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Dude. Most people don't even have the money for the basics. Rent for an apartment that's big enough for kids. You can't have kids in a one bedroom apartment. Childcare because almost nobody can afford to have one parent be a stay at home parent and not work. Food and clothing for an extra person. These are not easy and cheap expenses for people barely getting by already. (62)

Can you cite where people are having trouble affording one bed apartments ? Need more specifics. You can have one kid in a one bedroom apartment btw. Clothes? where do you shop? Zara? Gap? (-40)

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this doesn't take into consideration childcare, groceries, rent, gas… (49)

groceries can be bought from Walmart for cheap.rent, there's cheap places not in fancy new apartments with gyms. (-24)

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Did your mother work?The most expensive part of having a child isn't the car or the food or the clothes or even the housing (the average American spends $23k or something like that on these types of expenses, which definitely can be brought lower). The most expensive part is the opportunity cost of a woman staying home. The average salary for an American between ages 25-34 is $57k. If she has kids instead of working, they immediately cost her significantly more than $23k. (51)

If the majority of women didn't work again salaries for men would double (-17)

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Your solution for medical care is Medicaid? Putting aside the fact that public healthcare resources are hugely underfunded and the incoming administration only intends to make them more so - You're assuming you won't have anything bad happen in pregnancy or at any point after. Childbirth is dangerous and complications are expensive. Which is the main reason the maternal death is higher in low income women. Are you a man? Perhaps you didn't consider just how common it is for pregnancy to go badly for women. Or for babies, btw. Cerebral palsy from birth injuries. Congenital birth defects. Your kid has a genetic predisposition and gets childhood diabetes? Your child just got VERY expensive in a way you couldn't prevent. Hit by a car? Seizure disorder? Don't buy into the myth that the only people struggling did something wrong or deserve it. Prosperity gospel bullshit through and through.And that's if they can get pregnant at all! Fertility treatments and the standards for adoption are ... (11)

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You "grew up in the projects" but seemingly aren't aware of the fact that some people can't even afford food for just themselves, let alone another person? Boldfaced lie. And I've never in my life met a person who says they "can't afford kids" and then cites being unable to buy them the hottest toys or a car at 16 as an example. They usually cite the fact that they themselves are barely getting by, if that. Quality of life is not a luxury. You're right, kids will not keel over and die if they don't go to prom. They just might feel mental anguish from being excluded both socially and socioeconomically, and from not getting the chance to form irreplaceable memories. That's a big frickin deal if you view kids as more than just something to keep alive until they're old enough to contribute to the economy. (10)

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Not only is children's clothing expensive to people who are already poor, but in the early stages of a child's life they will be constantly outgrowing their clothes and need new ones, meaning it's a continuing expense. (30)

This bot wants poor people to document and file a claim everytime they are struggling like someone is going to help them out. Like most guys, when a family struggles, it hits your pride, and we bottle it up because of fear that were vulnerable and one crazy cps call from loosing their kids, the only thing probably worth fighting for. You could look up how many families added to the homeless problem if you think noone is struggling. As someone who grew up in a poor family of 9, who's mom was 14 when she got knocked up by a 27 year old man, taken to bfe to raise his kids and the next 5 he would give her. You haven't seen shit. (19)