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"How do you know capitalism works better than communism.""Look at history!""Ok, should we also look at history to see if monarchy works better than democracy?""NOOO!!!! No more looking at history!!!" (14)

r/RoyalismSlander Royalism was very successful historically. (-1)

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"How do you know capitalism works better than communism.""Look at history!""Ok, should we also look at history to see if monarchy works better than democracy?""NOOO!!!! No more looking at history!!!" (14)

The vast majority of human progress occurred under monarchs (-1)

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Are you talking about World War I, literally the most shameful event in the history of monarchy as an institution and the catalyst that caused most politically powerful monarchies to start crumbling world wide? (13)

"What in tarnation, by not ceding ground to Adolf Hitler, you triggered him to start a destructive war! What a shameful display to democracy (Hitler was democratically elected)!" (-1)

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"What in tarnation, by not ceding ground to Adolf Hitler, you triggered him to start a destructive war! What a shameful display to democracy (Hitler was democratically elected)!" (-1)

Are you seriously mixing up World War I and World War II?? Hitler was a direct consequence of World War I which was a direct consequence of poor leadership by monarchists. (10)

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WW2, war of 1812, craziness during classical antiquity, Roman Republic etc.. (1)

So cleaning up monarchy's mess, a war between a republic and a monarchy, and a nation that started more wars as an empire than as a republic? Sounds about right. Did you forget that Europe was at war continuously for 1,500 years under monarchy? (6)

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With the new territories in the East... they would've been able to continue fighting. (1)

Ok, and? The people were being starved, around 750,000 people. That's a lot of non-military casualties. They were being pushed back, their propaganda said they weren't, but they were, and by 1917 luddendorf was already preparing for defeat. That's why they were already weakening the monarchy before the war even ended, they hoped that the entente would prefer a democracy. Austria Hungary would've been battered by Italy regardless, American troops weren't really there, and if Austria fell, than Germany would be by itself. The ottomans were already collapsing, and Bulgaria couldn't sustain itself (2)

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The biggest issue with democracy that I'm frankly not sure how to overcome is that it is simply not a winning strategy to do things that will be beneficial in the long run but hurt in the short term. On the contrary you seem to win and remain popular by for example running massive deficits that fund ballooning public sector jobs.

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It's why it's called the least bad option, sure you don't do a lot of things like long term planning well but at least you don't do far worse things like starting wars over your ego or killing all the sparrows

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it's only the best option :marseytrolleyproblemdrift: for developed economies that don't need to change much and have an educated middle :marseyfinger: class. for developing economies developmental dictatorships are the best.

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I guess the r-slurred russians voted themselves back into a dictatorship anyway so some truth there

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russia :marseytf2heavy: isn't a developmental dictatorship though. putin :marseyukrainerentfree: hasn't improved the economy at all except stabilized it with resource extraction.

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@X

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:#marseysalutesingapore:

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The least worse option is democracy with very limited power.

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Even better, you can make things worse on purpose to encourage people who oppose you to move somewhere else. That's what the hibernians did to Boston :marseythumbsup2:

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Cultural changes but western democracies seem to be encouraging a culture that only values short term solutions that create long term problems.

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I think it's because the individual voter quite reasonably only cares about how much is in their own wallet. Asking someone to face 10 years of hardship so that the economy of everyone can improve is just an impossible sell.

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+ most people aren't policy wonks and wouldn't even know e.g. what monetary policy is good/bad in the long/short term

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Also when people that r*ped the economy leave office they are remembered very fondly like Thatcher, Reagan and even like Karamanlis in Greece. People used to joke that under the New Democracy party people didn't know what the โ‚ฌ5 note looked like.

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Downmarseyd for Thatcher-phobia

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HOW DID THATCHER AND REAGAN R*PE THE ECONOMY? :marseyconfused:

I LOVE SUCKING PEEPEE :marseyflagitaly:

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With their peepeees

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With their peepeees

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SOMEHOW MILEI MANAGED TO CONVINCE MILLIONS OF ARGIES TO SUFFER SHORT TERM HARDSHIP FOR LONG TERM GAIN AND PULLED IT OFF :marseyshrug: SO IT'S NOT IMPOSSIBLE

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Its because they were already suffering

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Yeah I am really impressed he managed to win, but his approval rate is already dipping :(

But I'm also not excited for our economy to get to Argentina levels of fricked before we even try to right the ship

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I think some people can deal with it but that percentage has rapidly shrunk with mass immigration from countries that only value short term solutions and things becoming more of a rat race

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Idk man this had been a steady trend since like the early 80s, I think this might be the one issue you can't blame immigrants for

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Its not blaming immigrants for its entirety rather its them adding to the issue.

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Well you are claiming that immigrants are worse per capita which I disagree with

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As opposite to which country?

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The best way to restrict its r-slurred parts is to decrease government's power over the social and economic spheres of life. Of course, voters hate this, but they're r-slurred and should be ignored.

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My solution has been an open democracy, but requires a rigorous exam to actually vote.

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You options are a 5% shit sandwich up too a 100% shitsandwich. Democracy is the 5% shisandwich

Jewish lives matter

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Looking at world war 1 and reaching a conclusion like 'monarchies are necessarily evil' instead of 'balkanoids and Slavs are r-slurred' is hilarious

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ur an r-slur, balkanoids dindu nuffin, they were just a convenient excuse

!historychads r*pe this man

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No you don't get it Serbia deserved getting invaded because...

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Yes :marseyagree:

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Sphereserf is an Albanian :marseynotes:

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He's a much of a real Albanian as whoever shoved a glass bottle up that one Serb's butt.

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How did the flow of events go?

We had the UK and France in a mutual defense agreement. France and Russia had the same. Germoids weren't beholden to any major nation, or maybe somethibg with Austria. Serboid assassinates Duke Ferdinand of Austria. Austria does something.... Russia attacks Austria. France declares war against Russia. Germany, which could've remained neutral, decided to invade France.

!historychads, help a neighbor out.

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Looking at any 20th century event and not reaching the conclusion that Germs are evil is r-slurred.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1735543086Pnv3m01QI5h1Xw.webp

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It's been a bit and the Alliance networks were a bit of a mess in regards to Britain particularly, but..

Russia viewed itself as protector of the Slavs

Austria-Hungary and Germany were allied

France and Russia were allied.

Britain had declared it would protect Belgium Neutrality.

Franz Ferdinand was just the match strike that set this all off and there were off ramps after it happened, but a variety of blunders prevented them from being taken.

Ferdinand was killed, Austria-Hungary received assurances from Germany that they had a "blank check", Russia wanted to appear as the strong slavic protector, and distract from some inner failings leading to the conflict really kicking off. From there the Alliance network of France and Russia triggered bringing France into the war, this lead to the Germans acting on their pre-war Schlieffen Plan leading them to attack France through Belgium. This violated the neutrality of Belgium giving the UK an excuse to enter the war on the side of the entente.

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The Germans had already decided earlier that 1914 was about the the last moment when they had any hope of beating Russia because of its rapid industrialization so they needed to blow up the next crisis into a world war. This is actually how krauts think. (Not hyperbole, this is all from kraut archives.)

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you cant blame the serbs for not wanting to be part of a shitty failing empire

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monarchies are necessarily evil

As in monarchies are a necessary evil or that being evil is necessary for monarchies?

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ESL moment :marseylaugh: :marseylaugh:

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:marseyconfused: Why is a Pole calling me ESL? :marseysad:

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huzzah, saz iz lieterrally il mio


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>republicans: you would be in the first line of murder had a King been in charge

>dramanauts: I would rather suffer under a ferocious ruler than a DEI neo liberal

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It's always funny to note that this is probably the most flattering they could make the creature look without it being seen by him as too fake :marseydarkxd:

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What are you saying? :marseyconfused:

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>noooo dont look at history about monarchs

Ok. Let's talk about Russia being nothing but shit hole mudhuts until they created a royal family to lead them and actually turn a backwater country to an empire.

Then communists took over and it's been downhill ever since for ruskie r-slurs

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This post rests on native land and what are you smoking, not even opponents of the USSR believes that

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Only the cool ones :marseycool2:

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Lol opponents? RTV literally did a series on the tsar in good light that's about as biased as you can get with the Russian federation

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Sorry @GrueYearsResolution meant specifically the claim that "communism was Russia's steady decline since tsardom"

This post rests on native land, after a long day of having its way with native women and gorging itself on native larders

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WHILE I HATE TO ACKNOWLEDGE SUCCESS BY !commies :marseydisgust: AND WHILE THE TSARS ARE GIVEN AN UNDUE BAD REP, THEY DID MANAGE TO MASSIVELY INDUSTRIALIZE A MIDDLING GREAT POWER KNOWN FOR LAGGING BEHIND TECHNOLOGICALLY FOR CENTURIES INTO A SPACE AGE SUPER POWER AFTER ONLY 40 YEARS, EVEN IF AT A GREAT COST, WHOSE HARD, SOFT, CULTURAL, IDEOLOGICAL, ETC. POWER COULD BE FELT IN EVERY PART OF THE WORLD AND HAS CHANGED IT FOREVER

I LOVE SUCKING PEEPEE :marseyblush:

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THEY DID MANAGE TO MASSIVELY INDUSTRIALIZE A MIDDLING GREAT POWER

Thanks to America. Before they were just decemberists strags starving themselves because they killed their farmers.

EVEN IF AT A GREAT COST

Yeah nothing says great planning like burning your country out economically just to say you put a satellite in orbit and a lander on Venus a few times to live for 20 minutes.

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[โ€“]furryeasymac 13 points 1 day ago

"How do you know capitalism works better than communism."

"Look at history!"

"Ok, should we also look at history to see if monarchy works better than democracy?"

"NOOO!!!! No more looking at history!!!"

:#marseyhesfluffyyouknow:

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History is full of civil wars due to a succession fight within the royal family. Monarchy actually has a pretty shit record in every meaningful category when taken as a whole.

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It does??? :marseyshook:

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:#marseysquint:

not sure if ur frickin' with me

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:marseyemojirofl: :marseyemojirofl: :marseyemojirofl:

>redditor's comment was in jest

>my comment was in jest

>"Why is no one taking me serious???" :marseymad:

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Wait really? :marseygasp:

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lol

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Not funny and you didn't answer my question :!marseyindignant:

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it was kinda funny, don't lie

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The funny thing is that pirate captains and quartermasters were elected positions governed by an articles of confederation

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Wait really? :marseygasp:

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Wait really? :marseygasp:

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lol

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:redlight:BASED ALERT:redlight:

Republicans in shambles

Common monarchist W

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I'm still convinced this is a bait sub started by one of you people and the creator is remaining silent

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I don't get how monarchism ensures competent leadership. Maybe if the monarch seized power for himself as part of a grander struggle sure but history is littered with spoiled crown princes that royally fricked their country over.

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Are you real

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I can only confidently guarantee that the prostitute you end up making tender love to (lol) will shower longer than she usually does after your 5 shameful minutes of disappointing her

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The vast majority of human progress occurred under monarchs:

"What in tarnation, by not ceding ground to Adolf Hitler, you triggered him to start a destructive war! What a shameful display to democracy (Hitler was democratically elected)!":

Are you seriously mixing up World War I and World War II?? Hitler was a direct consequence of World War I which was a direct consequence of poor leadership by monarchists.:

So cleaning up monarchy's mess, a war between a republic and a monarchy, and a nation that started more wars as an empire than as a republic? Sounds about right. Did you forget that Europe was at war continuously for 1,500 years under monarchy?:

Ok, and? The people were being starved, around 750,000 people. That's a lot of non-military casualties. They were being pushed back, their propaganda said they weren't, but they were, and by 1917 luddendorf was already preparing for defeat. That's why they were already weakening the monarchy before the war even ended, they hoped that the entente would prefer a democracy. Austria Hungary would've been battered by Italy regardless, American troops weren't really there, and if Austria fell, than Germany would be by itself. The ottomans were already collapsing, and Bulgaria couldn't sustain itself:

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