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[๐Ÿค“๐Ÿ”˜๐Ÿ”˜๐Ÿ”˜๐Ÿ”˜] Democracy moment

https://old.reddit.com/r/neofeudalism/comments/1ho7izw/democracy_moment/

								

								

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"How do you know capitalism works better than communism.""Look at history!""Ok, should we also look at history to see if monarchy works better than democracy?""NOOO!!!! No more looking at history!!!" (14)

r/RoyalismSlander Royalism was very successful historically. (-1)

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"How do you know capitalism works better than communism.""Look at history!""Ok, should we also look at history to see if monarchy works better than democracy?""NOOO!!!! No more looking at history!!!" (14)

The vast majority of human progress occurred under monarchs (-1)

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Are you talking about World War I, literally the most shameful event in the history of monarchy as an institution and the catalyst that caused most politically powerful monarchies to start crumbling world wide? (13)

"What in tarnation, by not ceding ground to Adolf Hitler, you triggered him to start a destructive war! What a shameful display to democracy (Hitler was democratically elected)!" (-1)

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"What in tarnation, by not ceding ground to Adolf Hitler, you triggered him to start a destructive war! What a shameful display to democracy (Hitler was democratically elected)!" (-1)

Are you seriously mixing up World War I and World War II?? Hitler was a direct consequence of World War I which was a direct consequence of poor leadership by monarchists. (10)

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WW2, war of 1812, craziness during classical antiquity, Roman Republic etc.. (1)

So cleaning up monarchy's mess, a war between a republic and a monarchy, and a nation that started more wars as an empire than as a republic? Sounds about right. Did you forget that Europe was at war continuously for 1,500 years under monarchy? (6)

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With the new territories in the East... they would've been able to continue fighting. (1)

Ok, and? The people were being starved, around 750,000 people. That's a lot of non-military casualties. They were being pushed back, their propaganda said they weren't, but they were, and by 1917 luddendorf was already preparing for defeat. That's why they were already weakening the monarchy before the war even ended, they hoped that the entente would prefer a democracy. Austria Hungary would've been battered by Italy regardless, American troops weren't really there, and if Austria fell, than Germany would be by itself. The ottomans were already collapsing, and Bulgaria couldn't sustain itself (2)

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The biggest issue with democracy that I'm frankly not sure how to overcome is that it is simply not a winning strategy to do things that will be beneficial in the long run but hurt in the short term. On the contrary you seem to win and remain popular by for example running massive deficits that fund ballooning public sector jobs.

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You options are a 5% shit sandwich up too a 100% shitsandwich. Democracy is the 5% shisandwich

Jewish lives matter

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https://i.rdrama.net/images/17354979597d8i198PA4P_1A.webp

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It's why it's called the least bad option, sure you don't do a lot of things like long term planning well but at least you don't do far worse things like starting wars over your ego or killing all the sparrows

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it's only the best option :marseytrolleyproblemdrift: for developed economies that don't need to change much and have an educated middle :marseyfinger: class. for developing economies developmental dictatorships are the best.

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I guess the r-slurred russians voted themselves back into a dictatorship anyway so some truth there

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russia :marseytf2heavy: isn't a developmental dictatorship though. putin :marseyukrainerentfree: hasn't improved the economy at all except stabilized it with resource extraction.

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:#marseysalutesingapore:

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The least worse option is democracy with very limited power.

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Even better, you can make things worse on purpose to encourage people who oppose you to move somewhere else. That's what the hibernians did to Boston :marseythumbsup2:

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Cultural changes but western democracies seem to be encouraging a culture that only values short term solutions that create long term problems.

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I think it's because the individual voter quite reasonably only cares about how much is in their own wallet. Asking someone to face 10 years of hardship so that the economy of everyone can improve is just an impossible sell.

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+ most people aren't policy wonks and wouldn't even know e.g. what monetary policy is good/bad in the long/short term

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Also when people that r*ped the economy leave office they are remembered very fondly like Thatcher, Reagan and even like Karamanlis in Greece. People used to joke that under the New Democracy party people didn't know what the โ‚ฌ5 note looked like.

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Downmarseyd for Thatcher-phobia

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HOW DID THATCHER AND REAGAN R*PE THE ECONOMY? :marseyconfused:

I LOVE SUCKING PEEPEE :marseyflagitaly:

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With their peepeees

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With their peepeees

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SOMEHOW MILEI MANAGED TO CONVINCE MILLIONS OF ARGIES TO SUFFER SHORT TERM HARDSHIP FOR LONG TERM GAIN AND PULLED IT OFF :marseyshrug: SO IT'S NOT IMPOSSIBLE

I LOVE SUCKING PEEPEE :marseyexcited:

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Its because they were already suffering

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Yeah I am really impressed he managed to win, but his approval rate is already dipping :(

But I'm also not excited for our economy to get to Argentina levels of fricked before we even try to right the ship

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I think some people can deal with it but that percentage has rapidly shrunk with mass immigration from countries that only value short term solutions and things becoming more of a rat race

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Idk man this had been a steady trend since like the early 80s, I think this might be the one issue you can't blame immigrants for

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Its not blaming immigrants for its entirety rather its them adding to the issue.

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Well you are claiming that immigrants are worse per capita which I disagree with

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As opposite to which country?

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The best way to restrict its r-slurred parts is to decrease government's power over the social and economic spheres of life. Of course, voters hate this, but they're r-slurred and should be ignored.

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My solution has been an open democracy, but requires a rigorous exam to actually vote.

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