EFFORTPOST Into the K-hole, Episode I: Abuse or Part of the Industry? (Those gooks really tried this shit in America)

No it's not about ketamine.

Introduction

In the west, Kpop is typically derided. Oftentimes this is because it is creatively bankrupt and consists of cookie cutter songs and artists. Other times it is hated for the immaturity/insanity of its western fan base (teenage girls, trannies, and neets.) Still more people hate it because of the oppressive nature of its industry. Whatever your reason, it is clear that kpop is slop. Goyslop, if you will. However, it is Goyslop of the highest order. Made to be agreeable to the largest audience possible's most base instincts. This combined with the nature of the industry (more on this later), means that it is ripe for drama; and yet I very rarely see kpop drama on this site.

:marseychonkerfoid: :ramonajak: :femboy: :coomer:

Typical kpop fans

Now I don't like Kpop, but the drama potential of kpop became apparent to me a few weeks ago when I stumbled upon the news of Newjeans trying to cancel their contract. I spent 3 days gorging myself upon the news and it's associated buildup. To be frank with you, I became addicted to kpop. Not the music of course, but the drama surrounding it. I had a desire to post about Newjeans and share that delicious drama with you all; However there was a massive amount of background information to sift through and organize. I realized the full deets would require a series, and when I realized that, well, I started seeing DC in my eyes.

:marseybooba: :marseycoin:

However, I am lazy. I don't want start a full series if it won't pay off, so I figured I would create a prototype, a pilot episode if you will. If you all enjoy this post, and I get my goombling funds, then I'll begin work on the Newjeans saga in earnest (with a few filler episodes thrown in, of course)

First off, a few warnings and disclaimers:


1. A lot of kpop groups have minors in them. I will be posting images and videos of various kpop groups throughout this series. If you see :pedobear: next to an image or video, that means it contains someone who is CURRENTLY a minor. You have been warned.

2. Kpop sucks from a musical standpoint, but it has ear worms. I will link to songs, concert performances, and music videos as part of this series, but I would avoid listening to the music if possible. Otherwise you'll end up like me and have Crazy by Le Sserafim stuck in your head for two weeks, a fate worse than death. Songs that I think are a big risk for this will be marked with a :worm: next to the link.

An example of these two points:

these ones are all over 18, I just wanted to provide an example

:pedobear:

(Pictured above: 5 Korean shaman perform a sissification ritual on their unsuspecting male audience)

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(The shaman's evil chant)

3. As I said earlier, I just started my research about a month ago, so I'm very likely to get things wrong. This will be compounded by the fact that the really juicy shit is found on Korean sites and forums, so I will either use Google translate, or the translation of random freaks on the internet. if I do get something wrong, don't worry, it's working as intended :marseymisinformation:


Without further adieu,..

...Let us go down...

... The K-hole

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The Drama

If you've made it this far and know anything about kpop, I'm sure you're wondering why I used an image of Twice. It's because they tangentially relate to this story. How? Well to understand that you need to know who/what JYP is.

Background

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Jin-Young Park

JYP stands for Jin-Young Park, a South Korean singer who rose to prominence in the 1990's and parlayed his success into his own media conglomerate, which he humbly named JYP Entertainment (hereafter JYPE). JYPE is one of the 4 major companies that dominate the South Korean music industry. Their most successful artists are Twice, Itzy, and NMIXX (no not the sex cult).

For years JYPE has tried to break into the American market, with only middling success. Their most recent attempt was actually about a week and a half ago when Twice released a comeback that featured Megan THEE Stallion on the title track. One of their recent schemes has been to launch Kpop style American groups under a brand new division, JYP USA.

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Strategy - Twice feat. Megan Thee Stallion

Now something you need to understand about the kpop industry is that in a weird way, it's almost like professional sports, having the following things in common.

1. Opportunities and success are largely based on God given talent. (If you're not a slim rice foid who can dance/sing/rap better than everyone else you don't have a shot.)

2. The window of opportunity is very slim, If you don't make it big by 30 you probably never will.

3. At the highest levels, there is a LOT of money at stake. (For example, the exclusive contract Newjeans is trying to get out of likely has a penalty of $200-400 million.)

For these reasons, kpop idols go through a sort of training period before they actually are put into a group and debuted. The idols essentially drop out of school and join a training program, where they learn how to sing, dance, rap, and be charming in front of a camera. Just like young athletes and their coaches trying to make it big, these schools have a very "whatever needs to be done attitude" to training, with horror stories abounding. This is considered standard practice in the industry, meaning that almost every kpop groups you see was carefully planned out years in advance.

JYP USA planned to continue this proud gook tradition with their flagship girl group VCHA, a group formed in 2023 from the winners of a web show A2K (America2Korea) on youtube, where JYP himself selected members to form an American kpop group. However, they ran into one small problem: The breakable American spirit.


The Lawsuit

:pedobear: https://i.rdrama.net/images/1734518355736788.webp

Kiera Grace Madder, 17, (stage name KG Crown) was one of the lucky girls who won A2K and had her dreams come true of becoming a pop star. At least, that is what she thought before entering into the Korean style training system. In May 2024, after enduring months of abuse, KG decided she couldn't take any more, and requested out of her contract. JYP USA refused, citing. that she owed them over $500,000 for training and production costs. Seeing no other option KG filed a lawsuit on December 7th in the state of California to terminate her contract. The complaints of abuse are summarized below:

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https://i.rdrama.net/images/17345151852675235.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17345151856359468.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17345151859638464.webp

Now the interesting thing here is that none of this is illegal in South Korea, where JYPE is based. A court there ruled that idols were contractors and not employees, meaning that they were not entitled to protections granted to employees under South Korean labor laws. However, VCHA was based in California, which not only has strict labor laws, but EXTREMELY strict child labor laws, due to the history of child actor abuse in Hollywood.

The general consensus online seems to be that most of the allegations of abuse will go nowhere, but the complaints regarding working hours, denial of profits, and the $500,000 debt are likely to be decided in KG's favor due to California Labor laws.

The Reaction

/r/kpop reacts

IG post

https://old.reddit.com/r/kpop/comments/1h94lj7/vcha_kg_posts_an_instagram_story_update_regarding/

JYPE response

https://old.reddit.com/r/kpop/comments/1h9w7w1/jyp_usa_issues_statement_regarding_the_lawsuit/

/r/kpop_uncensored reacts

IG post

https://old.reddit.com/r/kpop_uncensored/comments/1h94n0n/kgs_instagram_story_reveals_she_has_filed_a/

Summary of legal complaint from KG

https://old.reddit.com/r/kpop_uncensored/comments/1h94z98/summary_of_document_detailing_jypes_mistreatment/

JYPE response

https://old.reddit.com/r/kpop_uncensored/comments/1h9w3k1/statement_from_jyp_usa_on_vchas_twitter/

Random gook reaction (translated by /mu/, retrieved from desuarchive):

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https://i.rdrama.net/images/17345150330637534.webp

Twitter Reacts

Based Twice fans reacts to calls for a boycott, VCHAcels sneed

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:marseykneel:

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>No you HAVE to boycott!

:soycrytalking:

>Kpop?

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Outro

How this will all play out remains to be seen, the most likely course of action in that JYPE realizes that this whole thing is poison to any future attempts to gain a foothold in the American market and just cuts the mayofoid loose without retardedly trying to recoup its "debt".

If you enjoyed this post let me know :marseyupvote2: and I will begin work on the Newjeans saga.

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!jannies please mark this as an effort post, I forgot to do it before creating it as a fricking draft, and I don't know if I can after that.

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The effort post thing is a request, you don't get to mark it yourself :marseyhmmhips:

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I know, I forgot to check the fricking box :marseyspecial: and I couldn't find a fricking way to notify them after posting, hence the fricking ping

Thanks

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:@thereindeerfromberserkpat#:

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>CEO of a corporation literally called gyp is a Zionist

:marseyxd#: !dramatards you can't make this shit up

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:#chadjewrentfree:

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:marseyburgers: wtf are you taking about

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Have you ever been gypped?

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Have you considered at all the etymology

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All hideous scammers are the same

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Gypped is gypsy derived

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liars and thieves

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These kids today like to say "nig this" and "BIPOC that" and say we're old-fashioned for being not being racism, but we still have to teach them basic principles. :marseydisagree:

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Dingdong suck my bigbong

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I never heard of K-Pop before a month ago but btw here's my opinion of JYP.

:#marseysurejan:

Seriouspost tho: I fricking hate k-pop (and j-pop). There's a lot of good music coming out of these countries and it's not this slop. Even in the rare cases where they do make something good there's always some fricked up scandal like when Crayon Pop got everything stolen from them

or Park Bom got accused of being a drug dealer because she had an adderall prescription and gooks are unable to handle their stimmies.

(We should have threatened war over this. I'm so fricking sick of gooks acting like they have any authority over Korean-Americans.)

This is why based middle-aged people like me and my ajumma friends listened to trot even before it was cool.

(Best moment in my life was when my roommate was cranking this up really loud and I came and sang it with her. :marseyboomer:)

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>There's a lot of good music coming out of these countries and it's not this slop.

Don't really know about Korean music but hard agree on Japan. Jazz and funk are fricking huge influences over there and I love it. Zutomato was fricking my most played artist on Spotify this year.

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:#marseysax: :#marseyjam: :#marseyvibing: !asians !anime !weebs !music

Sucks how East Asia as a whole has an ocean of extremely creative and incredible artists and media of all genres, but the Westoid-friendly mainstream megacorp sloperalds always drown out the good passionate stuff that deserves attention. !truthnuke

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You only like Lupin III because it stars your favorite Brazilian

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Exactly what I mean. Also ska.

Everything is about ska. Always.

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>ska

Loves me ska punk

I don't even know what to characterize this as, but I like it

:marse#yjam:

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https://i.rdrama.net/images/1734680164795471.webp

:#marseythumbsup:

The second guy is way too soft. The guy with the effeminate voice and dyed brown hair. (Why does anybody do that? That never looks good on Japanese of either s*x ever.)

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^ slop :taynod:

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Yuck.

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:#marseyvibing:

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>Zutomato was fricking my most played artist on Spotify this year.

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Inside joke is so good. Love it.

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Neighba this shit gay too. Listen to real Jap music pleb.

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The moral of this story is that mayo foids are weak and can't handle going on a diet.


Joking aside, it's interesting to see Korean company clash with western culture. Espeically how apparently plenty of people on Korean forums are defending said companies approach and blame the failure on it not accounting for westerners being kitties.

I would actually respect Korean discipline and dedication to work if not for the fact that those same things are driving them to extinction.

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I'm kinda amazed they were dumb enough to try the corporate-debt-forever-slave tactic in America. They must not have bothered hiring American lawyers or something.

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There's just no way. They definitely had at least one American lawyer who told them doing this is r-slurred, they just ignored them.

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Him*

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Wouldn't be the first fricking time. They probably blew several billion dollars delaying the entry of k-dramas to the US market for years because they wouldn't listen to the white people giving them advice. :marseyraging:

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!music, they heard a recording of "Sixteen Tons" and assumed nothing had changed in the past 80 years. :marseycountry: :marseyjamming: :marseymilesdavis:

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Even back in Korea the courts are letting some of them out of their indentured servitude contracts lately. Having an industry where you try to build up a close emotional connection between young girls and millions of your citizens and then victimize the girls and don't pay them anything... I'm not asian but I can calculate the math in my mind about how this is not gonna work long term. Before social media they could just blacklist anybody who complained (look at TVXQ) but the system is falling apart now.

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Joking aside,

Did you just.... /uj ? On rdrama??

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!metashit

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The Dramatard is immunized against all dangers: one may call him a scoundrel, parasite, cuck, soyboy, it all runs off him like water off a raincoat. But call him a Redditor and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: "I've been found out."

!commenters

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I would say "anyway" or "anyhow" usually, but I felt like doing something else this time. :marseyshrug:

I'll try to do better next time, I guess.

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:#marseyshrugpat:

It's okay, bb, but you :marseyclapping2: should :marseyclapping2: do :marseyclapping2: better. :marseyclapping2:

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uj/ rj/ uj/ rj/ uj/ rj/ uj/ rj/ uj/ rj/ uj/ rj/ uj/ rj/ uj/ rj/ uj/ rj/ uj/ rj/ uj/ rj/ uj/ rj/ uj/ rj/ uj/ rj/ uj/ rj/ uj/ rj/ uj/ rj/ uj/ rj/ uj/ rj/ uj/ rj/ uj/ rj/ uj/ rj/ uj/ rj/ uj/ rj/ uj/ rj/

:marseycoomer: mmmhnngggg

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Crackkkers aren't surviving much either especially those lazy wogs that siesta and work 3 hours a day

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(I just skimmed sorry if i missed something)

I remember "cookie" by newjeans was released when they were underage, the song which has VERY sexual undertones (im not sure if they r still underage, if so darn) like "come taste my cookie" or whatever. Very fricked of the kpop industry. Take a listen:

:pedobear:


A few youtube comments pointed this out aswell:

"They're extremely talented but they should have waited a few years to give them a song w these lyrics"

-sunoooo, youtube user

"JUSTICE FOR NEW JEANS"

-multiple users throughout comment section

"This is so addictive- I'll just pretend I never saw the lyrics."

-Berry0_0_, a youtube user


Ofcourse there are the supportive comments aand the untranslatable japanese comments as well. Im sure if you scrolled to the bottom there would be creeps, too. I most agree with this comment, submitted on youtubr by user (idk i lost the page so i dont havs his name)

"This is clearly an incredibly dark and cruel industry if the company felt more than comfortable giving a young girl group a song like this. I pray these girls stay blessed and protected despite the dangers of fame.."


Ofcourse i was only skimming and saw 'newjeans' and 'underage' so i had to point this out.

!kpop !commenters

https://media.tenor.com/8u8NAGuma9MAAAAx/ditto-lq.webp

>So Tl;dr: Newjeans is a very talented girl group, but HYBE labels should have waited to submit a song, cookie, which they were too young to preform

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>Take a listen:

:#chadno: https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/121/235/652.jpg !pedohunters

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i was using it as proof, not in a libertarian way

!pedohunters

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ik baby I'm not #MeToo'ing you or anything :marseyandjesus: !pedohunters

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ohkay

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On MTV Britney Spears was dancing around in a miniskirt saying hit me baby one more time and 80s bands had whole songs about this crap.

I'm curious as to why youtube "people" act scandalized by this and continue to listen to this garbage, as if the act of complaining will erase their browser history.

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reading mein kampf on the subway and shaking my head the whole time so people know I disagree

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lmao true,,,,,,,,,,,

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Look at the kid too young to remember the scandal around Brittany's 'one more time' lyrics and vid

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I remember in 2022 when this first came out. I would scroll the YouTube comment section of the video, and see comments with over a hundred replies where fans would passionately argue with other fans whether the lyrics, nature of the video, and choreography was sexually exploitive. Interesting to see two sides of a fandom fight each other. It's clear to me personally that Min Hee Jin knew what she was doing with putting a 14 year old in that kind of position (I believe one of the members was 14 in 2022 I'm not sure). Not sure why so many fans were so confident in defending her when even though her reputation isnt nearly as bad then as now, it was still bad due to the fact that from what I remember she was shown to have "pedophilic art" portrayed on the walls of her house, as well as past comments she's made about underage members of the groups she's managed before New Jeans. The excuse that the other side of the fandom would make defending the song/music video saying that "baking a cookie means burning a CD in Korean, you're just a projecting America-Centric xenophobic libertarian. This song is for the fans, not creeps." when the nature of the music video doesn't resemble burning a CD whatsoever.

Similar happened a year later with New Jean's releasing a song called "ETA", Fans and watchers of the group, especially fans from Spain called out Min Jee Hin (former manager of New Jeans I believe) for marketing the song to be vaguely associated with ETA the Spanish terrorist group, they believed the marketing of ETA was far too close to symbolizing/referencing the terrorist group for it to be unreasonable to think that they arent solely coincidences (Said references being: The teaser photo for the single included Spanish names that were entirely unrelated to New Jeans, but can be traced back to ETA the spanish group, The emphasis on cars throughout the music video and teasers knowing that ETA the group has performed car bombs, setting the music video in Spain, the fact that the day that ETA was released is a day that has connection to ETA group). I also remember fans of the group passionately arguing with other fans of the group, one side of the fandom saying that it was deliberate and Min Hee Jin is sabotaging New Jeans assumed to be for the sake of all publicity is good publicity, another side of the fandom said that it was solely coincidental, and accusing the other fans of secretly hating New Jeans.

It seems this group has quite a history of controversy due to their insane manager.

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There was cds floating around in the music video, but no one really would be stupid enough to believe that lie. it was obviously pedophillic, and using a literal girl who just got into her teenage years is disgusting. And its also sad that this would be SUCH a good song ig they just waited for them to become of age. Even 18 year olds being used would be a bit weird.

Also, i bet if you asked a korean, they would have no clue that "baking a cookie" was slang.

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Min Hee Jin was more than their manager, she was the CEO of the entire company that New Jeans was under. She's also a legendary producer in the kpop industry and New Jeans wouldn't be nearly as successful without her so I'm not surprised the idols and fans defend her despite the controversies.

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Didn't realize she was the whole CEO of HYBE. Truly brutal for everyone involved. :marseyitsover:

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No, she was the CEO of ADOR, a subsidiary of HYBE. And despite being a fricking nut job, MHJ is almost certainly more credible and reliable when it comes to running a company than the C-Suite in HYBE considering how they've mishandled the whole thing.

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:marseylaughpo!#undfist:

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'Now I don't like Kpop' [proceeds to make long af post about kpop with specific info only someone whos into kpop would know]

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a few weeks ago when I stumbled upon the news of Newjeans trying to cancel their contract. I spent 3 days gorging myself upon the news and it's associated buildup.

You don't understand, this (the Newjeans thing) is fricking one of the fricking most dramatic events of the fricking year and has been happening for months with almost no discussion on here. I seriously binge read /r/kpop_uncensored and /mu/ /kpg/ threads for days afterwards, and now they're both mainstays of my bored internet scrolling.

If you're sleeping on kpop drama, you're making a fricking mistake.

:#platymicdrop:

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Do a write-up on the Hannah Kobayashi shit

No it's not kpop but it involved: an abusive father (allegedly), a green card scam, a missing hapa druggie, suicide, divorce, instagram fights and family dysfunction

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:m#arseynotes:

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zoz

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zle

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zozzle

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Just like @Marco with :marseyfurry:

:marseythinkorino2:

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The boring truth is that most of my f*rry drama posts were taken from the farms

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Didn't read but

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and

this chick

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https://i.rdrama.net/images/17345483366226273.webp

cute but would never in a gorillion years give a dramaGOD like me a chance ;(

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Arr rook same

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wtf same?!

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Longpost phobia

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Do one about the kpop group apologizing for saying a word that sounded like BIPOC

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i am sorry :marseyqueencrown: for doing the wrongful

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!kpop according to some sources,

"The latest song accused of perpetuating anti-Black racism for containing non-English words that sound like racist slurs, "Darari" by Treasure, has been trending on TikTok over the past month. The sped-up segment of the song that's been circulating on the social media platform begins with the Korean words "nikka" ("λ‹ˆκΉŒ"), a conjunction, along with "niga" ("λ‹ˆκ°€"), which roughly translates to an informal use of the word "you" in English. TikTok users have lip-synced to the clip in videos, as seen in countless trends using popular songs, only to come under fire for mouthing what sounds like the N-word."

>Tl;dr, niga, nikka used in kpop, means "you". Funny thing, you ni-

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Have you tried apoligizing to known Israeli activist Brianna Wu for trying to raise money to fight antisemitism?

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candyboy:

karaoke scene:

Meanwhile, in China:

@J, some dance videos. I have more. MOOOOORE.

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Don't use the PRS Grinch for kpoop.

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I will.

:#marseyindignant:

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I do love dance videos thank you

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Reported by:

Ai can make better music fr

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I try to delete my report and say "wrong," but it pops up and asks to post a new report that's blank which I accidentally pressed each time.

:marseyrain:

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Good. :marseysoutherner:

But more brainwashed hot ricefoids :marseygeisha: and less whiny americans next time :taylorlorenzcrying:

Actually scratch that just keep on what you are doing. I know frick all about kpop and will learn everything from you. So far it seems like army boot camp for hot asians more than talent management.

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Tried to an hero with 42 NyQuil lmao. I call that a seeking attention attempt

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Honestly the fricking most dangerous thing about that is the fricking Tylenol. Probably equivalent to like a fricking thousand cumulative bottles of whiskey.

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It's the thing that can kill you for sure but it's slow and 99% of the staved off

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It was just a kid, I wouldn't doubt they were dumb enough to think it would work. I mean a couple makes you sleep, so a bunch will make you sleep forever. :marseyfoidretard:

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First: you are wasting your life

Second: thanks for the writeup, I've always assumed K-pop was the little brother of japanese idols but this confirms it. It seems they are at the spot idol companies were 20 years ago with draconian contracts and complete control over the talents. Interested to see how they'll change in the next few years.

Looking forward to the next part :marseyexcited:

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