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[πŸ€“πŸ€“πŸ€“πŸ€“πŸ”˜] Zelenskyy caves. He says he is ready to work under Trump and sign the deal.

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Until he tries to get the US to fight their war again (-8)

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Trump could cure cancer and create world peace…Reddit libs won't care. (6)

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"Trump's push for peace may have long lasting destabilizing effects in Europe". (33)

That was actually pretty creative. I wonder what BS they will come up with to enrage everyone that he's trying to take over the world (9)

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Right now, millions of Libs are devastated that WW3 isn't going to happen. They are heartbroken that Raytheon won't have a banner year. Pounding their fists in frustration that Lockheed Martin, Boeing, General Dynamics, and Northrop Grumman might not post record profits.WON'T SOMEBODY THINK OF THE WAR-MACHINE???😭 (91)

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Frick that piece of shit. Don't come over here and act like some big shit then run over to Europe for a photo op like they are doing something for you and then you read it to find out they will help you in 2027. Then run back to the US saying you're sorry. Go to heck. (1)

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They'll still say Trump didn't end the war fast enough (as if Biden was doing anything to end it) because Trump claimed he would get peace on day 1. They'll completely ignore/forget/pretend-away the fact that Zelenskyy was the reason peace couldn't happen on day 1. (4)

Oh for sure. Did you see the deepfake on here of their conversation? They've got him saying shit like "no the war must continue so I can steal more money" shit is hilarious (1)

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I love that everyone remains so convinced that daddy has a plan and isn't just making up shit as he goes.

Z was prepared to sign the terrible OG agreement if it became multilateral and included European peacekeeping forces as well as token US involvement (my guess would be much the same as before last week, intelligence and logistical support). Z was prepared to sign a watered down agreement without security guarantees but also that didn't make specific resource commitments on Ukraine.

It is clear the watered down one is the one he thought he was coming to sign but wasn't the one he was presented with. I'm guessing b-word baby talked daddy in to fricking with Ukraine because he has a hate boner (still really curious about that, it's been going on forever without any explanation).

It's clear EU have told him to go with the US agreement to try and smooth things out and they will do an independent agreement that gets European boots on the ground before the stockpiles get depleted this summer.

Russia have made absolutely no suggestions they are willing to entertain an end to the war without satisfying their war goals. I look forward to the master of 4d chess resolving that small issue.

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Yes it's not that complicated. Zeleknsky refused to let daddy save face in front of the press so they had to make up a pressure campaign to pretend it was a negotiation tactic

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Z said he was still willing to sign the deal even after ddr and vance chimped out so idk why Joe Rogaine fanboys are acting like this is some epic pwn. Then again I can't imagine the negative IQ points it takes to actively seek out and listen to oatmeal brained rogan in the first place.

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I heard he discovered an ancient alien civilization under the oceans. How can you not listen to that?

I haven't, but it seems compelling.

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😴😴😴

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Who is b-word baby?

Vance? Ngl there's something up with him.

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You're an r-slur if you think EU boots will be on the ground, not even Poland is happy with the idea lol

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Can someone tell me what that "deal" actually entails?

So America gets ressources....For free? Or do they pay for them?

Does Ukraine get weapons?

I literaly have no idea.

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Multiple sources have told the BBC's US partner CBS News that the terms of the deal have not yet been finalised and could change from a previous version, which was published by Ukrainian media before Zelensky's meeting with Trump and Vance.

That version of the deal envisages that an "investment fund" will be set up for Ukraine's reconstruction, which Ukrainian Prime Minister Denys Shmyhal said would be managed by Kyiv and Washington on "equal terms".

According to the text, Ukraine will contribute 50% of future proceeds from state-owned mineral resources, oil and gas to the fund, and the fund will then invest "to promote the safety, security and prosperity of Ukraine".

Meanwhile, the agreement says the US government will, subject to US law, "maintain a long-term financial commitment to the development of a stable and economically prosperous Ukraine".

The US will own the maximum amount of the fund allowed under US law, the agreement says.

In the days before the deal was supposed to be signed, disagreement over its terms formed part of a deepening rift between Trump and Zelensky.

The Ukrainian president rejected an initial request from the US for $500bn (Β£395bn) in mineral wealth, but this demand was dropped from the version published online.

"The US administration started with a deal that challenged Ukraine's sovereignty, then pushed an exploitative one that would bankrupt the country," Tymofiy Mylovanov, a former minister and head of Kyiv school of economics, told the BBC.

"Now, they've shifted to a reasonable deal with co-ownership and no direct claims on past aid. That could actually benefit Ukraine."

Trump has repeatedly claimed the US has given Ukraine between $300bn (Β£237bn) and $350bn (Β£276bn) in aid, and that he wanted to "get that money back" through a deal.

Zelensky has been pushing for a deal to include a firm security guarantee from the US.

No such guarantee has yet been made, although the published text says the US supports "Ukraine's efforts to obtain security guarantees to build lasting peace".

Trump has suggested the presence of US contractors in Ukraine would act as a security guarantee, but responsibility for Ukraine's security would now fall to Europe.

The prospect of a minerals deal was first proposed by Zelensky last year as a way to offer the US a tangible reason to continue supporting Ukraine.

Trump initially said Ukraine would get "the right to fight on" in return for access to its minerals, but in the days after the spat in Washington he paused all US military aid to Ukraine.

So the US gives them money in a fund, then long term Ukraine pays it back with half of profits from mineral/oil/gas?

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It's a foreign investment fund with 50% ROI (profits/maybe taxes) going to the US and the majority trade (ie minerals) going to US

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If they apparently get access to minerals, Wouldn't America need to send security forces to "protect their investments"? It seems like a perfect excuse to put what is effectively a military base on top of some useless mine, especially since I have heard people suggest that the value of Ukraine's rare earth minerals is grossly exaggerated. Unfortunately, I don't think any American government official would ever be intelligent enough to even consider a gambit with that many layers of pretext.

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I mean that's what I understood, we're essentially occupying the area with "economic interests" as a smoke screen for deploying US assets to help prevent any shenanigans from the Russians under the guise of "mining".

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He said that weapons shipments would continue if there's a deal. No troops on the ground aka the only thing Zelensky considers to be a "security guarantee."

What everyone is missing is that if America has a $500b interest in Ukraine's fancy rocks, Daddy is not going to let Pootin disrupt that. :marseyshrug:

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US was never going to put troops on the ground in Ukraine, that is worse than Euro ones on the power scale so I doubt Russia wants that

Ukraine wants the usual guaruntees like Tomahawk strikes and maybe air denial, stuff beyond sanctions. But they will probably be happy with less.

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Trump's whole foreign policy is "I'm gonna bomb people so hard and so fast that the domestic regional forces can swoop in easily and stabilize the area so American troops can fricking leave"

Its why Trump's first military bombing this time around was bombing a bunch of ISIS Somalis that numbered maybe 500 dudes with 18 F18s. Thats more overkill than the MOAB stunt he pulled the last time.

EIGHTEEN. You really only need 1 F18 to bomb a guy, but they decided "Nah, show of force. 18 fricking fighters"

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Look, we paid for those 18 and we barely get to use them.

I'm happy to pay a little extra tax jf it means I get to see cool bombs get dropped by awesome jets

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I just hope we over-react to air zone incursions by the Chinks and Russians with a full squad of Raptors for the lulz. :pray:

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no slur for russians?

Russian programming is complete. Individual has lost all autonomy.

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F/A-18 squadrons need redundancy because they often crash or get shot down by their own carrier anti-air

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"For me to weigh in with my opinion I need the details of this agreement spelled out and then and only then can I weigh in" here's an idea, stay uninformed lmao no one wants to hear your fricking dumb opinion :marseyletsgo:

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The Javelin sentence is the most hand-jammed statement in the whole thing. The rest of the text has a general flow, but this was positively inserted as a specific afterthought.

"Get rid of the part where Biden gave you all that money. Don't mention him. Only mention me as the most important. Make sure you thank me specifically for the Javelins and how they turned the tide."

Also, Trump approved those his first year in office in his first term -- 2017. The more recent period of the invasion started in 2022.

Trump claims that Russia would never have invaded if he was in office and this is all Ukraine's fault.

If Russia never would have invaded Ukrain if !the_donald was in office, then why was he sending Ukraine javelins in 2017?

And if Ukraine is to blame for getting invaded, why did Trump send them weapons to kill Russians at all?

!nonchuds

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dumbass is forgetting about crimea

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that's one of the worst things about the whole conflict -- Russia has been in Ukraine for 11 years but people seem to think there is a magical time boundary where the more recent stuff is its own war

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Zelensky already refused to sign that stupid deal three times and promised to sign it at least four. At this point I'll believe it when I see it :marseyshrug: There are rumours on twitter that he already signed the mining rights to UK, which is why he refuses to sign it now with America, there's nothing left to give to Trump :marseyhmm:

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Rumors on twitter

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Life is funnier if you believe every conspiracy theory you come across :marseyagree:

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UK is becoming a caliphate so it doesn't matter what they sign.

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As if the US would ever allow that. If we're moving away from oil and going all in on this new EV, battery, renewable future (seems like we are) we require more minerals

Trans lives matter

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We should focus on vespene gas instead

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Ive been saying that for years

Trans lives matter

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Maybe :marseybiden: accidentally allowed it?

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Rightoids are celebrating over nothing, tbh. He still hasn't caved. Daddy said he needs to be ready to sign a ceasefire. He pretty noticably didn't say that he was willing to do that in that statement. Daddy needs to break this buck a little more.

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They haven't even put together an agreement yet so why would he commit to it. He already went to Washington to work out the terms

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They had an agreement in place for him to sign in Ukraine. The entitled little shit decided to blindside everyone and try to renegotiate it in Washington in front of the press.

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Does this make western europeans having to fight russia less or more likely?

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>ddr does it again

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[–]El_Gran_Che 504 points 2 hours ago

Like when Einstein fled the Nazis and in modern times flee fascists again.

[–]2squishy 153 points 2 hours ago

Fricking this, holy shit

[–]smileysmiley123 46 points 58 minutes ago

Once the Brain Drain process starts for a country it's almost impossible to stop without immediate action and long-term implementation of real progressive plans.

We are witnessing the downfall of an empire in real-time.

:marseydisney: :soysnoo4: :soysnoo2: :soysnoo3: :marseyspiderman: :marseydisintegrate:

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How stupid are chuds? He literally just said what hes been saying for the past month just in tweet form

Said the same in the previous thread about this. Yeah he is ready to sign the deal. He was fricking ready to do it when he went to white house

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@Freak-Off stand with Ukraine

:#marseywheeze:

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Until he tries to get the US to fight their war again:

Trump could cure cancer and create world peace…Reddit libs won't care.:

That was actually pretty creative. I wonder what BS they will come up with to enrage everyone that he's trying to take over the world:

Right now, millions of Libs are devastated that WW3 isn't going to happen. They are heartbroken that Raytheon won't have a banner year. Pounding their fists in frustration that Lockheed Martin, Boeing, General Dynamics, and Northrop Grumman might not post record profits.WON'T SOMEBODY THINK OF THE WAR-MACHINE???😭:

Frick that piece of shit. Don't come over here and act like some big shit then run over to Europe for a photo op like they are doing something for you and then you read it to find out they will help you in 2027. Then run back to the US saying you're sorry. Go to heck.:

Oh for sure. Did you see the deepfake on here of their conversation? They've got him saying shit like "no the war must continue so I can steal more money" shit is hilarious:

/u/H3nchman_24:

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