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Currently, the (former) Feds of DC Urban Moms are discussing how to survive :marseyveryworried: :marseyfedpostglow: :!marseypop2: :!marseyscared: One user would rather "not go on living" than to get a job at Walmart, Target, Outback, or Chilli's :!marseydeadinside:

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1257765.page

Where are the laid off feds supposed to work?

I am all for increasing efficiency and not tolerating poor performance (to be clear, I think those cases are uncommon), but it seems to be that a slower, more measured approach to reducing government size would've been more effective. I am genuinely confused when these huge swaths of people are supposed to find employment - especially when the private sector / contractors are also doing layoffs.

What is the plan? We as a country also can't sustain a significant chunk of the population being out of workโ€ฆ

Probably in the service jobs mass deportation will free up. Literally, that's the only thing I can come up with and it's grim.

I don't see anyone doing that.

They will when times get desperate enough. Isn't that the Trump administration goal?


I would! My friend owns a contracting company and I offered to just carry stuff and pick up deliveries and maybe over time learn a trade.

Work is work and I still have a mortgage to pay


And they will stop buying things their middle class life enables them to buy, which will hurt local economies. Sorry, car dealer and restaurant and clothing store.

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So you going to have hundreds of thousands of highly educated people making minimum wage at a five guys?

That is absurd. I would have no reason to go on living. Really predict this admin will result in a significant increase in suicides.

I'm not sure these establishments are a good match for folks with security clearances and expertise in their fields.


They're not. They're not supposed to find work. This is meant to be punitive and punishing to Feds and to those fired. Musk and Trump want to destroy the government as we know it. They don't care if these people can't find jobs or if the unemployment numbers go up(which they won't bc they'll be rigged). They don't care about the country or its overall wellbeing.

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Seriously, look at a second degree nursing program. By the time your fork money ends you will be close to finished.

I left nursing to work in the government. It's fine but you have to be prepared to work overnights. That didn't work for my family so I had to leave the profession. It does take at least a year or two to get trained. A lot of hospitals these days will want BSN at a minimum.


Education. Teachers have been fleeing in droves.

That's because the same people tearing down our government have been attacking them for decades but have really amped it up since the pandemic.

We have a huge doctor shortage, but federal aid is unlikely to pay for med school moving forward. This isn't about shifting professions. It's about punishing people and making us willing to take any level of abuse in exchange for a minimally acceptable paycheck

:marseykente: naija doctors soon dey japa


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Who wants to teach armed children for $50K a year?


I'm a lawyer in private practice and need to hire paralegals. Those jobs are in demand. Professional skills may transfer from government jobs. We pay well in legal.

Same

How much do you pay paralegals?


My backup plan is to drive a school bus. Seriously.

did Trump just solve the bus driver shortage? :marseypikachu2:


I am going to try to find a job at a bakery. Baking is a big hobby of mine, and while I can't earn no money at all, I don't really need to earn my former salary, since I am married.


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Walmart managers can can make over $200,000. Walmart promotes from within Walmart prefers to hire college graduates to these positions but many many people which is high school degrees get promoted to Walmart managers if they have the right hustle.


:marseybangfast: Getting into education might be hard, because you have to compete as a new teacher with more experienced teachers for those juicy admin roles where you answer emails and don't fricking teach

There are plenty of admin openings at gatehouse, along with school based roles and FCPS has a provisional licensure program. It might not be viable for people

Making GS 13+ money but it's definitely not school based only

I'm aware of the provisional program. I went through a very similar one in another county. It took me a year, several licensure exams, student teaching experience, and 9 credits.

And those admin positionsโ€ฆ you'll be up against the many teachers fleeing the classroom right now. They have education experience on their resumes and understand the field well.


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Probably in the service jobs mass deportation will free up. Literally, that's the only thing I can come up with and it's grim.

Right... how am I supposed to pay a mortgage on a service job. Also, a bit strange you would even want someone in service with a PhD in physics.


I kind of wonder what the enrollment impact will be on our public schools when families find themselves unable to afford private tuition too

That's one of the positive outcomes in my opinion. Private schools locally will tank, there are too many anyhow, and when you have educated parents reinvolved with public schools they will flourish.

Plus, super easy to become a substitute teacher to make a least part of the money to pay bills.

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Um, I think they just want to spend less on tuition


And they will stop buying things their middle class life enables them to buy, which will hurt local economies. Sorry, car dealer and restaurant and clothing store.

Not just those. We decided to cut down groceries and limit gift giving, trim vacations, etc. It's literally a ricochet to everyone

>trim vacations

:bruh: when i was a kid vacation was going to grandma's house for a week, but dc urban moms go on vacation and come back bitter and unrefreshed when they notice women in Paris, France, are skinnier than them. :platyeyes: "it's totally cigarettes at least I won't get cancer"

a tangent.... :marseydisney:

In April of last year, DC Urban moms had a panicked 22 page discussion about Disney World changing their Autism line skipper policies to be more strict. It was one of the most pressing concerns that week on DC Urban Moms.

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DH is "dear husband" he has some kind of spergery :marseyautism: that gave him special Disney World privileges. I don't know what the acronyms are. Disboards is the very active Disney forum, for Disney Adults who plan their Walt Disney Worldยฎ Resort trip 18 months in advance, and talk about it every single day to other Disboard members. :!marseydisney:

back to the sneeding...



How many feds can afford to send their kids to private schools?

There's a lot of tuition daylight between St Albans and some random storefront "classical" school and I suspect a lot of families are stretching to send their kids to both.


So you going to have hundreds of thousands of highly educated people making minimum wage at a five guys?

That is absurd. I would have no reason to go on living. Really predict this admin will result in a significant increase in suicides.

That's your choice.

Wow!! Zero empathy. What happened to you to make you this inhuman?

empathy is when capitulate to suicide baiting

Anyone who has ever been friends with a suicide whiner knows how unsustainable this is :marseydepressed:

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I'm sorry if you were struggling. I certainly never mocked anyone.

You do realize these illegal firings will just lead to more struggles for everyone, right?

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DP. This may not land the way you want it to. A lot of us can't afford house cleaners, car detailing, lawn care, travel, and home renovation. Those are luxuries. So cutting back on that stuff simply takes you to the lifestyle many of us are already living.

This isn't a zero sum game, Sandra. Your persecution complex is the problem โ€” not other people.

I work in the private sector, in a white collar job that has had layoffs. Do you think laying off the government employees will help the private sector folks?

I understand why no one has sympathy for you as you seem to be a nasty individual.

This- it is all connected. We should be terrified of the impact not giddily gleeful.


NP but if one has so little grit that a job loss would make them commit suicide and leave [their spouse, kids] holding the bag thenโ€ฆ not much sympathy.

I am highly educated and if I had to, I would hold my head high and do one of those service jobs, be thankful someone hired me, and know there was probably a light at the end of the tunnel once the admin changed.

The admin is not going to change, fool. We are living through the end stage of American democracy. Wake the F up.

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Not when everyone in a specific region is laid off and tightening their belts. Restaurants will have trouble staying open as well.

All those "service" jobs mentioned earlier will struggle to stay in business and will layoff too. Who has the money for those places when they are not employed? I've already cut them from my budget.


Not just those. We decided to cut down groceries and limit gift giving, trim vacations, etc. It's literally a ricochet to everyone

No more house cleaner, hair salon or landscapers for us.

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:marseyspit: WAIT YOU GUYS HAVE HOUSE CLEANERS AND LANDSCAPERS??? :marseyscream:

No more house cleaner, hair salon or landscapers for us.

Same.


Trump plan is for fired Feds to replace jobs vacated by the deported illegals. Not a joke. He thinks fired Feds will have no choice after the unemployment benefits run out. People have to eat and need shelter


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I'm curious where your concerns have been for the last four years. Throughout this time, anyone who wasn't affiliated with the federal government has been shouting from the rooftops that white collar jobs were getting cut, and people were suffering as a result.

I'm guessing you were among those saying that Tysons II was crowded and that the right-wing individuals were just stupid and lazy.

For the past four years, the DMV bubble has been told that jobs were scarce and budgets were tight, but we were all ignored.

There has been zero sympathy. And I have none to give in return.

DMV I think stands for: DC, and Maryland, Virginia (the parts next to DC)


It's time to think outside the box on income options.

For example, if you have a spare bedroom in your house, consider renting it out. I am divorced, and my kids are grown. As much as I hate the idea of a roommate, I would consider renting my two spare bedrooms as a last resort.

Other options include childcare, respite foster care, eldercare, substitute teaching, and dog walking. Many of the solutions will lie in the entrepreneurial realm.

childcare - agree, but there will be much less demand if these Gilead commanders get their way and less women are working

respite foster care - funded by who?

eldercare - hope Medicare holds up during the collapse

substitute teaching - no way, they are cutting school funding all over the place. We are less than 5 years from them putting 100+ kids in a room with a recorded curriculum. Maybe 1 or 2 minimum wage room monitors... or I don't even want to say this but "cell block" type rooms where guards video monitor multiple rooms and only intervene if there are problems. Sounds crazy now but schools have becoming more prisonish for decades and i guarantee cutting teachers and using tech in its place is on the docket.

Dog walking - with what disposable income? Again, more women at home. Some work here but trust that in the long vision, women are back to doing (even more) free domestic labor.


How much do you pay paralegals?

Np, and same question. I was a federal paralegal for 13 years. I enjoyed the sedentary nature of the work.

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I can't find the bottom of the seethe


thanks again, Trump voters.

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Any teachers in your family? Dept of Ed funding cuts already have schools talking about how they'll need to lay off teachers and make classrooms bigger; special needs or ESL teachers lol that all counts as DEI now.

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I'll finally have to join an MLM pyramid scheme and work my way to the top!

some DCUM posters are already in MLMs but unironically (They are mormon fedwives and cannot get a 9-5 job for religious reasons)


I thought you all wanted to be retrained to install solar panels. It's what you suggested last time major layoffs occurred.

:marseyxd: what's this a refrence to


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Let me see. After earning a Ph.D. and and 20 years into a successful career in government contracting, I can work at Costco during the day which won't pay my bills (including the childcare I will need to work at Costco), get a nursing degree at night, and then be a nurse for half of what I currently make. Sounds great.

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What about server positions? Easily $40-$50 per hour.

In a few months, no one will be eating out.

https://media.tenor.com/hMY3vuCm5m4AAAAx/wojak-sad-in-the-rain.webp it's over


It is a sad situation. Have any of the feds who voted for trump and now got laid off realized they shouldn't have done it?


Feds have been whining for weeks now about how little they make. Yet when given everyday jobs that are similar pay they turn their nose up at the ideas. This is why people don't respect you anymore.

+1.

The pages I'm reading now are devolving into increasing novel posting about how I made it in the past :marseylongpost: :marseylongpostglow: and increased infighting :hammerfight:

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The one who said they'd rather kill themself than work for minimum wage is the only reasonable one

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I would genuinely rather be dead than work 20 years in retail purgatory

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Thats pretty much the driving force behind the mass suicides of Gooks in South Korea.

Lots of college educated moids and foids who can't get decent white collar jobs are forced to pick one of the following options

  • NEET out on your parents dime like a failure

  • Work blue-collar jobs like a failure

  • Commit seppuku like a failure

  • Flee the country

  • Become a rich person's cumdump until you age out

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This will be me in 4 months :marseyhesright:

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I'd be delighted tp have you as my cumdump :carpembrace:

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Isn't part of the problem that there are only a few big conglomerates deemed 'acceptable' as workplaces in South Korea? So if you don't get an office job in one of them, your parents consider you a total failure and waste of space, even if you could get a decent job in a different (but less desirable) company?

I've read that this is what kills the start-up initiative, that nobody wants to take a chance on trying to be the next Apple or whatever by creating their own business, but rather they put all their efforts into chasing the small number of 'good' jobs?

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Sorta yes and no.

If you land a chaebol job then you are seen as successful, and people will suck up to you because maybe in the future you can help their child get into chaebol.

If you land any other white collar job then you simply weren't good enough for chaebol, and thats okay, but no one is going to go out of their way to do nice things for you unless they like you.

If you can't land a white collar job at all, then you are failure of a child. HOWEVER, if you are exceptionally gifted at SOMETHING be it instruments, dancing, singing, or even video games then you are fine, but you better have some awards b-word.

The start-up problem in South Korea is that its cost-prohibitive to start-up and business loans are pretty hard to come by unless you have guarantors and you will absolutely not get top tier talent unless they've royally fricked up in the chaebol system, or are so burned out in the chaebol system but have secured a nice nest egg. However, theres been an increase in start-ups because theres too many white-collars and not enough jobs so salaries are being suppressed so more and more people are taking their chances to gamble and then get bought out by a chaebol. Lots of shady "blockchain" companies lately though. Other sectors have better ideas that aren't obviously crypto-scams but the churn is nutso.

TL;DR: Succeed or die in poverty neighbor.

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We need more SK posters, I like you guys.

What is the opinion of the firms that get bought out by US public companies?

>maybe in the future you can get their child into a chaebol

lmfao I fricking love how fricked up your private sector ir. When americans think of crazy corpo shit it's not the US, but SK (or to a lesser extent japan). When I was fricking around a couple years ago family friends unironically tried to get me into one of those companies to jumpstart my career, frick that.

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I know that Japan has a whole literary genre called "Buisness novel"

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OUT!

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The chaebol system is interesting, do you live in Korea or work for any of these companies? And they are essentially family-dynasty run or what? hows that work with the stock market

Trans lives matter

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I have family slaving away at a some of the chaebols. We're not very loyal to one particular group of chaebol. They are family controlled so you either have to blood-related to the owner or like one his bestie's kids. The stock is whatever the chaebols says it is.

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Is there any benefit to being at one then other than the social approval? Like do they pay better, have better benefits, better promotion prospects?

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:marseyshrug: Better marriage prospects, money and stuff.

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We made so many advances in technology since 100 years ago, i'd figure being a peasant shouldn't be this bad.

Most people just want to have a small apartment at the very least, 2 kids, and play on their phone after work. Maybe go to a vacation every year or two.

Why are things so shit now?

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Social movement is hard when your lords won't go into battle and let you loot and ransack the enemy to guarantee prosperity for your immediate future.

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>Most people just want to have a small apartment at the very least, 2 kids, and play on their phone after work. Maybe go to a vacation every year or two.

women are finite and they in turn want the positional good "social status".

Another factor is that if we slack off, thirdies (more realistically, the developing world) may eat our lunch. China managed to steal western industry partly by being more dystopic

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But even if american GPD decreases compared to chinese GDP or whatever, technology improvements should still mean the average worldwide economic factor goes up..

Either tech didn't really improve as much as everyone likes to say, in a meaningful way or there is something dark going on and all that productivity is going somewhere

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>still mean the average worldwide economic factor goes up..

i mean it definitely did. We do not starve anymore in the west, no matter what we do. We don't share an apartment with 10 other people and 4 pigs, no matter if we work or not.

>there is something dark going

Bullshit jobs, maybe? More generally, foid and minorities doing parasitism without giving back

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Blue collar doesn't make you a failure. That's dumb as frick. You need the trade jobs for modern life to be possible. These are the jobs we actually need. The white collar jobs are mostly bullshit and women dominate bullshit jobs.

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If you are college educated and work bluecollar or service in Gookland you are a failure.

Its why us Gooks are importing Paki, Jeet and Viet laborers to do our bluecollar work

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Same as with my DC fed cousins. College degree is the bare minimum, you need one from a good school, you need a wife with one (hopefully her parents have college degrees), your children need a college fund before they are born, and they also need music lessons and tutors and the like.

Out of their deep magnanimity, they appreciate blue colar work "Look son, that is hard work. It could be you if you don't study", and they don't really want tradies around their daughters

:marseythonk: a well connected freemason boss tradie might be ok though

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Tbh nothing makes for as ez a life as white collar jobs and all white collarcels know it which is why they try to keep their kids from going off rails. Only blue collar work that pays in neighbourhood of white collars is either risky, will frick up your health permanently or has terrible schedules that'll prevent you from ever having a family. And its probably not a bug that so many BS white collar jobs exist, call it patronage or w/e but the broader system tries very hard to keep the moderately intelligent people in the population well off, even if it leads to lower total productivity.

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