Where are the laid off feds supposed to work?
I am all for increasing efficiency and not tolerating poor performance (to be clear, I think those cases are uncommon), but it seems to be that a slower, more measured approach to reducing government size would've been more effective. I am genuinely confused when these huge swaths of people are supposed to find employment - especially when the private sector / contractors are also doing layoffs.
What is the plan? We as a country also can't sustain a significant chunk of the population being out of work…
Probably in the service jobs mass deportation will free up. Literally, that's the only thing I can come up with and it's grim.
I don't see anyone doing that.
They will when times get desperate enough. Isn't that the Trump administration goal?
I would! My friend owns a contracting company and I offered to just carry stuff and pick up deliveries and maybe over time learn a trade.
Work is work and I still have a mortgage to pay
And they will stop buying things their middle class life enables them to buy, which will hurt local economies. Sorry, car dealer and restaurant and clothing store.
So you going to have hundreds of thousands of highly educated people making minimum wage at a five guys?
That is absurd. I would have no reason to go on living. Really predict this admin will result in a significant increase in suicides.
I'm not sure these establishments are a good match for folks with security clearances and expertise in their fields.
They're not. They're not supposed to find work. This is meant to be punitive and punishing to Feds and to those fired. Musk and Trump want to destroy the government as we know it. They don't care if these people can't find jobs or if the unemployment numbers go up(which they won't bc they'll be rigged). They don't care about the country or its overall wellbeing.
Seriously, look at a second degree nursing program. By the time your fork money ends you will be close to finished.
I left nursing to work in the government. It's fine but you have to be prepared to work overnights. That didn't work for my family so I had to leave the profession. It does take at least a year or two to get trained. A lot of hospitals these days will want BSN at a minimum.
Education. Teachers have been fleeing in droves.
That's because the same people tearing down our government have been attacking them for decades but have really amped it up since the pandemic.
We have a huge doctor shortage, but federal aid is unlikely to pay for med school moving forward. This isn't about shifting professions. It's about punishing people and making us willing to take any level of abuse in exchange for a minimally acceptable paycheck
naija doctors soon dey japa
Who wants to teach armed children for $50K a year?
I'm a lawyer in private practice and need to hire paralegals. Those jobs are in demand. Professional skills may transfer from government jobs. We pay well in legal.
Same
How much do you pay paralegals?
My backup plan is to drive a school bus. Seriously.
did Trump just solve the bus driver shortage?
I am going to try to find a job at a bakery. Baking is a big hobby of mine, and while I can't earn no money at all, I don't really need to earn my former salary, since I am married.
Walmart managers can can make over $200,000. Walmart promotes from within Walmart prefers to hire college graduates to these positions but many many people which is high school degrees get promoted to Walmart managers if they have the right hustle.
Getting into education might be hard, because you have to compete as a new teacher with more experienced teachers for those juicy admin roles where you answer emails and don't fricking teach
There are plenty of admin openings at gatehouse, along with school based roles and FCPS has a provisional licensure program. It might not be viable for people
Making GS 13+ money but it's definitely not school based only
I'm aware of the provisional program. I went through a very similar one in another county. It took me a year, several licensure exams, student teaching experience, and 9 credits.
And those admin positions… you'll be up against the many teachers fleeing the classroom right now. They have education experience on their resumes and understand the field well.
Probably in the service jobs mass deportation will free up. Literally, that's the only thing I can come up with and it's grim.
Right... how am I supposed to pay a mortgage on a service job. Also, a bit strange you would even want someone in service with a PhD in physics.
I kind of wonder what the enrollment impact will be on our public schools when families find themselves unable to afford private tuition too
That's one of the positive outcomes in my opinion. Private schools locally will tank, there are too many anyhow, and when you have educated parents reinvolved with public schools they will flourish.
Plus, super easy to become a substitute teacher to make a least part of the money to pay bills.
Um, I think they just want to spend less on tuition
And they will stop buying things their middle class life enables them to buy, which will hurt local economies. Sorry, car dealer and restaurant and clothing store.
Not just those. We decided to cut down groceries and limit gift giving, trim vacations, etc. It's literally a ricochet to everyone
when i was a kid vacation was going to grandma's house for a week, but dc urban moms go on vacation and come back bitter and unrefreshed when they notice women in Paris, France, are skinnier than them.
"it's totally cigarettes at least I won't get cancer"
a tangent....
In April of last year, DC Urban moms had a panicked 22 page discussion about Disney World changing their Autism line skipper policies to be more strict. It was one of the most pressing concerns that week on DC Urban Moms.
DH is "dear husband" he has some kind of spergery that gave him special Disney World privileges. I don't know what the acronyms are. Disboards is the very active Disney forum, for Disney Adults who plan their Walt Disney World® Resort trip 18 months in advance, and talk about it every single day to other Disboard members.
back to the sneeding...
How many feds can afford to send their kids to private schools?
There's a lot of tuition daylight between St Albans and some random storefront "classical" school and I suspect a lot of families are stretching to send their kids to both.
So you going to have hundreds of thousands of highly educated people making minimum wage at a five guys?
That is absurd. I would have no reason to go on living. Really predict this admin will result in a significant increase in suicides.
That's your choice.
Wow!! Zero empathy. What happened to you to make you this inhuman?
empathy is when capitulate to suicide baiting
Anyone who has ever been friends with a suicide whiner knows how unsustainable this is
I'm sorry if you were struggling. I certainly never mocked anyone.
You do realize these illegal firings will just lead to more struggles for everyone, right?
DP. This may not land the way you want it to. A lot of us can't afford house cleaners, car detailing, lawn care, travel, and home renovation. Those are luxuries. So cutting back on that stuff simply takes you to the lifestyle many of us are already living.
This isn't a zero sum game, Sandra. Your persecution complex is the problem — not other people.
I work in the private sector, in a white collar job that has had layoffs. Do you think laying off the government employees will help the private sector folks?
I understand why no one has sympathy for you as you seem to be a nasty individual.
This- it is all connected. We should be terrified of the impact not giddily gleeful.
NP but if one has so little grit that a job loss would make them commit suicide and leave [their spouse, kids] holding the bag then… not much sympathy.
I am highly educated and if I had to, I would hold my head high and do one of those service jobs, be thankful someone hired me, and know there was probably a light at the end of the tunnel once the admin changed.
The admin is not going to change, fool. We are living through the end stage of American democracy. Wake the F up.
Not when everyone in a specific region is laid off and tightening their belts. Restaurants will have trouble staying open as well.
All those "service" jobs mentioned earlier will struggle to stay in business and will layoff too. Who has the money for those places when they are not employed? I've already cut them from my budget.
Not just those. We decided to cut down groceries and limit gift giving, trim vacations, etc. It's literally a ricochet to everyone
No more house cleaner, hair salon or landscapers for us.
WAIT YOU GUYS HAVE HOUSE CLEANERS AND LANDSCAPERS???
No more house cleaner, hair salon or landscapers for us.
Same.
Trump plan is for fired Feds to replace jobs vacated by the deported illegals. Not a joke. He thinks fired Feds will have no choice after the unemployment benefits run out. People have to eat and need shelter
I'm curious where your concerns have been for the last four years. Throughout this time, anyone who wasn't affiliated with the federal government has been shouting from the rooftops that white collar jobs were getting cut, and people were suffering as a result.
I'm guessing you were among those saying that Tysons II was crowded and that the right-wing individuals were just stupid and lazy.
For the past four years, the DMV bubble has been told that jobs were scarce and budgets were tight, but we were all ignored.
There has been zero sympathy. And I have none to give in return.
DMV I think stands for: DC, and Maryland, Virginia (the parts next to DC)
It's time to think outside the box on income options.
For example, if you have a spare bedroom in your house, consider renting it out. I am divorced, and my kids are grown. As much as I hate the idea of a roommate, I would consider renting my two spare bedrooms as a last resort.
Other options include childcare, respite foster care, eldercare, substitute teaching, and dog walking. Many of the solutions will lie in the entrepreneurial realm.
childcare - agree, but there will be much less demand if these Gilead commanders get their way and less women are working
respite foster care - funded by who?
eldercare - hope Medicare holds up during the collapse
substitute teaching - no way, they are cutting school funding all over the place. We are less than 5 years from them putting 100+ kids in a room with a recorded curriculum. Maybe 1 or 2 minimum wage room monitors... or I don't even want to say this but "cell block" type rooms where guards video monitor multiple rooms and only intervene if there are problems. Sounds crazy now but schools have becoming more prisonish for decades and i guarantee cutting teachers and using tech in its place is on the docket.
Dog walking - with what disposable income? Again, more women at home. Some work here but trust that in the long vision, women are back to doing (even more) free domestic labor.
How much do you pay paralegals?
Np, and same question. I was a federal paralegal for 13 years. I enjoyed the sedentary nature of the work.
I can't find the bottom of the seethe
thanks again, Trump voters.
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Any teachers in your family? Dept of Ed funding cuts already have schools talking about how they'll need to lay off teachers and make classrooms bigger; special needs or ESL teachers lol that all counts as DEI now.
I'll finally have to join an MLM pyramid scheme and work my way to the top!
some DCUM posters are already in MLMs but unironically (They are mormon fedwives and cannot get a 9-5 job for religious reasons)
I thought you all wanted to be retrained to install solar panels. It's what you suggested last time major layoffs occurred.
what's this a refrence to
Let me see. After earning a Ph.D. and and 20 years into a successful career in government contracting, I can work at Costco during the day which won't pay my bills (including the childcare I will need to work at Costco), get a nursing degree at night, and then be a nurse for half of what I currently make. Sounds great.
What about server positions? Easily $40-$50 per hour.
In a few months, no one will be eating out.
It is a sad situation. Have any of the feds who voted for trump and now got laid off realized they shouldn't have done it?
Feds have been whining for weeks now about how little they make. Yet when given everyday jobs that are similar pay they turn their nose up at the ideas. This is why people don't respect you anymore.
+1.
The pages I'm reading now are devolving into increasing novel posting about how I made it in the past
and increased infighting
I am on page 12
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!nooticers Ever notice how people will waste years and tens of thousands of dollars on educations that don't help them in the job market and then refuse work because "I'm too educated for that!".
You see it a lot in Canada. Big part of the reason people wouldn't take low paid service jobs and why the political class mass imported jeets to do it instead.
Unironically a major source of my anti-intellectualism
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It's because they pick the most useless, low-skill ROI majors. No one important has use for theater majors, philosophy majors, and there's a reason that football scholars are mostly communication majors
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Tbf, philosophy is kind of an underrated major and a lot of those who study it end up in unrelated, lucrative careers even if the subject almost never translates directly into its own career.
I would say that college has a low ROI in most cases if you just see the degree itself as a ticket to a white collar job and this includes STEM majors. You basically have to find ways to gain connections and apply yourself outside of your studies no matter what.
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This is probably just because the degree is good at filtering out brainlets. It's still a waste of time and we'd all be better off if employers just skipped the useless education and did IQ tests directly
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Because those careers are guarded by smug pricks with philosophy degrees of their own.
TL:DR "College is high school now, stfu and pay up wagie."
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the problem is meme degrees, not specialization in general
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On some level all degrees are memes
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Yes, that degree is perfectly measured with the percentages of women that have them
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They always take the easy way out, it's laziness not "intellectualism"
They don't do pure math, or other hard stem courses, they do photography, politics or "management". It doesn't even have to be STEM, they won't even do the difficult degrees like Latin or a foreign language.
They party for 4 years on 2 hour contact time a week courses and expect a lifetime of easy work for this
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They are all office ladies.
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Genz boss and mini-ing their way to obstructing any actual work getting done
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It's the idea that a degree equals intelligence for me. They never seem to consider major or what exactly the frick they did. People glorify higher education but fail to recognize that the main reason why they think this way is because most people's high school education is dog shit. Educational resources have never been more available than they are now and yet people still suck. Some colleges are even regressing and offering high school level courses at obscene tuition rates.
t. someone with 20+ fricking years of school
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I'll do them. Just not for 16 leafbucks an hour
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but that is what the job is worth to make a profit.
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Then close half of them and use the increase profits from the remaining to pay me more
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but that doesn't work because you do not have a monopoly on the business. If you close half the shops then the other competing business opens up the same number of shops.
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Genocide?
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I don't think so?
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What if we bombed all thirdies?
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Nah, the market balances itself out
Either the job is paid more, or people stop buying the thing and the market for it disappears.
Based on some simple logic, it's easier for a company to hire H1B migrants that can come from anywhere in the world, than it is for a worker to find a job anywhere in the world, because most require relocation.
Therefore, companies pay less.
Now if we could teleport our houses and there were no borders, maybe this globalism thing wouldn't be lowering our wages
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lol. It would be lowering wages even faster because there are more poor people willing to do jobs for less in the world than the number of jobs that can only be performed by rich workers protesting.
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The one who said they'd rather kill themself than work for minimum wage is the only reasonable one
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Thats pretty much the driving force behind the mass suicides of Gooks in South Korea.
Lots of college educated moids and foids who can't get decent white collar jobs are forced to pick one of the following options
NEET out on your parents dime like a failure
Work blue-collar jobs like a failure
Commit seppuku like a failure
Flee the country
Become a rich person's cumdump until you age out
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This will be me in 4 months
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I'd be delighted tp have you as my cumdump
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Isn't part of the problem that there are only a few big conglomerates deemed 'acceptable' as workplaces in South Korea? So if you don't get an office job in one of them, your parents consider you a total failure and waste of space, even if you could get a decent job in a different (but less desirable) company?
I've read that this is what kills the start-up initiative, that nobody wants to take a chance on trying to be the next Apple or whatever by creating their own business, but rather they put all their efforts into chasing the small number of 'good' jobs?
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Sorta yes and no.
If you land a chaebol job then you are seen as successful, and people will suck up to you because maybe in the future you can help their child get into chaebol.
If you land any other white collar job then you simply weren't good enough for chaebol, and thats okay, but no one is going to go out of their way to do nice things for you unless they like you.
If you can't land a white collar job at all, then you are failure of a child. HOWEVER, if you are exceptionally gifted at SOMETHING be it instruments, dancing, singing, or even video games then you are fine, but you better have some awards b-word.
The start-up problem in South Korea is that its cost-prohibitive to start-up and business loans are pretty hard to come by unless you have guarantors and you will absolutely not get top tier talent unless they've royally fricked up in the chaebol system, or are so burned out in the chaebol system but have secured a nice nest egg. However, theres been an increase in start-ups because theres too many white-collars and not enough jobs so salaries are being suppressed so more and more people are taking their chances to gamble and then get bought out by a chaebol. Lots of shady "blockchain" companies lately though. Other sectors have better ideas that aren't obviously crypto-scams but the churn is nutso.
TL;DR: Succeed or die in poverty neighbor.
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We need more SK posters, I like you guys.
What is the opinion of the firms that get bought out by US public companies?
lmfao I fricking love how fricked up your private sector ir. When americans think of crazy corpo shit it's not the US, but SK (or to a lesser extent japan). When I was fricking around a couple years ago family friends unironically tried to get me into one of those companies to jumpstart my career, frick that.
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I know that Japan has a whole literary genre called "Buisness novel"
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OUT!
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The chaebol system is interesting, do you live in Korea or work for any of these companies? And they are essentially family-dynasty run or what? hows that work with the stock market
Trans lives matter
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I have family slaving away at a some of the chaebols. We're not very loyal to one particular group of chaebol. They are family controlled so you either have to blood-related to the owner or like one his bestie's kids. The stock is whatever the chaebols says it is.
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Is there any benefit to being at one then other than the social approval? Like do they pay better, have better benefits, better promotion prospects?
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We made so many advances in technology since 100 years ago, i'd figure being a peasant shouldn't be this bad.
Most people just want to have a small apartment at the very least, 2 kids, and play on their phone after work. Maybe go to a vacation every year or two.
Why are things so shit now?
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Social movement is hard when your lords won't go into battle and let you loot and ransack the enemy to guarantee prosperity for your immediate future.
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women are finite and they in turn want the positional good "social status".
Another factor is that if we slack off, thirdies (more realistically, the developing world) may eat our lunch. China managed to steal western industry partly by being more dystopic
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But even if american GPD decreases compared to chinese GDP or whatever, technology improvements should still mean the average worldwide economic factor goes up..
Either tech didn't really improve as much as everyone likes to say, in a meaningful way or there is something dark going on and all that productivity is going somewhere
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i mean it definitely did. We do not starve anymore in the west, no matter what we do. We don't share an apartment with 10 other people and 4 pigs, no matter if we work or not.
Bullshit jobs, maybe? More generally, foid and minorities doing parasitism without giving back
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Blue collar doesn't make you a failure. That's dumb as frick. You need the trade jobs for modern life to be possible. These are the jobs we actually need. The white collar jobs are mostly bullshit and women dominate bullshit jobs.
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If you are college educated and work bluecollar or service in Gookland you are a failure.
Its why us Gooks are importing Paki, Jeet and Viet laborers to do our bluecollar work
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Same as with my DC fed cousins. College degree is the bare minimum, you need one from a good school, you need a wife with one (hopefully her parents have college degrees), your children need a college fund before they are born, and they also need music lessons and tutors and the like.
Out of their deep magnanimity, they appreciate blue colar work "Look son, that is hard work. It could be you if you don't study", and they don't really want tradies around their daughters
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Tbh nothing makes for as ez a life as white collar jobs and all white collarcels know it which is why they try to keep their kids from going off rails. Only blue collar work that pays in neighbourhood of white collars is either risky, will frick up your health permanently or has terrible schedules that'll prevent you from ever having a family. And its probably not a bug that so many BS white collar jobs exist, call it patronage or w/e but the broader system tries very hard to keep the moderately intelligent people in the population well off, even if it leads to lower total productivity.
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I would genuinely rather be dead than work 20 years in retail purgatory
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I guess if they told me they'd have to kill me or smth
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Maybe if you showed some compassion to people losing their jobs during rona?
Paying gov employees to facebook all day is good for the economy chud
Yeah, this quickly went from "I can make triple in the private sector, i'm doing the gov a favor and being patriotic!" to "How can i pay my mexican landscaper and go to a hair salon every week on this measly costco salary?!"
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This is only a fraction of the sneed you missed out on by having compassion to people losing their jobs during rona.
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why do you think they take such a strong stance against illegal immigration? they might need to pay their servants fairly lmao
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I used to live in the DMV. Yeah it's basically northern va and southern maryland in the DC bubble. For perspective on the tysons reference: there are two malls basically next to esch other called Tysons corner and tysons 2. Tysons corner is a nice mall for the regulars. Tysons 2 is where a indian guy had elephants flown in for his weddiing parade.
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Probably would be the first useful jobs they ever did.
How is it these highly educated professionals can't seem to imagine getting a job in the private sector, instead of a government job? If they're such wonderful smart and talented people, let them apply to industry and business like the rest of us have to do. For frick's sake, Mr or Ms "I have a PhD in physics", why can't you move someplace that wants to hire physicists or those with a physics background in private industry? "Nooo my only options are to work a service job!" Then you muck be freakin' useless, is all I can say, if nobody would want to employ you once they see your resume and experience.
Musk and DOGE may be going about bureaucratic fat-trimming with a chainsaw, but this kind of complaining makes me think it's the right way to go about it.
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Bro private sector jobs don't just materialize out of thin air. Do you really think the situation would be any different if thousands of physicists in the DC area lost their job overnight because the only big employer in the area randomly laid off everyone?
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the problem is partly that this is all happening so suddenly. Firing them over a span over 5 years would be more sustainable, but then of course you have to fear some of them doing acts of sabotage
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I fricking hate being a britbong.
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!fincels, this comment is a certified !foidmoment. For some reason, when it comes to things like this, women are incapable of understanding multiplication. Of course $100,000 is no big deal, but almost 4½ million civilians are employed by the federal government. If even 10% of them are useless do-nothings, and they're drawing an average salary of $106,382, that's over $47 billion the government is lighting on fire every year, purely on payroll.
The way Musk & Co. are going about cutting these jobs is ridiculous and guaranteed to bite them in the butt sooner than later, but the idea that it won't save a meaningful amount of money because no single employee's salary is a meaningful amount of money is so headbangingly r-slurred, it serves as perfect reminder of what the "r" in "rDrama" stands for.
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If you fire all your underpaid, overqualified staff who do thankless jobs because of perceived status or "patriotism" then you will have to hire the same people (or likely worse substitutes) back as "private contractors" for 5X as much, plus the overhead of an extra layer of Accenture management. I have seen this scenario play out over and over again in IT.
!neolibs explain how the accounting shenanigans work: we're lowering our fixed costs by cutting 100 million in full-time staff, but we'll make up the savings with 500 million in variable costs from contractors we can easily cut if we have to
(but we never will, because actually now the contractors are the only ones who know how anything works)
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Jimie, you really are too funny.
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Didn't SpaceX, a private company, make space travel cheaper than the government?
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That is because they were publicly funded by investors, and weren't being paid by the taxpayer with an incentive to jack up costs and reduce risk above all else
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There are 2.4 million federal employees, not including 600k USPS workers—which are private that follow civil service guidelines. Salary for all of them would be about 4% of the federal budget for every swinging peepee employed. Everyone in the peepee-sucking government. Firing a bunch of probationary GS-7s? Barely more than a Valentine's Day gift to Israel. Less than what regularly gets butt-chugged into whatever Lockheed, Raytheon, or Northrop clusterfrick is currently bleeding taxpayer dollars dry. Much less than flyover Diabetes Goblinos' SSDI checks after losing a foot in the Hershey's War.
What do you think the average federal worker is? TSA agent? USCIS Inspector? MSHA mine inspector? VA nurse? Suicide prevention "Don't Keep yourself safe" Veteran's hotline counselor? Plasma physicist at Lawrence Livermore? Astronaut? SSA processor fixing granny's Social Security check?
Sure, Sleepy Joe probably hired some useless-frick DEI coordinators, but the vast majority of federal workers are in specialized fields. That's why their salaries seem "higher" than the average prole with a sixth-grade reading level. They're not sitting around filling out diversity worksheets—they're engineers, scientists, healthcare providers, regulators, and administrators keeping the country running while people b-word about their existence from behind a Northwest Mutual Desk.
It's pretty clear for the past 30 years most of the loudest cute twinks in this country don't actually know how the government (or anything not directly related to their consooming) works. They can't tell a career civil servant from a political appointee. Trump himself hired around 800 Senate-confirmed positions and probably another 4,000 "special advisors" and Executive Office of the President staffers (those haven't been published, but that's not an unreasonable estimate)—higher-end salaries, btw—not your average NTSB Burned Bodies Inspector or National Park Service biologist.
They fired the nuclear scientists responsible for maintaining the nation's nuclear arsenal. They fired park rangers. They fired career civil servants, many (1 in 5) of them veterans—the same people the party line pretends to give a shit about. A lot of them had stellar performance reviews, but they had the misfortune of being hired within the last year or two or changing positions and landing back on probation only to get fired for "poor performance" which is what they're blanket-claiming, probably to induce people to quit.
There's a right way to cut staff and RIF. And then there's whatever the frick this is: a sloppy, retaliatory purge against perceived political enemies (what do you mean the Career Civil Servant at DOJ told me that I can't start investigating journ*lists that say mean things?) masquerading as fiscal responsibility. What it really is, though, is an attempt to return to the spoils system—where loyalty, not competence, determines who gets to keep their job. It's the same playbook Musk uses when he "turns around" companies: gut the workforce, claim efficiency, ignore the rubble.
Look at Twitter. Musk fired 80% of the staff after taking the company private. Sure, you can't see the detailed 10-Ks anymore since it's his private shit show now, but 2024 estimates for adjusted EBITDA sit around $1.25 billion, on revenues between $2.7 and $2.9 billion. Compare that to the $5.1 billion Twitter was pulling in back in 2021—without even accounting for inflation.
And then there's the $1.2 billion annual interest on his payday loan for buying the darn company. So, with his loan payments and EBITDA, this little BIPOC is not even breaking even. Heck, I'd bet my bitcoin he's bleeding cash.
But hey, he's got something else: a platform to shill and rug-pull shitcoins for him and his purchased friends, say r-slurred neurodivergent shit, and manipulate public sentiment. That's great for pumping stock prices and stroking his ego. Clearly a heckin' ubermensch business genius and not a right-place, right-time Stragasaurus Rex.
In the end, half of the cute twink r-slurs screaming about "useless federal employees" are usually just bitter that anyone has the middle class life they don't. And in that sneeding, "I can't breed" rage, they're not so different from the shitlibs they hate.
!nonchuds
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Literally the only way now you will attract talent to the federal government is by having higher wages than the private sector. Previously it'd be that it's kind of cushy. You may not make as much, but you have to worry about job security far less. You also have to do less generally (though not always). Because of this, it attracted a lot of familymen and other folks who wanted job security to focus on other things. Who feel a job is just a job. Now without this job security, who will want to go through the agonizing experience that is working with the Federal Government? The only way you can attract people is by raising wages above that of the private sector (because it's better/less cumbersome out there). It also completely changes the composition of people working there (from griller I just want to work to support my family to I want money I want money types (plus the new spoils system)), for the worse imo. !grillers
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Everything I know about civil servants I learned from Yes, Minister
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Pretty accurate.
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It's incredible that in the time it took you to type all those paragraphs, you couldn't be bothered to read the second of the two I wrote.
I'm well aware that cutting jobs in the manner they're going about it is a terrible idea. My point was that small amounts of money add up quickly when there's millions of instances of it. This is an ongoing problem when it comes to wingcucks discussing the federal budget.
A great example would be in 2012 when Mitt Romney brought up the possibility of cutting funding for a bunch of federal programs, including the Corporation for Public Broadcasting. The universal response from Democrats and their affiliated media outlets was to point out that PBS only accounts for something like 0.02% of the federal budget, so it doesn't matter. All while failing to realize (or intentionally ignoring) that if you cut a few hundred programs like that, you've reduced the budget by a significant amount.
It's like !peakpoors saying buying some luxury item or another doesn't matter because it's only $5. Except it's not one item, it's three or four items, and it's not just once, it's every day of the year.
None of which has anything to do with whether or not Trump and Musk's plans and methods are feasible, much less advisable. But you're so wingcucked, you glossed right over that to argue a point I not only didn't make, but one I explicitly addressed specifically to preempt some massive screed like the one you just posted.
Also, all the "swinging peepee", "peepee-sucking", "butt-chugged", etc. for no reason other than to cram as much milquetoast—but seemingly edgy—profanity and pseudo-profanity into every sentence as possible really isn't going against my "what the 'r' in 'rDrama' stands for" jab.
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I LIKE TO HEAR MYSELF TALK THATS WHY I POST ON GAY CAT PAGE
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Oh frick off, we don't need them.
If we really do, then hire them back. You'll never know ahead of time because they'll all kick and scream about how necessary they are even if they really aren't.
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R*pedrama
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yeah but what is $47B in the grand sceme of things? DOGE is supposed to save us trillions?
All the real money flows into the private sector
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I can't speak for chuds, but in my experience with the blue/white collar divide, it's all about perspective.
To the blue collarcel, if they don't show up, shit doesn't get built, trains don't run on time and critical infrastructure fails.
From their perspective If the office workers don't show up, nothing bad happens because they don't understand what those jobs do.
I think that's what drives a lot of this sort of thinking. everyone likes to think their job is more important than what it is. Tradespeople are no exception.
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No I'm well aware my job is mostly useless but I am very good at it
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This is v true. When I was young and inexperienced I thought managers did nothing. It's only as I've become more senior and been responsible for delivering large multi-year projects that I came to understand how difficult it is organizing and coordinating all the different pieces.
Good management can make a project and bad management can break it. We'll see what the new management of the US gov does.
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They're not making that in the private sector. Definitely not getting the PTO, pension, and other retirement benefits.
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Functionally, this just means workers with in-demand skills just slack off after their probationary period. The government is basically considered semi-retirement for several professions. Less pay = less hours.
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They eventually will, when hiring takes off again. I feel a lot of sympathy for these people. It's fricking rough when your paycheck runs out and you don't seem to have any options. When the 2006 recession hit, I was still working a full time job, and my company laid off all the consultants working for us to try to avoid full-timer layoffs. Consultants expect to get laid off periodically, it's part of the gig, but these guys were FREAKING OUT because there were no other contracts anywhere in the country. It's not to that level right now, but it definitely isn't a good time to get laid off.
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Don't know how the monopoly money changes hands in Innsmouth, but a Trader Joe's assistant manger isn't making more than a corporate representative in burgerland.
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Lol they should learn to weld or how to build shit.
Trades are begging for people.
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Sure, but even union trades wages haven't kept up with inflation in the way that they should. All that has happened is that everyone blue collar r-slur has been convinced that working 80 hours weeks is a badge of honor.
Trades live and die on overtime.
Source: Union lineman
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R-slur take from a larping
communist.
Anyone whos worked in the industry knows the union is how you get all the education for free. But the money comes from private contracting after you journey out. There is no reason a welder shouldn't be making 90 to 150k a year in the private sector if they can pass a basic tig test.
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That's not that much money.
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It's more than the average fed employee salary. And it's definitely more than a
neet maxer.
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Where exactly are you getting this "
neet maxer" shit from?
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DEI jobs for ESL
!chuds is this what Asian Math tutors are called nowadays
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why would an asian need a special math tutor
usually they are the math tutors
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I had an Asian math tutor for my SATs
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I've never met a math tutor who wasn't asian
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I hope
NigerianSouth African Prince Elon succeeds in importing millions of H1-Bs that are willing to work 100 hours a week. We should spread the suck around, right!I'm sure Five Gays could use more tater cutters. !nonchuds
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Drama opportunity to start a GoFundMe to provide an AR and 2000 rounds of 5.56 to anyone negatively affected to cheer them up.
[Don't actually do this]
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Where was this concern during the post covid tech layoffs when literally hundreds of thousands of people lost their jobs in the private sector?
Frick off biatch, lrn2code.
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Yeah, but those people were actually useless.
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I can't wait for journos to write articles about how umm ackshually sweaty the economy shrinks by $1,000,000 for every glowie who's been laid off
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We really need to delete GDP and implement RLPC
Real life pricing coefficient, where cost of:
food
housing
car, repairs, healthcare etc
Is all calculated and the result is: how many hours does an average person need to work a week to achieve the absolute minimum acceptable lifestyle, post fees and taxes.
I can absolutely see some high GDP places being way lower on this list
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!effortposters pray for this man
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It's ok, I already regretted making this post
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It's never been easier to find a job. Trump is going to tank unemployment numbers but unless you are doing something esoteric that is pretty unique to the government world skills are transferable.
Gotta leave DC/MD/VA though.
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Awesome post, great job
!trolls !chuds !project2025 !trump2024 target rich environment, make sure to join in and give your own recommendations as to what to do now that we live in DRUMPH'S AMERICA
NO TRANS LIVES MATTER
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Mods can we get the word filter to change the words "employee" and "worker" to "servant"
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holy tldr
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tldr
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Good post !slots222
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The best part of all of this noise? Nothing will happen because they are gone
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