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lol this would make Reddit pretty worked up (67)
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Posted it in the /r/Europe subreddit. They tried telling me Biden was justified because he was "trying to help" Zelensky 🤣 (47)
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Reddit is on fire right now. Being as it's a massive left wing echo chamber with a general iq of a potato. No one seems to grasp its thier tax dollars funding this war. Little shit can't even come to the White house in a suit. The world saw what happens when you bite the hand that feeds you, but somehow, it's the hand's fault when it strikes back. (31)
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He did seem bent on trying to sabotage the agreement. This started with his sneering and condescending remark to Vance when he rejected efforts of diplomacy with Putin. When he visited Pennsylvania in October during the homestretch of the election and openly campaigned with Democrats, he called Vance a "radical, which is a pretty wild and inappropriate thing to say about a candidate in another country's election. He really despises Vance and the second he opened his mouth to support Trump's diplomatic efforts he could no longer hide his disdain for him. (1)
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If you understand that then you know russia isnt nuking anyone. Peace is nothing without justice. Ukraine was attacked unprovoked twice with thousands of innocence killed. Peace isnt enough. Russia has to give up something for there to be justice. If they arent willing to do that then why should ukraine stop trying to take their land back russia stole? (1)
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Any suggestion that we shouldn't give more tax money to a foreign war that's going nowhere is Russian propaganda
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The value of this war was wearing down Russia without actually having to fight them. I feel like we've done that enough so now I don't really care
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Russia has an endless supply of forests and sticks, so it can't be worn down as long as there's angry men and sticks in Russia.
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Yeah, but they don't breed (so does euROPE)
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i bet we can ship in more indians than they can
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i volunteer !bharatiya
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https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cly6ve2x72xo
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FYI David is the hasbeen gimmick BIPOC with the worst fricking gimmick and i've always hated him since his first comment
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Listen up, saars. We must defend Saxony from the invading hordes of subhuman slavjeets or our entire culture will perish from the earth.
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!mathematics what's the "dollars of US aid per dead russian" number?
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Estimated 200,000 dead Russians (800k-1M total casualties).
$174B from the US.
About $870,000 per dead Russian.
That's a fantastic discount, the GWOT was anywhere between $1-4T and we had to do it ourselves instead of outsourcing cheap labor.
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I could do it for way cheaper.
Just send me in with my swords.
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It's funny because both Russia and Ukraine are claiming to have caused a gorillion casualties.
Some of the US "estimates" suggest they've lost more people than in World War 1, it's ridiculous.
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When it comes to casualties, you have to include total loss in available fighting capability.
Death, injury, desertion, and missing. And as far as injuries go, the type that makes it so a soldier cannot fight, even if it's a broken arm and takes him out of the fight for a couple months in a cast and longer for rehabilitation.
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You want to bring it down to 100,000 USD per dead Russian or it is not worth it accounting for how many Russians there are in total.
Also the total dead has to be way more than 200,000 otherwise Russia wouldn't need to emergency conscript hundreds of thousands of more people every single year.
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That's true, it needs to cost lower than their recruitment and training
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Not true, Russia has Europe-level demographic issues (the elderly one, not the chud one) so this will cost them dearly, unless they can shit out 200k new native ruskies.
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They are right next to Central Asia they can get as many people as they want from there for the next 30-40 years.
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No, they will be competing with Europe and lose. Who the frick would want to move to the most depressing country in the world. Had a friend move to Russia two weeks before the war to "live the trad life" and even HE had to move back because Russia sucked so bad.
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Drad Russians are great and all, but that is just hastening the demographic collapse that was already inevitable.
Gutting their irreplaceable (by them) Soviet military stockpile and setting their economy back by decades is the real prize here. Fricking over hypocritical Germany (Nordstream) as well is just an extra bonus for me
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Anyone who kvetches about spending a fraction of a percent of the national GDP to hire hohols to kill Russians is either a zigger or contrarian. It has been dirt cheap to keep Russia bogged down in their quagmire that they cannot back out of.
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Or a moralsstrag? Maybe feeding the meat grinder with hundreds of thousands of people isn't a good thing?
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Zelenskyy and Putin could come to a pragmatic agreement whenever they want. As long as they are both unwilling to compromise their war aims I see no reason not to continually spray vinegar into Russia's wounds. I don't see American support as a bargaining chip to pressure Ukraine as Europe would just step in more if America withdrew support. It's just geopolitics. I'd support the same for if ever China invaded Taiwan.
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It's morally grey actually
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unironically, to the extent they've been 'worn down", it's not worth the cost.
i mean yeah yeah "all dead russians are good" or whatever but realistically does this war mean we can reduce our military spending because russia has been "worn down"? no it doesn't. so what was gained?
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Why would you want to reduce military spending? It's the lifeblood of the USA
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plus its the lifeblood of the countries we bomb
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Russia hasn't been a military threat (ignoring nukes) since the Cold War. The military was never going to lose funding. The only difference is the MIC will ctrl+f all their docs to swap China in for Russia
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Exactly, no shit. That's why this is a pointless waste of money. It's not getting us anything. It doesn't get us cost savings, and it doesn't get us more security, since Russia's frankly not really a threat to us anyways.
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There's a lot of room between threat and a a complete non-entity. Gutting the Russians just moves them much closer to the latter and knocks out a regional opponent letting the US pivot all the more to Asia.
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But they haven't been gutted r-slur. Not in any way that matters. They still pose EXACTLY as much threat to the US as they did previously. They have nuclear warheads, that is their threat, and this war has done nothing to diminish that.
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Yeah, throwing away the majority of their conventional military equipment, that they cant replace, and running their economy into the ground will have no impact on future dumb shit Russia might try to pull
Even if it is just in their own backyard.
Russia wasn't more than a regional player for the last 20 years and now we've guaranteed they'll barely be even that for several more. And all that at a premium discount.
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All this assuming the US can pivot to China (something that's been trying to be done since Bush) and such a pivot would last past the current administration (the Dems are now incredibly likely to go balls deep into Atlanticism).
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Plus they've been devoting far more money towards their military. The Soviet stockpile was drained, but they designed new weapons and built new methods for producing them.
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never enough
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What? They're stronger than ever
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But we're not giving them any money! We're giving them 5 year old military equipment (that was purchased with tax dollars) so we can buy brand new equipment from Raytheon (with tax dollars). Get Putin's peepee out of your mouth, bigot.
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Oh no the government is using tax dollars to buy shit from American companies this is awful
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This guy thinks we put in orders to replace lost equipment instead of just rolling hundreds of tanks straight off the assembly line into storage so that a factory in Ohio doesn't shut down.
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We should
Israel tho, because launching javelins at random run down shacks in the middle of the desert goes somewhere somehow??? 
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It goes to BASEDVILLE LLC for every toweljead that gets turned into a Gorey mist
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It's only going nowhere bc we aren't giving them enough money and shit. They need f35's and nuclear powered submarines!
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At this point it's pretty clear both sides are r-slurred.
Z wants a ceasefire treaty that includes security guarantees. He was prepared to sign an exclusive deal with the US that gets Donny his rare earths cutting out other countries but Donny was too dumb to get it.
Now there is going to be a multilateral treaty that doesn't get the US resource exclusively but does have US logistics and air support which is exactly what the US would have offered if Donny wasn't r-slurred. UK will be providing peacekeeping forces, probably also with France and token forces from other countries.
Russia have increased tempo because they want the ceasefire line to be as favourable to it as possible.
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I hope you're right, but I don't think its just the idiot on Reddit who consider prewar borders as non-negotiable, which Russia would never go for. And that's ignoring the ones demanding 2014 borders.
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They are going for a Kosovo solution. Agree to disagree but hold the line where it is. Don't actually resolve anything.
I would imagine it would take the form of stop fighting and then a framework for discussions in a year or two on ultimate disposition with a European peacekeeper force to enforce the ceasefire until then.
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Seems way too reasonable considering the power brokers involved. Can't wait for all the "Ukraine Betrayed" seethe posts on Reddit if it happens though.
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I've never related to Biden more, tbh.
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Joe Rogan sub is the worst of both worlds- it's reddit pseudointellectualism with the cover of rightoid schizo conspiracy theories. Even Joe Rogan is more reasonable than the JRE sub
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thats the splinter rightoid sub, the main sub is libtarded and hates joe
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Sounds like /h/chudrama tbh
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The Biden administration legit did frick over Ukrainians with the drip drop of aid sufficient to keep them above water but not win, intentionally.
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That's because western support seemed to work well in the first 1yr then the frontline has barely moved meaningfully and western weapons production is still way too slow to keep up the black hole of supplies vs FPV drones.
So now it's mostly a sunk cost fallacy.
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YO I HEARD YOU TALKING ABOUT ASIAN PEOPLE NOT HAVING EMOTIONS AND THEY CAN"T FEEL PAIN I'D LIKE YOU TO KNOW THAT IS INCORRECT. ASIAN PEOPLE CAN INFACT FEEL PAIN.
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Nooooooooo!!!! It's (D)ifferent when my side does it!
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god I miss Biden. Funniest president ever. He put CLASS and DIGNITY back into the white house
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For all his faults, he at least put running the country above petty revenge.
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Wrong. He tried to run for president despite being borderline senile and then after he shat the bed in the debate it took a month for him to be persuaded to drop out after it was shown to him that Trump would win with 400+ electoral votes.
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Yeah except Trump did that too and won
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This is 100% revenge tour. Rightoids not feeling respected so they lash out like a caged dog. Then regular people take everything said at face value and try to rationalize it as having an ulterior motive like Russia or Musk enrichment
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A ton of normies are going to be truly shocked when the dam breaks and Ukraine loses the war of attrition. They really believed every last bit of Ukrainian propaganda, like early on when the Ukrainian minister of defense was giving out casualty numbers so implausible that oldstrags couldn't help but think of him as another Baghdad Bob. Any time they've seen reports showing that Russia was very slowly and inexorably grinding down the heckin' good guy Team Avengers, they've just covered their eyes and shouted "Russian misinformarion!"
A lot of people probably still believe in the Ghost of Keev and the antifascist nature of the Azov Battalion and the Russian gang r*pe dungeons.
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saw this earlier
whatever you do, do NOT look up how far ukraine has managed to push into kursk and compare it against how far it is from kursk to moscow
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Ah the "nothing will ever get accomplished" approach to foreign policy.
I know it well.
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Wow this is off the sneedometer! !besties c9me check it out
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I have a strong feeling that
@BWC is behind all this.
Snapshots:
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Until you remember Biden wasn't remotely as beloved on reddit as Trump is by you drooling idiots.Edit: can tell I touched a nerve with this one. If it talks like a duck...:
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I mean, objectively he was…he wasn't asking for dirt on Hunter Biden in exchange for javelins or forcing him to sign over minerals without security gaurantees… just giving a lot of supplies and money:
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This reminds me of when musk did a Nazi salute and the rats scattered to get photos of the opposing team with their arms up.:
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What an absolutely moronic, pea-brained, take. What a pathetically limited viewpoint. You obviously have no understanding of the global power structure and what it would mean to allow Putin even more power than that piece of shit already has. Our tax dollars pay nearly $1000,000,000,000 a year for a fricking military that ends up not doing shit anyway. Half of it goes to private defense contractors - Run FOR PROFIT meaning the people who own that company are "profiting" from our tax dollars with disgustingly over inflated contracts and other unnecessary bullshit. That is what you should be upset about you dumb frick. Not stopping a fricking fascist dictator who is right next to many of our traditional allies. You dumb piece of shit. And certainly not all but many liberal people are actually educated meaning they are far more intelligent than any dumb frick groups together a hundred million people far more informed and educated than you're 7th grade drop out butt and calls THEM the ones...:
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This is sneering and condescending?Volodymyr Zelensky: He [Putin] occupied various parts of Ukraine in 2014. During that time, it was President Obama, then President Trump, then President Biden, and now it's President Trump and he will stop him [Putin]. But during 2014, nobody stopped him. He just occupied and took. He killed people. From 2014 till 2022, the situation was the same—people have been dying on the contact line and nobody stopped him. We had a lot of conversations with him, including a bilateral conversation. As a new president in 2019, I signed with him a cease-fire deal alongside Macron and Merkel. All of them told me that he will never go. We also signed a gas contract with him. But after all of that, he broke the cease-fire. He killed our people, and he didn't exchange prisoners. We signed the exchange of prisoners, but he didn't do it. What kind of diplomacy, J.D., are you speaking about? What do you mean?It's not that wild if you've listened to anything JD Vance ha...:
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First off, I'm not saying Ukraine should stop trying to get their land back. However, that does not mean the USA has to become directly involved to help them do so.Secondly, "peace is nothing without justice" sounds nice and would be the case in an ideal world but in reality there is rarely ever justice where war is concerned. Your assumption that Russia wouldn't resort to nukes is a big gamble for anyone to make. If the USA and NATO decided to become directly involved that would mean they are fighting right on Russia's border. During the Cuban Missile Crisis the world narrowly avoided a nuclear disaster and that was over Russia trying to station nuclear weapons in Cuba. If the USA was actively waging war on Russia right on their own border the world would be one simple decision away from catastrophe.:
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