austalia still has a ton of residential water restrictions, so it didn't really help out with conservation of water.
overall profit impact was maybe +10% so not really transformative like u seem to hope. i have no idea if that translates to a better QoL cause that kind of a marginal impact doesn't really mean the current goods inherently produce 10% more QoL than what was produced before.
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austalia still has a ton of residential water restrictions, so it didn't really help out with conservation of water
I'm more familiar with California than Australia. I just know Australia formerly had a similar system, reformed it, and seems to be managing alright. You can't convince some lefties to let people have long, powerful showers and quick dishwashers; they revel in the virtue-signalling self-denial.
u stupid neoliberal cuck
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I'm not nearly as much an expert on Australian water reform as the situation in California. I just know it's often touted as a template for California by people who seem to have sensible judgment about other policies.
for example: the first sentence is literally try to claim "a bunch of ppl participate in our forced water allocation scheme, plus the numbers went up" implies "strong user support"... as opposed to people just dealing with a system they can't otherwise ignore
fricking neoliberals wouldn't know voluntarism even if it took a giant dump in their mouth
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Some of the outcomes are literally "more crops grow," dumbass. Have you considered having less idiotic stances? Or does your platform peak out at "neolibs bad"?
There are citations for the claims if you want to follow them (but you won't).
it says higher gross domestic product, not "more crops". it doesn't actually give a figure (cause like how would you separate it's effect from just progress in general???). and again that could just mean more cash crops which doesn't necessarily mean more actual societal benefit is getting created.
if this shit was voluntary wouldn't need to enforce it. liberalism in general self-defeating trash.
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austalia still has a ton of residential water restrictions, so it didn't really help out with conservation of water.
overall profit impact was maybe +10% so not really transformative like u seem to hope. i have no idea if that translates to a better QoL cause that kind of a marginal impact doesn't really mean the current goods inherently produce 10% more QoL than what was produced before.
literally
u stupid neoliberal cuck
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I'm more familiar with California than Australia. I just know Australia formerly had a similar system, reformed it, and seems to be managing alright. You can't convince some lefties to let people have long, powerful showers and quick dishwashers; they revel in the virtue-signalling self-denial.
You're right, I'll add the ping group to my previous comment.
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i'm sorry how has it actually benefited?
austrialia still has fairly strict water use restrictions when it comes to residential ... so it didn't exactly solve that aspect.
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A few possibilities:
(1) The government/politicians like being "green" and won't uncap residential usage even if water is more abundant now.
(2) The current reality is the good outcome, and the alternate reality is an Atlanta-style water crisis.
(3) The reforms only targeted commercial use of certain major (but scarce) supplies, having little effect on residential needs.
I genuinely don't know, but this seemed to be a good (if long) explanation of how the markets work and why they're considered a success: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/332764964_The_Australian_water_markets_story_Incremental_transformation
I'm not nearly as much an expert on Australian water reform as the situation in California. I just know it's often touted as a template for California by people who seem to have sensible judgment about other policies.
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that was mostly an explanation of what rather than why, but i can summarize the why with:
several neoliberals clap themselves on the back for vaguely correlating events with talking points
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Also, consider reading why the markets are considered successful. It just takes skimming the link I shared:
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that's literally what i'm referring to u tard
for example: the first sentence is literally try to claim "a bunch of ppl participate in our forced water allocation scheme, plus the numbers went up" implies "strong user support"... as opposed to people just dealing with a system they can't otherwise ignore
fricking neoliberals wouldn't know voluntarism even if it took a giant dump in their mouth
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Some of the outcomes are literally "more crops grow," dumbass. Have you considered having less idiotic stances? Or does your platform peak out at "neolibs bad"?
There are citations for the claims if you want to follow them (but you won't).
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it says higher gross domestic product, not "more crops". it doesn't actually give a figure (cause like how would you separate it's effect from just progress in general???). and again that could just mean more cash crops which doesn't necessarily mean more actual societal benefit is getting created.
if this shit was voluntary wouldn't need to enforce it. liberalism in general self-defeating trash.
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