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After Duke Lacrosse, how to we balance belief with innocent until proven guilty? : r/AskPolitics

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Since 2006, a team of Duke Lacrosse players had their lives upended. A black woman accused them of raping her with no evidence.

:marseysuspicious: This :marseymayo: cracker took enormous pleasure needlessly putting the word 'black' in there :marseyeyeroll:

How do we balance the "Believe All Women" movement with our civil liberty of "Innocent until proven guilty?"

Yes, how do we balance that flash-in-the-pan twitter bleating movement with one of the founding principles of common law? :marseyhmm: conundrum


"Believe All Women" doesn't mean to just accept them at their word and punish the men they accuse without evidence- it means to investigate the allegation, no matter who they are or who they are accusing.

We didn't actually mean 'defund the police' when we said 'defund the police'. :marseyjerkoffsmile:

"Often"...no. This is a big story because of how rare it is. Accusations like this upend the life of the accuser too. A lot of women don't come forward with true allegations because of what they'll have to deal with.

Yes women famously hate attention :really:

"Believe all women" was just a political slogan. What it really meant was "Believe all women who accuse Republicans" and once it started getting applied to people on the left it stopped being used.

Show me some of these high profile democrats r*pe convicted felons, oh wait, you don't have any. Both sides is your best defense?

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17343009480661104.webp

never heard of him!

Also, people use a single case to start a discussion is laughable. Millions of women are r*ped each year, but hey, what about those guys who got falsely accused once? Such an unfair and disingenuous world view.

Because if we publicised every single r*pe case people might start to :marseynoooticer: notice some things :marseywrongthonk:

I'm just glad normal people find your ideology laughable.

"I'm just glad the conservatives who like me aren't very good at critical thinking and mostly juts buy into propaganda agree with me that your reasonable ideology is laughable." Fixed that for you.

Fixed that for you :soyjakanimeglasses:

"Believe Women" means to take their claims seriously and investigate. It stems from claims being ignored.

No it doesn't. That's not what those words mean. A belief doesn't require investigation.

You're taking it too literally. You have to apply common sense.

You have to apply common sense to my r-slurred prog slogan :marseyindignant: I didn't actually mean it. Unless I said 'black lives matter', in which case this position is reversed. :marseydisconcerting:

If your slogan needs explaining, it's a poor slogan :marseyboomer:

I don't think you understand the point of a slogan. Try to think a little.

When I said 'gas the jewish chads, race war now' it was actually a very subtle and nuanced statement about in-group preference, it should be immediately obvious that I do not want a race war. :marseybrainlet:

No, if you believe the woman automatically you are passing judgment of guilty on the accused.

Nope. Only a Sith deals in absolutes.

OH SHIT THIS NEIGHBOR SAID THE LINE https://media.tenor.com/Yuk3X_AikGAAAAAx/simpsons-bart.webp FROM THAT SPACESHIT FILM

:#soysnoo4: :#soysnoo2: :#marseystarwars: :#soysnoo5:

THIS IS JUST LIKE MY SOY WARS FRANCHISE :#marseypopcorn:

I never understood the rationale behind "Believe All Women"

The rationale is that r*pe is one of the least likely crimes to be investigated, nevermind convicted.

HMM YES @Christmasthedral WONDER WHY THE POLICE MIGHT NOT BE OVERLY ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT PURSUING A SERIOUS CRIME CASE BASED ON THE MERE WORD OF A WOMAN WHO IS PROMISED INTERNATIONAL FAME AND SYMPATHY IN EXCHANGE FOR NOTHING. TRANS LIVES MATTER

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