It has been revealed that this whole mess was actually a massive unprecedented attack by both Russia and China on NATO. While other disinfo campaigns in the West happened, they were basically just a warm up for this, an overwhelming sudden attack that was supposed to completely decapitate the country and wreck the whole eastern flank of NATO (we and Poland are the main NATO allies here, so with our collapse both Poland and Ukraine would fail soon). This has been prepared for years (since 2016) and failed because these r-slurs severely overestimated the whole 'Romania is a western democracy and a member of NATO and EU' while horribly underestimating the 'Romania is a semi-autocratic eastern european shithole' part
Georgescu winning with the help of some secret services (yes the conspiracy theories were right) and generals and becoming a dictator was the main part, which failed because the idea of a democratic state cancelling elections while people were voting was preposterous (too bad nobody here cares about democracy). The backup plan was to either start a violent revolution with the supporters they gathered in all these years, or to at least cause so much chaos that the whole country will become ungovernable (too bad Romania is the laziest and most cowardly country in Eastern Europe)
The coup step by step
after communism we never cleaned the country and the institutions of russian agents and sympathisers, so they just waited patiently for an opportunity to strike and bring Romania back into Russia's sphere of influence
the attack was carried by Russia with China's help and with the contribution of some other countries (probably third world countries bot armies)
during the peak of the electoral campaign Georgescu became the 9th trending topic on TikTok or something (don't use TikTok dunno how it works), and since no one really cares that much about Romania, this is proof that China was doing dumb shit with their algorithms
other disinfo campaigns that Russia is accused of (like Brexit) were basically tests to see how western countries react to online manipulations. Brexit is an important part here because of the whole 'you can't overturn the will of the people, so if a referendum passes you must honour it' conclusion. Russia was aware that they can't take over a western country, so they just focused on destabilising them, but they want to take over Eastern Europe, so the attack here was actually meant to be a coup and not just stirring shit for the lulz
this has been in the works for years, possibly since 2016; Georgescu has been living in Austria without a job all this time where he prepared for his esoteric messiah role and slowly gathered a following of conspiracy nutjobs
two weeks before the first elections an army of bots started to promote Georgescu everywhere on social media and especially on TikTok. Some accounts were older than the current TikTok, created when it was still only a chinese site. They got millions of people to vote for him.
the idea was to keep everything hidden until the elections, when Georgescu will be promoted suddenly and massively, and by the time the authorities will realize something is wrong he will have already won the first voting round, at which point no one would dare to do anything against 'the will of the people' (that part worked)
(at this point our secret services actually realized something is very funky and asked NATO for help without anyone knowing it)
the mysterious recount happened because the number of votes given to each candidate didn't match the votes that were presented on the election website and the authorities were worried that Russia somehow managed to get involved in the election process, but apparently they just hacked the website to mess with the numbers?
anyway, since everything was fine, the first round of the elections was validated and the election season continued while multiple secret services, both ours and foreign were taking notes
other weird things happened in the first voting session, like lots of ballots reaching the voting booths being already pre-stamped for Georgescu, but people assumed incompetency rather than foul play
well, it turns out that a big part of our authorities, from secret service agents to politicians to cops and army officials, tried to stage a soft coup and manipulate the elections to get Georgescu elected as president (and his other friends into the parliament). They tried to hide evidence from their colleagues, tripped up their investigations when they noticed something was wrong, distracted people, lied etc. The only reason they didn't succeed was because someone was smart enough to notify Burgerland first and only then tried to sort through all this mess
when they noticed the scale of the infiltration, the heads of some secret services tried to resign in shame but our president didn't accept because everything was already too chaotic and destabilised
NATO came up with the 'cancel the elections' plan which was supposed to be a last resort if everything else failed
two days before the last election round, when the diaspora was already queued up to vote (and a few hundred people already did), the elections were finally cancelled. Coup effectively ended
surprisingly, despite being a corrupt shithole and despite all this chaos, we survived what is now described to be the worse hybrid attack on a NATO/EU country
(but seriously, imagine the russian guys responsible for this. People were already voting, no democracy will ever do anything to disturb the voting process at this point, all pieces were in place, your agent was two steps away from winning. All these years of work will pay off handsomely. This was supposed to be the first type of all hands on deck attack and it was a resounding success, one NATO country down, Ukraine finished, whatever else... And then, casually and without hesitation the elections were cancelled and everyone was told to go back home. And there's nothing you can do to save your hard work from being trampled )
Funny detail. That burger plane I mentioned in my last post? The elections were cancelled just 40 minutes after it landed and most of that time was spent in traffic not in some meeting room Anyway, before that Merica also sent some specialists or something during these deranged weeks (and probably some CIA agents). Possibly the reason why the coup stated to progressively falter, there's one thing to fight our own secret services, a whole different thing to do this with CIA breathing down your neck Still, I have to give credit to our own (non-traitor) intelligence agents too, they fought with all they have and did their job well and managed to drag us all away from the cliff's edge
Yesterday evening, or night, another murican plane landed in Bucharest, probably to help us with the potential upcoming civil unrest and violence that will totes happen just because Putin wants it
The 'revolution'
Since Russia is a slav country surrounded by other slav and muslim countries they dumbly assumed that all these people that were convinced to vote for Georgescu would also be willing to get beaten up by the cops for him. Clearly they have no idea what country they're messing with
obviously, all his supporters (and bots) were wiped into a frenzy because of the now lost elections, screaming about rights and democracy and fascism and communism and whatever
on top of all this anger came some weird conspiracy theories: Biden wants to use Romania to drag NATO into war in order to remain a dictator forever, Moldova declared war on Transnistria and we'll join them with our army overnight, the state will start rounding up men to send them to Ukraine, martial law will be declared so our president will become a dictator etc. Anyway, lots of scary shit and these morons actually believed it
a huge mass of angry and scared people are the perfect recipe for a nasty protest right? Add our actual nazi groups (armed and trained militias) and some mercenaries usually fighting in third world shitholes joining in and you get an actual revolution
yesterday, the funniest shit happened, and that was the last part of this plan, the final moment before the bloodshed will start. Georgescu appeared in some livestream and said to his supporters that the elections weren't actually cancelled, because in some purely freeman of the land fashion, the decree from the Constitutional Court wasn't signed properly and wasn't published on their site therefore it's not an actual binding declaration. In fact, the globalist state is lying to them all, the elections still happen normally, just that his supporters are tricked to stay at home so he can lose the elections. So, they must all still go and vote.
the idea here was: hundreds if not thousands of people gather in the streets to vote, they can't vote because the elections are cancelled, they get angry and the police (already tense due to the whole coup thing) panic and start beating up people, the nazis then jump to defend them with guns and swords and everything descends into violence
The actual results?
...a huge army of supporters have gathered to to vote for Goergescu! Fear them!
(notice that messed up flag)
20 in the country
100 at Viena
30 at Paris and Rome
They seem more confused than angry... yeah civil wars aren't exactly our thing...
In the meantime, all the hardcore nazis that came to Bucharest to fight the police were arrested before crossing into the capital As soon as the elections were cancelled the cops descended on all the known nazis (both the infamous ones and new r-slurs that posted threats on TikTok after Georgescu's rise to fame). They confiscated lots of weapons (mostly knives and swords because guns are rare here). And the ones that managed to hide have been caught now.
Even some actual militias tried to join. We have a relatively large number of mercenaries fighting in Africa and the Middle East for some reason (large for a balkan shithole that had nothing to do ever with other continents anyway). Some leader active in Congo has been arrested for trying to bring 'dozens of weapons, two guns and lots of explosives' into Bucharest during the night.
Here's the badass action hero guy:
And here is him obediently following the cops to the police station:
Mercenarul Horatiu Potra, saltat si incatusat de mascati pic.twitter.com/tBFqy1AE04
β aktual24.ro (@ak24ro) December 8, 2024
So, the whole thing was a massive failure and a huge waste of money, resources and time for Russia The authorities are still in high alert for tonight, but it seems that the worst has passed To our surprise, and delight, America reacted immediately when we called for help and held our hand throughout all this nightmare
Best part for the last In the most embarrassing turns of events ever our presidential candidates decided to all send love letters to Trump for frick knows what reason
First our nazi russian agent
Thank you @elonmusk for the "heck" you mentioned. We need peace and democracy and that's the "heck" they are upsest about, but - In God we trust! pic.twitter.com/5WG0lAvNmw
β CΔlin Georgescu OFFICIAL ACCOUNT (@CG_Romania) December 7, 2024
Then his gypsy nazi friend
Whatβs happening in π·π΄ is a disgrace, @DonaldTrumpJr.
β π·π΄ George Simion π²π© (@georgesimion) December 7, 2024
Romanian people clearly chose a sovereignist, patriotic, and peaceful future. Yet, Soros globalists have other plans for us.
This spring we have one last chance.
We need your support - for #freedom! @DonaldJTrump @elonmusk
And then our LGBT Soros feminazi candidate
President @realDonaldTrump, you have all my respect for the great things you have done, and will continue to do, to put America first and for your continuous fight for the American people. You are a true leader of the people, just like me.
β Elena Lasconi (@ElenaLasconi) December 7, 2024
I share your belief that the people and⦠pic.twitter.com/rEHgbHmb6w
I literally never felt such a bone deep second hand embarrassment since middle school The only parties who didn't pull such an r-slured move were our status quo parties and I think I'll vote for them next elections because they're the only ones who understand how diplomacy works in the first place
All in all, EU is pissed, NATO is worried, after all if such a hidden network existed here then other similar networks could be planted for other countries, all waiting to be activated at the right moment, and according to some diplomats even Trump is pissed. I mean, imagine starting your presidency with all sorts of ideas for your country's problems only to have to sort through multiple eastern european conflicts because Russia can't keep it's hand to itself
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The Russians clearly had a genius master plan. However, they made one mistake. They relied on Romanians to accomplish anything
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Romania
Roman = Italians = lazy
Romani = cigans = lazy
Imagine expecting this country to riot !r-slurs
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Romanians will steal their rights back, one wallet at a time
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That's Albania's destiny
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Exactly, imagine being this stupid
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remember the germans lost the war because they relied on their romanian flanks
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That was pure german autism though, romanian commanders were saying for months that they were overstretched and the red army massing tanks only for wehrmacht to go " it's fine bro"
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Wrong, aryan supersoldiers would have won that fight
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God just imagine the frustration as a Romanian trying to report this to the German bureaucracy.
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even romanians know not to rely on romanians
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Woah a whopping two guns
Total gun count in Europe may finally reach double digits
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Yeah, they weren't even real guns apparently
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Gypsies are too busy shrinking people
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Reminds me of that time Germany relied on the Romanians to guard their flank at Stalingrad.....
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I unironically love reading your posts, they are informative with just the right amount of wit and your marsey placements are impeccable. Keep up the good work. π
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Thanks, I was worried this one was too dry
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U can give it to me dry anytime bby πππ
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Ok Romanian where did you steal this one?
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N-no where, I swear boss
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Implying OP is anything other than a trying to reframe this whole narrative. No it's totally trying to run a TikTok coup and being valiantly foiled by CIA heroes , not a Western alphabet collaboration to prevent a democratic election from occurring.
You really think that anyone from is posting here? They don't even have internet there, just mountains of stolen bicycles and cellphones imported from the rest of Europe.
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Idc it was a nice read so I choose to believe it
He has a romanian flag next to his name, r-slur.
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Do yourself a favor, open your door next time you hear a knock
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I don't think they were expecting to fail in Romania after they successfully tricked so many western countries Good thing our politicians are all corrupt
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I'm amazed your supreme court pulled the just say no meme and it worked
But then I remembered that if our court did the same it would work too
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Yeah, it sucks doesn't it?
It's not even the first time our Court orders unconstitutional things and no one ever did anything about it, so they are getting bolder every year
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Amazing story. 8 years of preparation, an extensive collaboration between Russia and China, so much time and money spent on cultivating and bribing assets, and it all falls apart in 3 days.
I kneel, Romania is the one true bulwark that protects Europe from the eastern hordes
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At the end of the day, it does not look like your country is that incompetent. At least somebody made the right call as soon as he could.
Questions. This does not look like your oppositions are that invested in having the guy on, since the showing was pitiful as you have noted. Are Romanians really checked out on the political theater in the country?
I'm glad the United States were there to help out her allies.
I can see that. Hopefully this would mean more people who are against the "Axis of Resistance" would have his ears.
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Yeah, we're lucky if a third of the country bothers to vote. Our elections are stolen (or at least tampered with) literally every time so no one really cares at this point
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That is pretty sad, but ironically also saved your country this time. Really weird how things work.
It really seems that while Russians infiltration is much worse than previously imagined (how many times has this phrase been said), they have serious problem in getting actual support.
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I think we're just not fit for being a democracy so our current political system is our best bet
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Becoming a democracy is a never-ending task. I hope it will be better for you.
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A good read, but I can't help to wonder how much of a masterplan Russia really had here.
They obviously are meddling with NATO (and not only) countries as much as they can, but that does not mean they accomplish much. Brexit as you mentioned was something they wanted to happen, but it's fair to assume it would have happened with their influence or not.
So I do wonder if he was really a glowie, or just a shizo they wanted to use. And how many votes were really stolen. After all, since we all know Russia does funky shit, it's possible to blame them for things they did not neceserailly do.
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Thats my problem with this line of thinking. Can online influence campaigns really sway voters in any meaningful way? Brexit voters were led to believe, by their own politicians, that voting for Brexit would stop London from being converted into a kebab shop. That was certainly a lie, but the lie didn't come from Russia.
If social media campaigns are enough to change election results, then why did the US vote for Trump despite our entire news media constantly saying he was Hitler or whatever? I don't think people listen to online noise as much as this post implies, and I dont believe Russia's social media shenanigans are likely very effective.
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At the same time, the impression I got from @FourthEggnog in the previous post was that the campaign was almost exclusively run on social media platforms and he wasn't really considered likely to even pass through the first round of voting. If people didn't listen to online noise, they might not have known about him at all.
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Yeah, he didn't fulfilled multiple conditions to candidate and just came out of nowhere. He didn't had a single mainstream media interview and most of his CV is false. It's just weird
Also, we are stupid enough to get manipulated by TikTok, it's just that most people are too lazy to actually take to the streets. But more people than reported actually believe all the propaganda, they just don't want to die for it
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True, things are really murky right now and our politicians will have no problems taking advantage of the chaos to spin things in their favor. Most people are panicked because it was an unusual move from Russia and don't know what to expect now. We'll see what new information appears in the next weeks/months
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i just dislike the MENA immigrants.
russia did not plant this in my head,
the thousands of criminals did
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Are you sure the Romanian powers that be aren't just coping about this dude's popularity? Is it really foreign influence from countries already proven to be incompetent?
Sounds to me like -- Random guy more popular than established old farts with viral marketing, government upsetti
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Even other NATO countries confirmed Unless they are all trying to find an excuse to attack Russia I guess
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Like how they confirmed Iraq's WMDs? This is 100% a NATO glowie vs Russian glowie showdown whoever wins Romanians lose (and that's a good thing)
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They confirmed it in good faith
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There is no confirmation. It's no different than all the stories of EU fricks up. Telling it's Russian fault it's their standard excuse at this point. You also added China but no official claimed China took part and China taking part in it is way more likely than Russian.
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You literally fall for the most obvious anti-Russian Western propaganda everytime Sal
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@Sal is back?
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Yes his new username is @WeihnachtenSalvador
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@WeihnachtenSalvador is this true?
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Oh
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We had our and murica's ambassador speaking about this, which is where most of my information came from And multiple other countries reacted with similar messages. Most things are kept secret for now since the investigation is still ongoing.
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If they knew everything like they suggested then they were his collaborators. They cancelled it on the very last moment when they realised he was going to win. If they had any real proofs he would been already in jail and journ*lists would already been showing information.
What they are doing is fabricating reasons to cancel him.
But since Trump won and seems to not mind that guy things could go interesting ways.
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This isn't Russia, it's called due process.
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I have no idea about Russian laws but have some knowledge about European one and civil code in general. And as I remember it's innocent until proven other wise. They cancelled the whole results on "Assumptions" that's goes against the whole fundamental of civil laws.
And since you know fancy words like "due process" I am sure you will be able to show real rules he broke right ?
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Election isn't a person, dummy.
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They cancelled with excuse that one candidate got more time on tiktok than others. That would mean to get rid of Trump Biden just had to buy more advertisements on tiktok for Trump and then cancel the election.
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But Trump likes NATO?
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Got a stream link?
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https://m.defenseromania.ro/adrian-zuckerman-fostul-ambasador-al-sua-romania-scoasa-din-prapastie-in-ultimul-moment-cei-care-sunt-in-spatele-atacului-rus-trebuie-adusi-in-fata-justitiei_631499.html
https://stirileprotv.ro/stiri/actualitate/interviu-fostul-ambasador-al-sua-adrian-zuckerman-guvernul-romaniei-trebuie-sa-invoce-articolul-patru-din-nato.html
https://old.reddit.com/r/Romania/comments/1h90ixl/serviciile_de_informa%C8%9Bii_pline_de_simpatizan%C8%9Bi/
I think these are the links if you want to translate them
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Why do you hate Romania?
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Their glowies are incompetent too lol
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You don't say.
At least when US doees a "military operation" they get the fapital in 3 months.
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IDK bro that would be weird, usually nATO is super pro russia
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They overstepped in our case I guess
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Yeah, Russia try to influence an election? What is this every single country in South America or any part of Eastern Europe? Come on guys that's only something they've constantly done since they killed that czar guy.
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The whole point is that Russia has fallen a long way.
It wasn't even strong in your day, Ronald
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Yeah every south and central American country just chose to be communist spontaneously.
"No it was just a red scare. Reddit told me. Yeah they infiltrated the fbi and cia and the Manhattan project and stole the bomb and funded communist groups everywhere in the world but it was all just a big scare"
Oh crazy
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Holy moly grandpa let's get you back to the home. You're missing Matlock
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Lol b-word response.
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Yeah I'd believe this wholesale if not for the
part.
In the 90s Russia underwent near-total state collapse. Anyone betting there'd be a Russian sphere to get back into in the first place and one which entry will be decided by skulduggery instead of war would be a goombling king. It sounds a lot like the enemy is weak but strong r-sluration. Especially in Romania and the conspiracies of the fall of communism being an Muscovite vs anti-Muscovite fight within their glowies.
That said because this is the first place I've read any updates on this from I'll parrot this uncritically from now on.
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They weren't planning this ever since communism failed. They were just angry that we distanced ourselves from Russia and jumped at the opportunity to get us back into their arms One of the reason this coup failed was because the officials that supported it were old and had some pretty outdated outlook on things
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Reality is Russia, don't really care about Romania. There is just no way they were going to put more effort in Romania than Moldova.
They blame tiktok but Russia don't own tiktok and they never blamed China
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You need ownership of the social media platform to create a bot army?
TIL it's the Google shareholders shilling those fake financial advisors on the YouTube comment section
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If he had no direct contact with Russia or China it's not his fault because in such case Biden would need to ask some chunk to buy advertising for Trump and then cancel election by saying look chunks supported Trump.
They cancelled it at the moment they realised he is going to win. If they don't jail him and let him take part of the election again he is going to win again because:
As you see only 14% people trust the gov. Democrats been telling for years that Trump is Russian asset it didn't stopped him beating foids
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Yes I do agree, those are multiple compelling reasons for Russia to make a bot army to boost his candidature.
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He is blaming China, he says they helped even before Douyin was expanded but it's presented as a favour to Russia.
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Russia doesn't need Romania, Syria, Krusk, Moscow...
Russia can be a world superpower from a tiny island in the Arctic ocean, and I agree.
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S'up r-slur? You could had told Russia is interested in Moldova. Romanian and Russian have no special relationships like Russian and Poland and Baltics. During Soviet Union Russian cared the least about Romania compared to all other commie blocks countries
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NATO most important land is Turkey. Also what you mean pointless strip of land with nothing in it ? Donbas is the richest part of Ukraine and Russian are about to enter Dnipor that would mean 90% of Ukrainian minerals that are worth 14 trillions
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the man wrote down 0 euro as declared funding xD
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I want to have frick with you
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I'm not fully convinced something trending on TikTok can flip an election. How many people even use TikTok in Romania? A bunch of zoomers swung the vote?
If it is possible then your countries politicians suck or had no solid support before
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Surprisingly lots of people use TikTok here, apparently we have rural boomers who only know how to give and answer phone calls and browse the funny video app
Yes, everyone hates our politicians. But also we're the country with the lowest IQ in Europe and the biggest illiteracy rate Both options are just as likely.
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Bulgaria also flipped back and forth over parties multiple times in a few years and it's next door
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either way, romanians come out of this looking like r-slurred mud people
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It's our country and only we can coup it
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