigrants increase native wages & employment. Low skilled immigrants have no impact on native wages, they complete with other immigrants for jobs.

And what kind of immigrant do you think the vast majority we are receiving right now is? :marseyclueless:

You must live in a bubble if you really think low skill immigrants don't depress wages. Why do you think guys like Cesar Chavez were attacking illegals with chains and lead pipes back in the day in California?

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You can try to explain this to them but they'll just parrot the globalist talking point that immigrants create new jobs and businesses. Somehow they believe that millions of non-English speaking third worlders are going to create businesses and stimulate the economy rather than just be quasi-slave laborers that strain our already overwhelmed system.

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Where'd you take your basic econ course, the local special ed school? Anybody with an IQ over room temp knows that immigrants don't reduce wages cause they also have to consume. Both supply and demand go up. If anything, bringing in some smart sexy Indian dude to replace the native mongoloid is gonna boost everybody's wages in the long run.

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Anybody with an IQ over room temp knows that immigrants don't reduce wages cause they also have to consume. Both supply and demand go up

if we werent spending billions feeding/housing/subsidizing them then youd be right. They recieve more than they put in. The sexy indian dudes with tech jobs/med jobs arent the problem nor are they the majority of people coming here. Maybe be more correct be for getting all confident/condescending?

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Then say the problem is welfare (which illegals don't even really get, especially in Republican states), not immigration itself. No wonder you're scared of Mexicans, they're somehow more fluent in English than you.

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Then say the problem is welfare (which illegals don't even really get, especially in Republican states),

the feds are literally giving them money straight up

https://rdrama.net/h/peakpoors/post/305265/bidenharrismarseyridinadministration-blasted-for-running-out-of

FEMA got $1billion earlier this yearspecifically to house and feed migrants and they spent it all, now theyre syaing they dont have money for what their real job is which is helping citizens in a natural diaaster.

No wonder you're scared of Mexicans, they're somehow more fluent in English than you.

i can tell youre trolling at this point, so ill just state for hapless readers that most of the immigrants are not from mexico, and a lionshare arent coming from south america even, though they travel through their to get in via the southern border.

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1 billion is nothing. We spend 500 billion a year to pay for the health of fat inbred burgers. Again, if you wanna b-word about welfare in general, I'm all for it. You shouldn't be bitching about immigrants that lower prices and raise wages for us all πŸ₯°.

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We spend 500 billion a year to pay for the health of fat inbred burgers

they got that 500billion(also spurce on that number i doubt its annual) from the tax paying citizen burgers in the first place so thats not the same.

immigrants that lower prices and raise wages for us all πŸ₯°

youre wrong and dumb :marseythumbsup:

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they got that 500billion(also spurce on that number i doubt its annual) from the tax paying citizen burgers in the first place so thats not the same.

Ever heard of medicaid? It's how your mom could afford her liposuction. And the trailer trash who barely pay any taxes at all benefit from Medicaid. Chad from the Hamptons isn't eligible.

youre wrong and dumb

Fake and straight. My parents tell me I'm smart every time I call them 😀

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theyre citizens who worked in this country their whole life so they deserve it after paying in. Adding more people is what makes that program cost more, which is another reasom whynimmigration is bad. Youre clearly young and edgy, butt also very dumb and apprently from a dumb lineage.

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the best country is one with zero people in it as then house prices will never go up

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im not saying we shouldnt have any immigration, just that it cant be unfetterred. The amount of immigrants admitted should be determined based on other economic factors like ive discussed.

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