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Lmao :marseycocaine:

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being diplomatic is....le braindead!

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He should consider being diplomatic with Trump next time :marseysmug2:

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This entire show was staged from beginning to end in bad faith and this was the pre-determined outcome. Trump made up his mind 6 months ago to not support Ukraine when Zelensky showed up in Pennsylvania to help the dems campaign. There is no point in kissing the ring.

Best course of action was to make Trump and Vance chimp out live on TV and get Europeans to donate more money, seems to succeed so far.

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Europe can't donate more money since every country is broke. We're literally taking loans to give Ukraine shit and there's only so long this situation can go on. If Zelensky can't figure out a way to suck Trump's peepee then Ukraine is finished. Should have signed that darn mineral deal already :marseyshrug:

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donating money is not a zero-sum situation if it means increased military spending for all of EU to re-arm. IT means creating thousands of new jobs and bringing back factories that were outsourced to the US. also same logic applies to Russia, they are broke too, and EU can obviously outlast them as the economy is 10x bigger.

And the "Ukraine is le finished now!! " take is r-slurred. We had a period of 6 months where no US aid came through and since then the US only accounts for 30% of military aid to Ukraine, 40% is self produced and 30% is from EU. At worst it will mean that Russia takes the entire Donbass by 2027 at a walking pace, maybe donkey pace.

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lol cope

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dilate

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Europe doesn't have factories, industry, and it barely has some agriculture. It's population is ageing and migrants are a net drain on the national budget. Between all the bureaucracy, the net zero emissions and the concerns for not bothering the habitat of the blue footed locus, it will take ages for a proper military industry to take shape, and decades for it to match Russia's.

So in six months Ukraine already burned through most of the weapons it got from America and now it won't receive new equipment. Besides, Ukraine relies on America for a lot more than just weapons, like starlink and military intelligence, those being cut off will severely limit their army. And again, Europe can't keep suppling Ukraine for much longer.

You're also forgetting that EU doesn't have any allies aside from the anglosphere and maybe Capitalist Korea and Japan while Russia gets help from the whole Third World. Russia will outlast Europe. Ukraine can't survive without America.

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Europe doesn't have agriculture.

Europe is self-sufficient on agriculture, what the frick are you on about lol. Europe has energy problems that will largely be solved by the incoming gas pipelines connecting middle east to EU.

Europe doesn't have factories, industry

Automotive industry is yuge in EU, there are plenty of factories that can and will be re-purposed. There are plenty of military factories and we are already outproducing artillery compared to US.

its population is ageing

Also applies to Russia, and China. even more-so. Only France and USA are exempt from this trend in terms of big players.

migrants are a net drain on the national budget

Chuds can seethe all they want, at the end of the day migrants represent a rounding error on any national budget.

the net zero emissions and the concerns for not bothering the habitat of the blue footed locus

not wrong and the environmental policies will need to be the first thing to sacrifice in this new epoch.

it will take ages for a proper military industry to take shape, and decades for it to match Russia's.

Completely and utterly false. Norks already supply 50% of Russia's artillery shells these days and the artillery advantage has been reduced from 10:1 to 2:1. The entire soviet arsenal is gone by end of 2026 at this pace, and they only produce about 250 refurbished new tanks a year. EU is lagging behind on production in artillery still but by current estimates it will take 24 months and thats not accounting for increased war-time spending.

like starlink and military intelligence

Starlink is bought and paid for by Poland and will not be touched as per recent comments. Slightly inferior alternatives exist as well. What military intelligence? The only thing that can't be substituted are SIGINT military satellites with unknown capabilities. Anyone can buy satellite images in real-time these days with <30cm resolution. Ukrainians and EU have AWACS. Drones have largely claimed operational and tactical SIGINT gathering. Ukrainians have an established HUMINT operation in Russia already. There is nothing the US possesses that cant be substituted here.

Europe can't keep suppling Ukraine for much longer

Aid on the current pace has already been secured well into 2027 and we're barely spending 2/10'ths of what we spent on the Gulf War.

So in six months Ukraine already burned through most of the weapons it got from America and now it won't receive new equipment.

Which would primarily hurt things that can't be substituted: Patriot missiles, IFV's, reserve parts. Again, american aid has become increasingly irrelevant and most of the important stuff (Air defense batteries, ATACMS, HIMARS) have already been delivered and used to its utmost effect.

Russia gets help from the whole Third World. Russia will outlast Europe

BRICS is a meme and backstab Russia on the first sign they can make a deal with Europe.

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Why are you so r-slurred?

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Ahahahha he's the r-slur hahahahah oh my goodness. Get ready for the trench europoor

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FAITH LEVEL

BAD

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Nuclear :#cope: :#marseyxdorbit:

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Normally you try to be diplomatic the first time and not after chimping out at the white house.

This is Zelenskys apology tour now

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We already know Vance and Trump chimped out with their rehearsed arguments and staged attack, what about zelenskyy?

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Zelensky started it you coping Buffon.

Kiss my ring

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politely asking If he can explain to Vance why Russia cant be trusted is le.... provocative!!!

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"politely" lol keep sucking the zuckensky

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Snowflake

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Thank you for your support.

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>politely

:#surewalz:

I'm sure the seething under breath suka was polite as well

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A polite response to a whiny b-word like Vance.

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Fire bombing a Walmart is the reddit brained shitlib go to strategy

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Screeching on Twitter thanking everyone but America and being a blatant cute twink in the tweet to the US who paid half of their bill is diplomatic if you're a fricking europoor

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Screeching on Twitter thanking everyone but America...

literal first tweet after the incident:

R-slur.

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>thanks for this visit

>we need just and lasting peace, so more war is needed

Yes little buddy everyone but you is r-slurred. If that is the thanks we get after billions to some no name shithole nobody cares about, I want a refund.

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>got insta-deboonked

>starts chimping out

classic.

No refunds!

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I realize facing one of the weakest militaries on the planet must be terrifying for you. Thoughts and prayers lol

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I don't mind EU footing the whole bill and I don't think Russia's army is competent enough to do anything than take Donbass by 2027 while expending their entire army doing so. I'm very happy about the current situation actually.

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Mentioning Reagan is just surreal.

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