Can someone explain to me how it went from "All s are libertarians! Secret child eating libertarians run the shadow government!!" to this?:
We need to talk about the accusation "Matt Gaetz is a libertarian."
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Also these are literally the Republicans current top guys:
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I disagree.
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If he fricked his teen gf 1 minute after she turned 18, would she not be a child? It would be objectionable if he did it 1 minutes before, though?
You're redefining words to mean what you want when you want them to mean whatever works for you at that moment.
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Same dumb argument.
Yes, a hard line for the age of consent is inherently silly, especially if taken to such an absurdly specific degree, because humans simply don't mature on a concrete timetable and they do it gradually, not by certain age points. However, given that everyone agrees that children need special protection again exploitation from adults, sexual or otherwise, hard lines are the only reasonable way the law can protect children. It is simply unfeasible to go with more accurate or elegant ways of judging maturity in this regard. And, perhaps more importantly, if you're not a fricking libertarian it should be really easy to follow these silly, hard lines.
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You should be like an adult in training by 17. Treating them like children prevents them from maturing, especially in a period of their lives where it's mature now or never.
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Well, if we lower the age of consent to 17, people are going to argue to lower it to 16, then to 15, etc, etc. There needs to be a hard line somewhere and since American society has decided that adulthood is at
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That somewhere is in the mid-teens, when most people start having s*x, which is what the AOC is practically everywhere. Notice how you made that joke about how what age is considered grown keeps going up. People aren't coming out more mature or "adult." Just the opposite.
We have to risk people going a little too young to keep people mentally healthy and mature. We do have about as hard of a line for when people are mature enough about s*x as possible, so why should we continue this trend of not letting people gain the experience needed to actually grow up?
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!metashit why is this pinkname working so hard to rationalize having s*x with teenagers?
btw your mom called me and told me that she hopes you keep yourself safe this weekend.
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!libertarianhunters !moidmoment you guys should see what happens in the rdrama GC on twitter
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Can we have them [redacted] right in their [redacted] so they [redacted] out all over the ground?
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lmao how did he rizz up ted
no trans lives matter
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Maybe
pinknames are all horny
rslured 16 year olds? It would
explain a lot.
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Hey. Don't smear all of us. Some of us are special needs older adults
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i dont care dont ping me
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Notice how people keep calling Gaetz a libertarian to discredit everything he's involved in? Making everything into something bad enables this, since people will avoid supporting something good to avoid being called a libertarian sympathizer or something.
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What is particularly good about Gaetz? He's a trolly r-slur who dodged a statutory r*pe (this is why he's a libertarian btw (and yes hebiejeebiephile is just a euphemism for libertarian)) conviction and is getting recommended for a promotion because he gives orange man good head.
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You think I should be shot like a guy molesting a literal child for years because I think people should be treated however is appropriatr for their age?
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In most countries, the law already treats teens like "adults in training". Stuff like child labour laws no longer apply or apply less, you can make big purchases without an adult, you can get a license to drive, etc. It's just with the whole "fricking teens" thing, the law (rightfully so in my opinion) would like to err on the side of caution when it comes to preventing sexual exploitation of minors.
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So...we need to prevent the sexual exploitation of minors by letting them do every adult thing except the one thing most people are doing at the age were discussing?
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You make it sound like they're not allowed to frick. They can frick each other as much as they want. Just you as an adult should stay out of that business.
Why does every discussion about the AoC invite you pseudo-libertarians to act in the most obtuse way possible?
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How am I being obtuse? You're mature enough at that age for adult interactions at work, when buying or selling things, joining up for the military when the recruiter comes to school, and so on. Why is it an issue when it comes to this one thing?
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Because being exploited in order to make you buy a couch or whatever tends to carry less severe damages than getting sexually exploited, I guess.
And when it comes to the whole military thing, that's your burger-specific autism and in my view really more of an issue with the military and not an argument for lower AoC.
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no it should definitely still be a crime. but it's not the same crime as if she was 12.
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12 year old generally don't start having s*x all on their own, and don't do any adult things like someone the age we're talking about would. The thing that would make 12 objectionable is completey absent.
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"What if this irrelevant scenario that provokes an emotional response instead of your example you're using to make an actual point?"
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You mean what if thing that didn't happen instead of thing that happened? Boy, that would really be something, wouldn't it?
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How would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast this morning?
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Probably the same way I'd feel if Matt Gaetz were a 19 year old junior college student.
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Justified in having ludicrous opinions?
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You're creating imaginary scenarios in your head. The age of consent exists for a reason. Right now its
But given enough time and acceptance that would turn into
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No it wouldn't:)
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The legal age is below 18 in almost every state and country around the world for a reason--it's normal for people to start having s*x in their mid-teens. Why would it drop when hysterics keep getting it higher (legally or in terms of social acceptance)? If anything, the mindset you have will lead to it rising higher and higher well past a healthy age.
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And you're neurodivergentally not understanding there are places we as a civilization have to just draw a hard line. If you can't help yourself from knowingly fricking a 17 year old and 11 months, then you are r-slurred and antisocial enough that you should be socially and systemically punished the same way if you'd fricked a 15 year old.
We do this for a lot of reasons, but another big one is at a minimum, 50% of moids and foids genuinely cannot comprehend consent and adulthood like they can't conceive what it would be like to have not eaten breakfast this morning. Not in an neurodivergent, overly literal way like you probably are, but in an r-slured turn-the-world-into-an-incest-r*pe-zone way if not constantly shamed and policed.
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I'm saying we draw a hard line under 18 because it makes sense. You're arguing with a person who doesn't exist, but makes arguments that are convenient for you.
If half of people can't function at a human level, but we need them to continue the human race, why would it matter if you fricked them at any age they could safely give birth? That'll be all about they could contribute to society.
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KEEP YOURSELF SAFE Groomer.
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I get women never truly mature, but what I'm describing clearly isn't a situation where anybody could even groom their partner.
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You'll be bouncing on my peepee soon enough libertarian.
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Your peepee is swallowed up by fat.
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Oh you gon' learn today.
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The trend of calling everything libertarianism usually has the effect of making what is not libertarianism look better, even though it is wrong for other reasons. "Muh two consenting adults" etc. as though it would be fine if she were 18.
White extinction is long overdue, said the ragdoll
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Is it because @ResneedingSyndrome said that white extinction is long overdue?
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IT'S CALLED HEEBIEGEEBIEPHILA
Lol what is this filter?
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It's filtering Heeb
It's antisemitic too say that white extinction is long overdue
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It would.
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It's not libertarianism, though. Words have meanings for a reason. "Hey, this person should be able to drive, get a job, go out unsupervised, pay taxes, and other things that require maturity. But don't you think they can do the big thing that marks one's entry into adulthood!"
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I disagree.
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"Power imbalance"
Same argument could be used to prevent them from working, paying taxes, and buying or selling things. It's a woman-brained argument that makes no sense. They chase after guys who have more power than them, and most guys could beat them silly any time they wanted, so there will always be a power imbalance.
Besides, if she can get a job, leave, go back home if she's living with him, she's not lacking power in that relationship.
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You jack off to japanese cartoons dont you?
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You make snarky Reddit quips when you have no good response to anything, don't you?
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OK, Libertarian,
KEEP YOURSELF SAFE, Remember its up the road not down the street.
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Bob, I know you're pissy you get bummed by a man because your micro can't penetrate anything, but there's no excuse for acting like you are
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Genuinely I hope you keep yourself safe
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Tim, stay away from horses.
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Thats not the definition of Bobbumman my neighbor.
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Don't care, homo
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Get ready to get gaped neighbor.
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