for example: the first sentence is literally try to claim "a bunch of ppl participate in our forced water allocation scheme, plus the numbers went up" implies "strong user support"... as opposed to people just dealing with a system they can't otherwise ignore
fricking neoliberals wouldn't know voluntarism even if it took a giant dump in their mouth
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Some of the outcomes are literally "more crops grow," dumbass. Have you considered having less idiotic stances? Or does your platform peak out at "neolibs bad"?
There are citations for the claims if you want to follow them (but you won't).
it says higher gross domestic product, not "more crops". it doesn't actually give a figure (cause like how would you separate it's effect from just progress in general???). and again that could just mean more cash crops which doesn't necessarily mean more actual societal benefit is getting created.
if this shit was voluntary wouldn't need to enforce it. liberalism in general self-defeating trash.
It's not a controversial position that these water markets improved economic output in Australia.
confirmation bias tends not to be all that controversial when it comes to the religion of economics.
(but you won't).
yeah i'm not digging thru 3 papers to find trace elements he lifted. how about you do that.
and a later point specifically called out almonds.
i mean as if ca agriculture hasn't been dynamic and shifting for the past 2 decades either?
It says "gross product," not GDP
gross product measured in dollars, not literally amount of crops grown. "high value" sources are considered better by economists treating it like a black box... that really doesn't mean they are lowering prices for most ppl, because it could just be redistributing production towards goods for the rich few, or export. markets don't really give a shit about the masses. it's not charity.
so far you haven't listed any hard numbers. cause u don't actually care to.
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lowering prices for most ppl
so far you haven't listed any hard numbers.
I care about growing the economy, not your commie goalposts. Read the cited articles if you want to know why there's consensus that it was good, how that was determined, and the hard numbers backing it. I'm not going to do a writeup on a country/state I don't know well when all you'll do is demand more every time I post. !anticommunists!neolibs
I care about growing the economy, not your commie goalposts.
yes i get it neoliberals don't actually care about the people actually in the economy. just numbers go up. even if happiness goes down.
that "benefit" of almond growth is actually a cancer coming at the expense of other basic food staples: https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2023-australia-water-trade-drought. current almost production is set to utilize 80% the total irrigation water for an average rainfall year. wow such efficiency.
ur a cancer coming at the expense of basic concern for general welfare. i do pray u land in gulag one day. people like u actually deserve to suffer.
but thanks for forcing me to deconstruct the bs u spread, i did learn something
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goderator200 1mo ago#7666036
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wow such efficiency.
Yes. Almonds are extremely profitable per gallon of water. You can buy more food and everything else by growing almonds instead of cultivating an "efficient" crop that makes lots of calories per gallon of water. Australia does not have a problem with calorie availability.
You must think it's inefficient to have a job and buy food instead of subsistence farming.
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that's literally what i'm referring to u tard
for example: the first sentence is literally try to claim "a bunch of ppl participate in our forced water allocation scheme, plus the numbers went up" implies "strong user support"... as opposed to people just dealing with a system they can't otherwise ignore
fricking neoliberals wouldn't know voluntarism even if it took a giant dump in their mouth
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Some of the outcomes are literally "more crops grow," dumbass. Have you considered having less idiotic stances? Or does your platform peak out at "neolibs bad"?
There are citations for the claims if you want to follow them (but you won't).
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it says higher gross domestic product, not "more crops". it doesn't actually give a figure (cause like how would you separate it's effect from just progress in general???). and again that could just mean more cash crops which doesn't necessarily mean more actual societal benefit is getting created.
if this shit was voluntary wouldn't need to enforce it. liberalism in general self-defeating trash.
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It says "gross product," not GDP. That's referring to crops and manufacturing, and a later point specifically called out almonds.
The relationship between irrigation and crop yield isn't a mystery.
There are citations for the claims if you want to follow them (but you won't).
It's not a controversial position that these water markets improved economic output in Australia.
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confirmation bias tends not to be all that controversial when it comes to the religion of economics.
yeah i'm not digging thru 3 papers to find trace elements he lifted. how about you do that.
i mean as if ca agriculture hasn't been dynamic and shifting for the past 2 decades either?
gross product measured in dollars, not literally amount of crops grown. "high value" sources are considered better by economists treating it like a black box... that really doesn't mean they are lowering prices for most ppl, because it could just be redistributing production towards goods for the rich few, or export. markets don't really give a shit about the masses. it's not charity.
so far you haven't listed any hard numbers. cause u don't actually care to.
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I care about growing the economy, not your commie goalposts. Read the cited articles if you want to know why there's consensus that it was good, how that was determined, and the hard numbers backing it. I'm not going to do a writeup on a country/state I don't know well when all you'll do is demand more every time I post. !anticommunists !neolibs
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yes i get it neoliberals don't actually care about the people actually in the economy. just numbers go up. even if happiness goes down.
that "benefit" of almond growth is actually a cancer coming at the expense of other basic food staples: https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2023-australia-water-trade-drought. current almost production is set to utilize 80% the total irrigation water for an average rainfall year. wow such efficiency.
ur a cancer coming at the expense of basic concern for general welfare. i do pray u land in gulag one day. people like u actually deserve to suffer.
but thanks for forcing me to deconstruct the bs u spread, i did learn something
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Yes. Almonds are extremely profitable per gallon of water. You can buy more food and everything else by growing almonds instead of cultivating an "efficient" crop that makes lots of calories per gallon of water. Australia does not have a problem with calorie availability.
You must think it's inefficient to have a job and buy food instead of subsistence farming.
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