This entire show was staged from beginning to end in bad faith and this was the pre-determined outcome. Trump made up his mind 6 months ago to not support Ukraine when Zelensky showed up in Pennsylvania to help the dems campaign. There is no point in kissing the ring.
Best course of action was to make Trump and Vance chimp out live on TV and get Europeans to donate more money, seems to succeed so far.
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Europe can't donate more money since every country is broke. We're literally taking loans to give Ukraine shit and there's only so long this situation can go on. If Zelensky can't figure out a way to suck Trump's peepee then Ukraine is finished. Should have signed that darn mineral deal already
donating money is not a zero-sum situation if it means increased military spending for all of EU to re-arm. IT means creating thousands of new jobs and bringing back factories that were outsourced to the US. also same logic applies to Russia, they are broke too, and EU can obviously outlast them as the economy is 10x bigger.
And the "Ukraine is le finished now!! " take is r-slurred. We had a period of 6 months where no US aid came through and since then the US only accounts for 30% of military aid to Ukraine, 40% is self produced and 30% is from EU. At worst it will mean that Russia takes the entire Donbass by 2027 at a walking pace, maybe donkey pace.
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Europe doesn't have factories, industry, and it barely has some agriculture. It's population is ageing and migrants are a net drain on the national budget. Between all the bureaucracy, the net zero emissions and the concerns for not bothering the habitat of the blue footed locus, it will take ages for a proper military industry to take shape, and decades for it to match Russia's.
So in six months Ukraine already burned through most of the weapons it got from America and now it won't receive new equipment. Besides, Ukraine relies on America for a lot more than just weapons, like starlink and military intelligence, those being cut off will severely limit their army. And again, Europe can't keep suppling Ukraine for much longer.
You're also forgetting that EU doesn't have any allies aside from the anglosphere and maybe Capitalist Korea and Japan while Russia gets help from the whole Third World. Russia will outlast Europe. Ukraine can't survive without America.
Europe is self-sufficient on agriculture, what the frick are you on about lol. Europe has energy problems that will largely be solved by the incoming gas pipelines connecting middle east to EU.
Europe doesn't have factories, industry
Automotive industry is yuge in EU, there are plenty of factories that can and will be re-purposed. There are plenty of military factories and we are already outproducing artillery compared to US.
its population is ageing
Also applies to Russia, and China. even more-so. Only France and USA are exempt from this trend in terms of big players.
migrants are a net drain on the national budget
Chuds can seethe all they want, at the end of the day migrants represent a rounding error on any national budget.
the net zero emissions and the concerns for not bothering the habitat of the blue footed locus
not wrong and the environmental policies will need to be the first thing to sacrifice in this new epoch.
it will take ages for a proper military industry to take shape, and decades for it to match Russia's.
Completely and utterly false. Norks already supply 50% of Russia's artillery shells these days and the artillery advantage has been reduced from 10:1 to 2:1. The entire soviet arsenal is gone by end of 2026 at this pace, and they only produce about 250 refurbished new tanks a year. EU is lagging behind on production in artillery still but by current estimates it will take 24 months and thats not accounting for increased war-time spending.
like starlink and military intelligence
Starlink is bought and paid for by Poland and will not be touched as per recent comments. Slightly inferior alternatives exist as well. What military intelligence? The only thing that can't be substituted are SIGINT military satellites with unknown capabilities. Anyone can buy satellite images in real-time these days with <30cm resolution. Ukrainians and EU have AWACS. Drones have largely claimed operational and tactical SIGINT gathering. Ukrainians have an established HUMINT operation in Russia already. There is nothing the US possesses that cant be substituted here.
Europe can't keep suppling Ukraine for much longer
Aid on the current pace has already been secured well into 2027 and we're barely spending 2/10'ths of what we spent on the Gulf War.
So in six months Ukraine already burned through most of the weapons it got from America and now it won't receive new equipment.
Which would primarily hurt things that can't be substituted: Patriot missiles, IFV's, reserve parts. Again, american aid has become increasingly irrelevant and most of the important stuff (Air defense batteries, ATACMS, HIMARS) have already been delivered and used to its utmost effect.
Russia gets help from the whole Third World. Russia will outlast Europe
BRICS is a meme and backstab Russia on the first sign they can make a deal with Europe.
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Screeching on Twitter thanking everyone but America and being a blatant cute twink in the tweet to the US who paid half of their bill is diplomatic if you're a fricking europoor
Screeching on Twitter thanking everyone but America...
literal first tweet after the incident:
Thank you America, thank you for your support, thank you for this visit. Thank you @POTUS, Congress, and the American people. Ukraine needs just and lasting peace, and we are working exactly for that.
β Volodymyr Zelenskyy / ΠΠΎΠ»ΠΎΠ΄ΠΈΠΌΠΈΡ ΠΠ΅Π»Π΅Π½ΡΡΠΊΠΈΠΉ (@ZelenskyyUa) February 28, 2025
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>thanks for this visit
>we need just and lasting peace, so more war is needed
Yes little buddy everyone but you is r-slurred. If that is the thanks we get after billions to some no name shithole nobody cares about, I want a refund.
I don't mind EU footing the whole bill and I don't think Russia's army is competent enough to do anything than take Donbass by 2027 while expending their entire army doing so. I'm very happy about the current situation actually.
Apperently the only way to show the stupid chuds all the benefits they enjoy due to the soft power their country has, is by showing the consequences of losing it all. This will be a fun 4 years where increasingly more of them will have to face the reality, they've put themselves into, @HailVictory1776 was just a start.
Why is fricking there an arrow to that one sentence implying that they copypasted that one sentence when the fricking entire tweet is fricking copypasted, b-word?
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>Buckbroken
That word doesn't mean what you think it does.... Hearing you use it it like that reminds me of Redditors who've just heard about "bad faith" and "logical fallacies".
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If U.S. was ready to fight till the last Ukrainian then I am ready to fight till the last Cold War boomer that on Facebook supports Ukraine and is angry that youth don't want to fight for their Cold War fetish, I am against ageism
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This buck be broken
https://old.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/1j0y8zb/in_a_series_of_tweets_zelensky_clearly_reaffirms/
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Lmao
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being diplomatic is....le braindead!
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He should consider being diplomatic with Trump next time
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This entire show was staged from beginning to end in bad faith and this was the pre-determined outcome. Trump made up his mind 6 months ago to not support Ukraine when Zelensky showed up in Pennsylvania to help the dems campaign. There is no point in kissing the ring.
Best course of action was to make Trump and Vance chimp out live on TV and get Europeans to donate more money, seems to succeed so far.
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Europe can't donate more money since every country is broke. We're literally taking loans to give Ukraine shit and there's only so long this situation can go on. If Zelensky can't figure out a way to suck Trump's peepee then Ukraine is finished. Should have signed that darn mineral deal already
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donating money is not a zero-sum situation if it means increased military spending for all of EU to re-arm. IT means creating thousands of new jobs and bringing back factories that were outsourced to the US. also same logic applies to Russia, they are broke too, and EU can obviously outlast them as the economy is 10x bigger.
And the "Ukraine is le finished now!! " take is r-slurred. We had a period of 6 months where no US aid came through and since then the US only accounts for 30% of military aid to Ukraine, 40% is self produced and 30% is from EU. At worst it will mean that Russia takes the entire Donbass by 2027 at a walking pace, maybe donkey pace.
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Europe doesn't have factories, industry, and it barely has some agriculture. It's population is ageing and migrants are a net drain on the national budget. Between all the bureaucracy, the net zero emissions and the concerns for not bothering the habitat of the blue footed locus, it will take ages for a proper military industry to take shape, and decades for it to match Russia's.
So in six months Ukraine already burned through most of the weapons it got from America and now it won't receive new equipment. Besides, Ukraine relies on America for a lot more than just weapons, like starlink and military intelligence, those being cut off will severely limit their army. And again, Europe can't keep suppling Ukraine for much longer.
You're also forgetting that EU doesn't have any allies aside from the anglosphere and maybe Capitalist Korea and Japan while Russia gets help from the whole Third World. Russia will outlast Europe. Ukraine can't survive without America.
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Europe is self-sufficient on agriculture, what the frick are you on about lol. Europe has energy problems that will largely be solved by the incoming gas pipelines connecting middle east to EU.
Automotive industry is yuge in EU, there are plenty of factories that can and will be re-purposed. There are plenty of military factories and we are already outproducing artillery compared to US.
Also applies to Russia, and China. even more-so. Only France and USA are exempt from this trend in terms of big players.
Chuds can seethe all they want, at the end of the day migrants represent a rounding error on any national budget.
not wrong and the environmental policies will need to be the first thing to sacrifice in this new epoch.
Completely and utterly false. Norks already supply 50% of Russia's artillery shells these days and the artillery advantage has been reduced from 10:1 to 2:1. The entire soviet arsenal is gone by end of 2026 at this pace, and they only produce about 250 refurbished new tanks a year. EU is lagging behind on production in artillery still but by current estimates it will take 24 months and thats not accounting for increased war-time spending.
Starlink is bought and paid for by Poland and will not be touched as per recent comments. Slightly inferior alternatives exist as well. What military intelligence? The only thing that can't be substituted are SIGINT military satellites with unknown capabilities. Anyone can buy satellite images in real-time these days with <30cm resolution. Ukrainians and EU have AWACS. Drones have largely claimed operational and tactical SIGINT gathering. Ukrainians have an established HUMINT operation in Russia already. There is nothing the US possesses that cant be substituted here.
Aid on the current pace has already been secured well into 2027 and we're barely spending 2/10'ths of what we spent on the Gulf War.
Which would primarily hurt things that can't be substituted: Patriot missiles, IFV's, reserve parts. Again, american aid has become increasingly irrelevant and most of the important stuff (Air defense batteries, ATACMS, HIMARS) have already been delivered and used to its utmost effect.
BRICS is a meme and backstab Russia on the first sign they can make a deal with Europe.
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Why are you so r-slurred?
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Ahahahha he's the r-slur hahahahah oh my goodness. Get ready for the trench europoor
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lol cope
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dilate
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FAITH LEVEL
BAD
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Nuclear

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Normally you try to be diplomatic the first time and not after chimping out at the white house.
This is Zelenskys apology tour now
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We already know Vance and Trump chimped out with their rehearsed arguments and staged attack, what about zelenskyy?
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Zelensky started it you coping Buffon.
Kiss my ring
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politely asking If he can explain to Vance why Russia cant be trusted is le.... provocative!!!
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"politely" lol keep sucking the zuckensky
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Snowflake
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Thank you for your support.
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I'm sure the seething under breath suka was polite as well
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A polite response to a whiny b-word like Vance.
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Fire bombing a Walmart is the reddit brained shitlib go to strategy
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Screeching on Twitter thanking everyone but America and being a blatant cute twink in the tweet to the US who paid half of their bill is diplomatic if you're a fricking europoor
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literal first tweet after the incident:
R-slur.
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Yes little buddy everyone but you is r-slurred. If that is the thanks we get after billions to some no name shithole nobody cares about, I want a refund.
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classic.
No refunds!
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I realize facing one of the weakest militaries on the planet must be terrifying for you. Thoughts and prayers lol
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I don't mind EU footing the whole bill and I don't think Russia's army is competent enough to do anything than take Donbass by 2027 while expending their entire army doing so. I'm very happy about the current situation actually.
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Mentioning Reagan is just surreal.
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Chuds cheering as their Trump daddy makes the US the laughing stock of the entire world. Just the usual.
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Needs a bit more orange and your marsey is a perfect representation of him.
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Go back to your groomercord server
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Go back to your groomercord server.
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Aren't you European why do you serious post on a drama site about a country you don't live in
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Trump completely destroying all the soft power the US had, and giving more and more advantages to its geopolitical enemies, effects everyone.
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Possibly but kvetching about it gets you nowhere. Take the grillpill. !grillers
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You mean the "this is fine" pill?
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No, the go back to your groomercord server pill
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Nah, and none of that soft power meant anything when Biden was in charge. He's a weak old man who had no balls.
Where do you get such r-slurred takes? It's weird how common it is among progressives and libtards around the world.
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Apperently the only way to show the stupid chuds all the benefits they enjoy due to the soft power their country has, is by showing the consequences of losing it all. This will be a fun 4 years where increasingly more of them will have to face the reality, they've put themselves into,
@HailVictory1776 was just a start.
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Yeah, that's very real and important.
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We just need to fund more trans surgeries in Ukraine to increase our soft power not fund war.
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Funny you all say the same thing like you all watch the same straggy YouTuber you get your political opinions from.
0 evidence 0 actual points.
Maybe you should be stronger but can't when home depot outperforms the entire EU.
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I don't watch political youtubers because they are cringe, I instead watch youtubers who do video essays about anime shows.
Check her out she is great: https://youtube.com/@inakyu
Anyways, here is the debunk to your other stupid point:
https://old.reddit.com/r/ProfessorFinance/comments/1ix45rz/home_depot_is_more_valuable_than_all_major_eu/mej3gxo/?context=8
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This is even worse and you should keep yourself safe, now
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so this was enough to trigger you so, lmao, what a thin skin
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I'm not triggered just talking., way to out your projection.
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Telling someone to kill themselves, is way deep in triggered territory. You should realize your words reveal your emotional state.
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Lmao he told someone to ctrl+v everyone.
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Why is fricking there an arrow to that one sentence implying that they copypasted that one sentence when the fricking entire tweet is fricking copypasted, b-word?
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This screen was stolen by me, I don't know the original author of that screen or why he drew those lines
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wow, a bunch of EU reprentatives conveying the same message as the EU chief. what a massive conspiracy theory! Are you clinically brain dead?
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Literally the same thing
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What conspiracy? That they are poor and using same speech writer?
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Never beating the
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Canada famously never gets anything from America
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And they deserve it. In ABUNDANCE!
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You rly think Trump/musk are lasting 4 years
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You are witnessing the rise of the thousand year Trumpenreich

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1st Triumvirate?
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Worked out well for the last guy
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It'll work for me
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This is who organizes le gayoperinos on nudrama dot net
Scratch a dramatard dot txt
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LMAO you got 1 monthed? Hope you do end up touching some grass
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That word doesn't mean what you think it does.... Hearing you use it it like that reminds me of Redditors who've just heard about "bad faith" and "logical fallacies".
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I read Tariq's book and you clearly haven't.
Sit down and shut up.
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words lose all meaning on rdrama.net, post bussy ASAP

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its true i have seen on tv trump and vance pull his pants down and do the needful live while telling him to say thank you
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zoz
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zle
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Rightoids get dunked on and are so r-slurred they think they're doing the dunking. Must be nice!
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Must be a fricking day that starts with S lol
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Thank you for your support!
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If U.S. was ready to fight till the last Ukrainian then I am ready to fight till the last Cold War boomer that on Facebook supports Ukraine and is angry that youth don't want to fight for their Cold War fetish, I am against ageism
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Sweaty your runon sentences are worse than the boomers.
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They are very figurative and symbolic
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Maybe he secretly is the white woman that he hates
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I think he's sundowning. We'll have to put him down soon
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LMMAOOOOO he needs to get him to tuck his peepee in too
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Done.
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Europeans want their cake and eat it too. Either publically suck daddies peepee or stop kitty footing and put up the money/arms/men ukraine wants
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Snapshots:
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