Apparently Jesse had an episode with another guest (not Katie TERFzog) where they talked about Musk, Rotherdam and made some lame jokes and talked about Elon's interest or something. I didn't listen to the episode....
....Instead I was watching the absolute chimpout on /r/BlockedAndReported
I suspected that the Substack commenters would be more supportive on this episode but there are ~700 comments after a day over there so, uh ...
I'm 25 minutes in and the jokes and accents are unbelievably cringe and borderline un-listenable, aside from the distastefulness of the jokes themselves being about kids getting gang-r*ped. Bad bad bad. I've never posted on this sub as a 2 year subscriber but felt compelled this time.
BAD BAD BAD. YUCKY. DO BETTER. I'VE NEVER POSTED ON THIS SUB BEFORE BUT THAT'S HOW MAD I AM AT HOW BAD THIS EPISODE WAS 
The first segment of the episode really annoyed me.
Whenever there's an incident or scandal or story that is able to be used by certain Right-leaning parties to advance their narrative, then many on the Left make it their business to minimize, obfuscate, distract, and just generally draw the focus to things other than the core issue in order to lessen the ability of those Right-leaning figures to use this issue to bolster their position. (To be fair, I can believe that this exact dynamic probably plays out exactly the other way too, but being someone who consumes mostly Left-leaning media, I see it on the Left much more often.)
I feel like that's exactly what Jesse was doing throughout this entire segment. Elon is a bad guy. Elon is advancing certain ideas about Muslims (or certain Muslim immigrants) that Jesse disapproves of. Elon is bolstering the far-right! So Jesse is doing his part to show what a jackass and liar Elon is so as to lessen Elon's influence in spreading those ideas. But the story here should not be about Elon, and making it about him is part of that exact reaction described above to draw people's attention away from the much more important parts of it.
I don't dispute that Elon says some dumb, inflammatory, and even possibly untrue, things. And it's fair for everyone, including Jesse, to point those things out. But I think that Jesse's interest in focusing on Elon's missteps is because drawing the focus to Elon's idiocy allows the focus to be taken off of all the things that the horrific grooming gang scandal brings to people's minds: unpleasant truths about Muslim culture, about unfettered immigration, about multiculturalism, about political correctness, about the hypocrisy of many feminists and #MeToo voices, about the fecklessness of trusted authorities in the face of accusations of racism. About the neutrality and truth-seeking of the press. About police collusion. It takes the focus off of so much stuff that the Left prefers people were not paying attention to (well, I'm sure they want people to know about police corruption) because those things weaken the Left. And Jesse, being a reasonable liberal, still believes in a lot of those things, and doesn't want them undermined by the likes of Elon. That's what this piece was all about. That's why it annoyed me. Because Jesse choosing to focus
Jesse has a really unfortunate habit of doing this. See also the Louden Country schools sexual assault story and the Citibike Karen incident. He bends over backwards trying to dismiss the way the right wing will inevitably spin it, rather than admitting the inconvenient facts.
Jesse did cover the Loudon County school assaults and he did a much better job than right wing media (unfortunately), what the heck are you on about
Two BARpodoids in a row spelled Loudoun County wrong 
Yeah.
This episode was awful, I'm a >3 year sub and I'm considering unsubbing over it, I'm legit pissed. It's hard to say "well they do good work and have some bad takes" when you know how the take will land based on the subject matter.
Jesse writing this off as "well covered" is bullshit. It was mostly in the British press, and the British press to this day downplays the fact that the vast majority of the offenders here are Pakistani, and repeatedly insists that CSA is a general problemβvs the particular extremes at play here. Also, it's not well reported in the US press. The NYT had five articles on this, all from the early 2010s. Meghan Markle personally has more coverage by the NYT. If the US had a scandal whereby white gangs in Minnesota had preyed on 1000s of Somalian girls, we would quite literally hear about it for the next 100 years. The NYT would have an op-ed about it at least once a year. Saying that this has been litigated is nonsense.
I don't like Elon. I think he's a dork, his company makes crappy cars, and nearly everything he does makes me roll my eyes. That said, I'm grateful that he used his platform to put a giant spotlight on this, and it's extremely frustrating that Jesse used this episode of all things to (a) make some of the shittiest jokes ever on the pod and (b) go full nuance bro on something that doesn't require or even suggest nuance. Had this been about some gender clinic, the tone would've been very different, and that's pretty much all I need to know about this episode.
IM HONESTLY GONNA UNSUB FROM BARPOD AFTER 37 YEARS OF LISTENING. IM FRICKING PISSED. THEY ARE NOT UNDERSTANDING MY LIVED EXPERIENCES 
Has me mulling over my long subscription also. And if it weren't for the fantastic crowds at their live events and parties, I think I would have cancelled already.
I can usually FF past the frequent and turbocorny Musk takes, which eat up way too much time anyway, but now they have Musk in the episode title? Then they throw in some megadumb voices and the whole predictable thing is grody and cheap.
But god darn, the NYC events are so fun and the attendees are pleasant to the max. It's a tough one.
"The.....the NYC events were so fun.....I got laid with fellow fat BARpodcels so many times......but honestly....I think....I might have to end things here.....I might have to unsubscribe." 
He's just a good liberal, what's more important?
Tens or hundreds of thousands of poor girls getting gang r*ped?
Or the right making political hay out of the left's complete complicity in that fifty-year ongoing r*pe culture?
Bussy Singal is a GOOD DECENT libtard
So this is the first time I heard about ANY of this and I was honestly so shocked and upset when they went into the detail of the gang offending that I was kind of on Elon's side in that he's just found out about it and is also horrified.
Haven't heard the ep yet - I'm nervous - but my reaction to Musk intervening here was not just because I think he's a dangerous fool and I would like to oppose him where possible. It's also about the fact that he has rolled into his response lionisation of the white nationalist grifter Stephen Yaxley-Lennon (stage name Tommy Robinson) AND that this is a very disturbing proof-of-concept of his current level of political power. The politically motivated billionaire used his social media network to set the political agenda of a country on the opposite side of the Atlantic. Details of the particular case aside, we should all be quite worried about his ability to do this.
GUYS IM FRICKING NERVOUS ABOUT LISTENING TO THIS EPISODE OF BARPOD BECAUSE BUSSY SINGAL MIGHT NOT UNDERSTAND MY LIVED EXPERIENCES OF BEING A RIGHTOID REDDITOR 
I don't think they should have done this one. A half hour isn't enough to establish even enough facts to dunk on Musk.
And I get they were trying to lighten the mood but all the (not very good) joking around was kind of inappropriate.
I recommend skipping to the next segment. In the first segment they are talking over each other, using cringey inappropriate accents, and retelling a story I'm sure many people here have heard before. It's not the right kind of story for Jesse and Jeff. The Meta AI segment is much better.
The accents were so goofy! It's not fun to listen to strangers do accents badly. Maybe it's funny to listen to your friends at it but I had to stop listening.
SHUT THE FRICKERINO UP ABOUT YOUR STUPID FRICKING ACCENTS. THAT IS NOT O-FRICKING-KAY GUYS!!!!!! 
God forbid Jesse doesn't use female pronouns for certain lunatic men lest he hurt their gender feelings but the sexual torture of working class girls is a topic ripe for hilarity π
Also Jesse you're not funny, sorry. Please stop trying so hard to be - especially on this of all topics.
ummmmmm jesse babe. you're not funny. you're actually gay and should keep yourself safe. #SorryNotSorry. Toodles, babe! 
Yeah, two middle aged men laughing about a situation in which 12 year old girls were being repeatedly gang r*ped was extremely gross and misjudged. Definitely rethinking my subscription.
"Two fricking STRAIGHT white CIS men were joking about.....uggh.....I might have to unsub....I just can't today" 
I've long suspected Jesse of some latent misogyny and this really hasn't helped, I can't imagine I'll be renewing my primo membership. I'm interested to see what happens next and Katie's take on the whole thing.
"Latent misogyny"? I feel like this conclusion is pushing it too far.
Jesse and Katie typically make terrible jokes about the most appalling things. The Holocaust, genocide, whatever. Sometimes the jokes land; sometimes they don't. In this case, I agree most of it wasn't particularly funny, but I don't think it's any different than their spectacularly dark humor on many other issues. And they weren't actually cracking jokes about kids being r*ped in this case -- if anything, they were commenting about how horrific and serious the topic was, so they felt the need to insert absurdist humor. And even then, there were several moments where Jesse actually stopped, took a moment and said, "And yeah, this is truly awful and very serious..."
That said, obviously if dark humor makes you uncomfortable, you shouldn't necessarily be paying for it. Just like Dave Chappelle humor, it's not for everyone.
I didn't find the segment particularly funny, but at no point did I doubt that they found the actual events to be horrific.
I think a lot of people have latent misogyny due to the society we live in. I haven't come to this conclusion due to solely this episode, it's a vibe I've picked up from listening over the years. Dark humour doesn't make me uncomfortable, but the approach to this topic did Β―_(γ)_/Β―
BUSSY SINGAL IS A FRICKING MISOGYNST WHO BEATS WOMEN WITH HIS HUGE JEWISH PEEPEE AND LOVES R*PE. FACTS. 
I can't wait until Jesse complains about Jews who are still upset about the Holocaust. I mean, after all, it happened AGES ago and there's been plenty of discussion and outrage already. I hope we can a deep dive into every maniac who claims that 6 million Jews were gassed instead of clarifying that most died of other causes and that it AKSHUALLY was 4 million or so.. I mean, seriously, folks.. it's been 60 years and you're JUST talking about it now?
Only someone with malign intentions would make such a big deal over it!! Downplaying such a tragedy bc I think the people bringing attention to it are doing so for bad reasons? Now that's where the virtue is! I am very smart and good! Listen to me do silly accents while I describe the sexual torture of children! Please pay me money to listen btw :)
I created a reddit account just to say I unsubscribed after this episode. And unsubscribed from Jeff's substack. Jesse & Jeff force cringe-inducing unfunny jokes about accents while lightheartedly skipping over details from atrocious r*pe and murder- yikes. I'm only listening free for Katie & Helen Lewis at this point (who are great). To be clear- Casting doubt on Elon adulation and the Free Press angle of the story is a worthwhile perspective but Jesse executed this ep horrendously. I'm sorta friendly with Jesse in NYC and now I feel like I can't look him in the eye for a while. I'm a tv comedy writer and always down for dark humor on the grounds that the jokes are actually funny (this was not). This segment felt so crass & self-serving. So, to quote this episode: check please.
I CAN'T LOOK HIM IN THE EYE FOR A WHILE AAAAAHAHAHAHAHA HOLY SHIT DUDE CALM DOWN 
I'm worried about listening to this - afraid they'll offer some apologia for media failures here, or approach it dismissively because Musk is the reason for the present notoriety and outcry.
Can anyone comment on whether they acknowledged that these r*pe gangs in the UK are a direct, specific import from Pakistanβthe BS "state" in which the most virulent misogyny from Muslim & South Asian cultures have been alchemized into normative sexual violence against women & girls?
Did they mention the kidnappings and r*pes of adolescent & even prepubescent Hindu girls in Pakistan as both the precursor & parallel to what has been happening in the UK for several decades now? Or extend the discussion to the regularity with which husbands dump kerosene on their wives and burn them alive in Pakistan in pursuit of better dowries or new excitement, another direct import to the UK - with, unbelievably, equivalent failures of justice?
GUYS. IM WORRIED ABOUT LISTENING TO THIS. I MIGHT LISTEN TO A MEDIOCRE PODCAST EPISODE THAT I DISAGREE WITH. IM NOT OKAY. IVE HAVE MULTIPLE PANIC ATTACKS THINKING ABOUT BUSSY'S SINGAL. HELP ME. HEEEEELLLPPPPP 
I really don't get why people are saying Jesse butchered the Grooming story. And I don't even believe he put forth the opinion you all are crucifying him for having.
As someone who listens to a lot of true crime, I'm pretty familiar with the crimes mentioned in this story. How it came about, what exactly happened, etc. Truly, horrendous shit. Jesse certainly reiterated again and again how awful it was. I didn't hear him try to "explain away" the severity at all. Nor downplay that race was a factor (as liberals try to do), and he even highlighted that left-leaning outlets didn't want to cover this because of the race elements. He did shit talk Elon's tweets, but I took it as more from the angle of, 'Can you believe this guy with so much wealth and power just hopped into an issue he learned about 20 seconds ago and is now tweeting out to his MILLIONS of followers who he thinks of the people peripherally involved should be literally imprisoned?' As in, isn't it insane for someone with so much power to just tweet whatever batshit, highly consequential thought comes to his head? NOT as in, Elon is wrong, no one should be held accountable, this wasn't that bad.
Idk, I'm having trouble articulating my thoughts bc this conversation, in my opinion, has gotten really convoluted, but yeah, just wanted to add that I disagree with a lot of comments here. I thought this was a great episode and I think Jesse is being misinterpreted
This sub is actually pretty far to the right of the hosts and thinks Jesse is only marginally to the right of your average 2010s tumblr user and interprets everything he says with that in mind.
I also thought the episode was fine and the main point, ie that Elon is talking out of his butt about this because he only just learned about it, is obviously true. They even mentioned multiple times that the response was slow and incomplete but if the focus of an episode isn't exactly calibrated to the sensibilities of this sub and didn't go on for 3 hours to cover every detail and angle on a decades old scandal then it's time to start cancelling subs and whining.
The accent bit needs to die though. It's not funny and genuinely interferes with following the story
Please tell Jesse and anyone who wants to listen that putting on voices is not funny! I had to skip through that segment. Musk is an r-slur though so mocking him is worth it
JESSE. ACCENTS ARE NOT FRICKING FUNNY. STOP. NAAAAAOOOOWWWWWWW 
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