Where are the laid off feds supposed to work?
I am all for increasing efficiency and not tolerating poor performance (to be clear, I think those cases are uncommon), but it seems to be that a slower, more measured approach to reducing government size would've been more effective. I am genuinely confused when these huge swaths of people are supposed to find employment - especially when the private sector / contractors are also doing layoffs.
What is the plan? We as a country also can't sustain a significant chunk of the population being out of workโฆ
Probably in the service jobs mass deportation will free up. Literally, that's the only thing I can come up with and it's grim.
I don't see anyone doing that.
They will when times get desperate enough. Isn't that the Trump administration goal?
I would! My friend owns a contracting company and I offered to just carry stuff and pick up deliveries and maybe over time learn a trade.
Work is work and I still have a mortgage to pay
And they will stop buying things their middle class life enables them to buy, which will hurt local economies. Sorry, car dealer and restaurant and clothing store.
So you going to have hundreds of thousands of highly educated people making minimum wage at a five guys?
That is absurd. I would have no reason to go on living. Really predict this admin will result in a significant increase in suicides.
I'm not sure these establishments are a good match for folks with security clearances and expertise in their fields.
They're not. They're not supposed to find work. This is meant to be punitive and punishing to Feds and to those fired. Musk and Trump want to destroy the government as we know it. They don't care if these people can't find jobs or if the unemployment numbers go up(which they won't bc they'll be rigged). They don't care about the country or its overall wellbeing.
Seriously, look at a second degree nursing program. By the time your fork money ends you will be close to finished.
I left nursing to work in the government. It's fine but you have to be prepared to work overnights. That didn't work for my family so I had to leave the profession. It does take at least a year or two to get trained. A lot of hospitals these days will want BSN at a minimum.
Education. Teachers have been fleeing in droves.
That's because the same people tearing down our government have been attacking them for decades but have really amped it up since the pandemic.
We have a huge doctor shortage, but federal aid is unlikely to pay for med school moving forward. This isn't about shifting professions. It's about punishing people and making us willing to take any level of abuse in exchange for a minimally acceptable paycheck
naija doctors soon dey japa
Who wants to teach armed children for $50K a year?
I'm a lawyer in private practice and need to hire paralegals. Those jobs are in demand. Professional skills may transfer from government jobs. We pay well in legal.
Same
How much do you pay paralegals?
My backup plan is to drive a school bus. Seriously.
did Trump just solve the bus driver shortage?
I am going to try to find a job at a bakery. Baking is a big hobby of mine, and while I can't earn no money at all, I don't really need to earn my former salary, since I am married.
Walmart managers can can make over $200,000. Walmart promotes from within Walmart prefers to hire college graduates to these positions but many many people which is high school degrees get promoted to Walmart managers if they have the right hustle.
Getting into education might be hard, because you have to compete as a new teacher with more experienced teachers for those juicy admin roles where you answer emails and don't fricking teach
There are plenty of admin openings at gatehouse, along with school based roles and FCPS has a provisional licensure program. It might not be viable for people
Making GS 13+ money but it's definitely not school based only
I'm aware of the provisional program. I went through a very similar one in another county. It took me a year, several licensure exams, student teaching experience, and 9 credits.
And those admin positionsโฆ you'll be up against the many teachers fleeing the classroom right now. They have education experience on their resumes and understand the field well.
Probably in the service jobs mass deportation will free up. Literally, that's the only thing I can come up with and it's grim.
Right... how am I supposed to pay a mortgage on a service job. Also, a bit strange you would even want someone in service with a PhD in physics.
I kind of wonder what the enrollment impact will be on our public schools when families find themselves unable to afford private tuition too
That's one of the positive outcomes in my opinion. Private schools locally will tank, there are too many anyhow, and when you have educated parents reinvolved with public schools they will flourish.
Plus, super easy to become a substitute teacher to make a least part of the money to pay bills.
Um, I think they just want to spend less on tuition
And they will stop buying things their middle class life enables them to buy, which will hurt local economies. Sorry, car dealer and restaurant and clothing store.
Not just those. We decided to cut down groceries and limit gift giving, trim vacations, etc. It's literally a ricochet to everyone
when i was a kid vacation was going to grandma's house for a week, but dc urban moms go on vacation and come back bitter and unrefreshed when they notice women in Paris, France, are skinnier than them.
"it's totally cigarettes at least I won't get cancer"
a tangent....
In April of last year, DC Urban moms had a panicked 22 page discussion about Disney World changing their Autism line skipper policies to be more strict. It was one of the most pressing concerns that week on DC Urban Moms.
DH is "dear husband" he has some kind of spergery that gave him special Disney World privileges. I don't know what the acronyms are. Disboards is the very active Disney forum, for Disney Adults who plan their Walt Disney Worldยฎ Resort trip 18 months in advance, and talk about it every single day to other Disboard members.
back to the sneeding...
How many feds can afford to send their kids to private schools?
There's a lot of tuition daylight between St Albans and some random storefront "classical" school and I suspect a lot of families are stretching to send their kids to both.
So you going to have hundreds of thousands of highly educated people making minimum wage at a five guys?
That is absurd. I would have no reason to go on living. Really predict this admin will result in a significant increase in suicides.
That's your choice.
Wow!! Zero empathy. What happened to you to make you this inhuman?
empathy is when capitulate to suicide baiting
Anyone who has ever been friends with a suicide whiner knows how unsustainable this is
I'm sorry if you were struggling. I certainly never mocked anyone.
You do realize these illegal firings will just lead to more struggles for everyone, right?
DP. This may not land the way you want it to. A lot of us can't afford house cleaners, car detailing, lawn care, travel, and home renovation. Those are luxuries. So cutting back on that stuff simply takes you to the lifestyle many of us are already living.
This isn't a zero sum game, Sandra. Your persecution complex is the problem โ not other people.
I work in the private sector, in a white collar job that has had layoffs. Do you think laying off the government employees will help the private sector folks?
I understand why no one has sympathy for you as you seem to be a nasty individual.
This- it is all connected. We should be terrified of the impact not giddily gleeful.
NP but if one has so little grit that a job loss would make them commit suicide and leave [their spouse, kids] holding the bag thenโฆ not much sympathy.
I am highly educated and if I had to, I would hold my head high and do one of those service jobs, be thankful someone hired me, and know there was probably a light at the end of the tunnel once the admin changed.
The admin is not going to change, fool. We are living through the end stage of American democracy. Wake the F up.
Not when everyone in a specific region is laid off and tightening their belts. Restaurants will have trouble staying open as well.
All those "service" jobs mentioned earlier will struggle to stay in business and will layoff too. Who has the money for those places when they are not employed? I've already cut them from my budget.
Not just those. We decided to cut down groceries and limit gift giving, trim vacations, etc. It's literally a ricochet to everyone
No more house cleaner, hair salon or landscapers for us.
WAIT YOU GUYS HAVE HOUSE CLEANERS AND LANDSCAPERS???
No more house cleaner, hair salon or landscapers for us.
Same.
Trump plan is for fired Feds to replace jobs vacated by the deported illegals. Not a joke. He thinks fired Feds will have no choice after the unemployment benefits run out. People have to eat and need shelter
I'm curious where your concerns have been for the last four years. Throughout this time, anyone who wasn't affiliated with the federal government has been shouting from the rooftops that white collar jobs were getting cut, and people were suffering as a result.
I'm guessing you were among those saying that Tysons II was crowded and that the right-wing individuals were just stupid and lazy.
For the past four years, the DMV bubble has been told that jobs were scarce and budgets were tight, but we were all ignored.
There has been zero sympathy. And I have none to give in return.
DMV I think stands for: DC, and Maryland, Virginia (the parts next to DC)
It's time to think outside the box on income options.
For example, if you have a spare bedroom in your house, consider renting it out. I am divorced, and my kids are grown. As much as I hate the idea of a roommate, I would consider renting my two spare bedrooms as a last resort.
Other options include childcare, respite foster care, eldercare, substitute teaching, and dog walking. Many of the solutions will lie in the entrepreneurial realm.
childcare - agree, but there will be much less demand if these Gilead commanders get their way and less women are working
respite foster care - funded by who?
eldercare - hope Medicare holds up during the collapse
substitute teaching - no way, they are cutting school funding all over the place. We are less than 5 years from them putting 100+ kids in a room with a recorded curriculum. Maybe 1 or 2 minimum wage room monitors... or I don't even want to say this but "cell block" type rooms where guards video monitor multiple rooms and only intervene if there are problems. Sounds crazy now but schools have becoming more prisonish for decades and i guarantee cutting teachers and using tech in its place is on the docket.
Dog walking - with what disposable income? Again, more women at home. Some work here but trust that in the long vision, women are back to doing (even more) free domestic labor.
How much do you pay paralegals?
Np, and same question. I was a federal paralegal for 13 years. I enjoyed the sedentary nature of the work.
I can't find the bottom of the seethe
thanks again, Trump voters.
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Any teachers in your family? Dept of Ed funding cuts already have schools talking about how they'll need to lay off teachers and make classrooms bigger; special needs or ESL teachers lol that all counts as DEI now.
I'll finally have to join an MLM pyramid scheme and work my way to the top!
some DCUM posters are already in MLMs but unironically (They are mormon fedwives and cannot get a 9-5 job for religious reasons)
I thought you all wanted to be retrained to install solar panels. It's what you suggested last time major layoffs occurred.
what's this a refrence to
Let me see. After earning a Ph.D. and and 20 years into a successful career in government contracting, I can work at Costco during the day which won't pay my bills (including the childcare I will need to work at Costco), get a nursing degree at night, and then be a nurse for half of what I currently make. Sounds great.
What about server positions? Easily $40-$50 per hour.
In a few months, no one will be eating out.
It is a sad situation. Have any of the feds who voted for trump and now got laid off realized they shouldn't have done it?
Feds have been whining for weeks now about how little they make. Yet when given everyday jobs that are similar pay they turn their nose up at the ideas. This is why people don't respect you anymore.
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The pages I'm reading now are devolving into increasing novel posting about how I made it in the past
and increased infighting
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I'll do them. Just not for 16 leafbucks an hour
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but that is what the job is worth to make a profit.
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Then close half of them and use the increase profits from the remaining to pay me more
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but that doesn't work because you do not have a monopoly on the business. If you close half the shops then the other competing business opens up the same number of shops.
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Genocide?
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I don't think so?
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What if we bombed all thirdies?
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US blacks alone could invade and conquer Canada if they so wished.
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Why would they want to?
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lmao the winter would freeze them out.
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No?
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Nah, the market balances itself out
Either the job is paid more, or people stop buying the thing and the market for it disappears.
Based on some simple logic, it's easier for a company to hire H1B migrants that can come from anywhere in the world, than it is for a worker to find a job anywhere in the world, because most require relocation.
Therefore, companies pay less.
Now if we could teleport our houses and there were no borders, maybe this globalism thing wouldn't be lowering our wages
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lol. It would be lowering wages even faster because there are more poor people willing to do jobs for less in the world than the number of jobs that can only be performed by rich workers protesting.
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