Could someone please saw down this rifle barrel for me?
The P320. It ends today. pic.twitter.com/bZZMXGKK1v
— SIG SAUER (@sigsauerinc) March 7, 2025
SIG Sauer is a Swiss weapons manufacturer with an American branch that just recently won the contract to build the next rifle for the US military. The American branch is also infamous for developing the P320, a semi-automatic pistol with features like no other - it fires when it shouldn't.
For starters, the P320 already had an early design issue, in that it could fire if dropped, which no modern pistol should do.
SIG Sauer did announce an upgrade for all P320s several years back to fix this drop issue, but in doing so, may have somehow introduced a new issue where it can accidentally discharge.
https://www.thetrace.org/2023/04/sig-sauer-p320-upgrade-safety/ (This is from an anti-gun source, but does include a few gifs of incidents where the gun went off along with an animation of the design).
Are a good chunk of these probably people negligently discharging or something getting stuck in the holster? Probably, but there are a few suspect incidents that make it seem otherwise.
In any case, for no random reason, SIG Sauer releases that statement yesterday.
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In other news, Boeing released a statement saying that their planes are totally safe and fine and absolutely nothing is wrong with their manufacturing and quality assurance processes.
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The SIG Sauer and P320 subreddits rush to SIG's defense.
https://old.reddit.com/r/SigSauer/comments/1j5ykn3/looks_like_sig_had_enough/
I keep waiting for a P320 that has had an "uncommanded discharge" to be analyzed to demonstrate what went wrong to cause it to go off.
Conspicuously, it's NEVER EVER been done. Like, it would be the simplest, most obvious and objective way to settle the issue once and for all. There should be completely irrefutable material evidence in every single one of these instances. A broken striker tab... a misshapen sear (well, two sears, since it has a 2nd sear in case of failure of the first one)... a firing pin block that sticks in the open position... But completely bizarrely - no such evidence has ever been put forward.
The total lack of evidence of a faulty firing mechanism is almost as conspicuous as it being basically only cops that have "uncommanded discharges".
Ever notice how nearly every single incident involving the P320 was by a cop? π€
https://old.reddit.com/r/P320/comments/1j64je3/looks_like_sig_had_enough/
For all the ones that have fired on their own is there any commonality between them?
I have tested mine and nothing, seen a bunch of other people testing theirs with no results, and it has me curious as to what the point of failure is?
Yeah. User error
Good for Sig
CCW and firearms are little more confrontational.
https://old.reddit.com/r/CCW/comments/1j67mi1/sig_sauer_statement_on_the_p320/
They really went in and hit every buzzword lol. Anti-gun groups, mainstream media, clickbait farmers, grifters, all chose to go after not just one company but one firearm model. Agenda driven, rhetoric, "highjack the truth". Give me a fricking break. This reads like an AI press release.
Sig sounds kinda sauer about it all.
https://old.reddit.com/r/Firearms/comments/1j61m1l/well_this_interesting/
The sig subreddit is literally blaming everything but the gun from the holster to weather conditions it's concerning how much they fanboy.
It's also hard to claim it's a flawless gun if you rolled out a voluntary recall program lmao.
The hair around my butthole has a greater level of intelligence than that sub.
Anyways, there's no issue. Make sure to buy their $2.5k rifle with an "in spec" gap between the upper and lower receiver!
https://old.reddit.com/r/NFA/comments/1ifbath/the_gap_between_your_mcx_or_mcx_lt_is_in_fact/
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Im not a gun guy, so maybe this seems incredibly naive, but wasnt literally all this shit figured out like 120 years ago???
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yes and no, its complicated by gun manufacturers trying to create new features that domt always work as intended, and Also mass manufacturing will always have shortfalls and sometimes there can be a simple defect that makes an extra nub or something on 1 in 1000 parts that leads to the defect, and Even tho its 1 in 1000 when Sig makes as many guns as they do thats hundereds of guns made with the defect
!slots100 and thats the tea, sis
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That literally happened to the M1 Garand, during the initial batch of production they would missfeed literally every time a round was loaded from one side of the clip, Turns out one of the toolpaths wasnt set up properly and left a nub somewhere it shouldnt have been
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120 years ago semiauto handguns had like just been invented and barely had literally any drop safeties, and Most parts were sorta eyeballed and developed through testing rather than modern analysis, and Manufacturing was also shit in 1920
I just think it's funny that This was completely normal back then
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revolvers are betterr anyway, and shoot through the jacket, never jam, cool like western
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Ok boomer
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also like Virtually literally all firearms are capable of some sort of mechanical failure leading to unintentional discharge
Short of a single shot thats like only loaded immediately before firing, literally all guns have some level of potential to misfire
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Modern handguns dont do this, and Its like just a p320 issue and its EVERYTHING
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Modern handguns dont do what the 320 does, but even ar15s can have hammer follow and such
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also like Modern handguns arent striker fired???
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omg! They even made safeties and kept playing with the trigger designs for muskets, so single shot isnt even r-slur or defect proof
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