Could someone please saw down this rifle barrel for me?
The P320. It ends today. pic.twitter.com/bZZMXGKK1v
— SIG SAUER (@sigsauerinc) March 7, 2025
SIG Sauer is a Swiss weapons manufacturer with an American branch that just recently won the contract to build the next rifle for the US military. The American branch is also infamous for developing the P320, a semi-automatic pistol with features like no other - it fires when it shouldn't.
For starters, the P320 already had an early design issue, in that it could fire if dropped, which no modern pistol should do.
SIG Sauer did announce an upgrade for all P320s several years back to fix this drop issue, but in doing so, may have somehow introduced a new issue where it can accidentally discharge.
https://www.thetrace.org/2023/04/sig-sauer-p320-upgrade-safety/ (This is from an anti-gun source, but does include a few gifs of incidents where the gun went off along with an animation of the design).
Are a good chunk of these probably people negligently discharging or something getting stuck in the holster? Probably, but there are a few suspect incidents that make it seem otherwise.
In any case, for no random reason, SIG Sauer releases that statement yesterday.
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The SIG Sauer and P320 subreddits rush to SIG's defense.
https://old.reddit.com/r/SigSauer/comments/1j5ykn3/looks_like_sig_had_enough/
I keep waiting for a P320 that has had an "uncommanded discharge" to be analyzed to demonstrate what went wrong to cause it to go off.
Conspicuously, it's NEVER EVER been done. Like, it would be the simplest, most obvious and objective way to settle the issue once and for all. There should be completely irrefutable material evidence in every single one of these instances. A broken striker tab... a misshapen sear (well, two sears, since it has a 2nd sear in case of failure of the first one)... a firing pin block that sticks in the open position... But completely bizarrely - no such evidence has ever been put forward.
The total lack of evidence of a faulty firing mechanism is almost as conspicuous as it being basically only cops that have "uncommanded discharges".
Ever notice how nearly every single incident involving the P320 was by a cop? π€
https://old.reddit.com/r/P320/comments/1j64je3/looks_like_sig_had_enough/
For all the ones that have fired on their own is there any commonality between them?
I have tested mine and nothing, seen a bunch of other people testing theirs with no results, and it has me curious as to what the point of failure is?
Yeah. User error
Good for Sig
CCW and firearms are little more confrontational.
https://old.reddit.com/r/CCW/comments/1j67mi1/sig_sauer_statement_on_the_p320/
They really went in and hit every buzzword lol. Anti-gun groups, mainstream media, clickbait farmers, grifters, all chose to go after not just one company but one firearm model. Agenda driven, rhetoric, "highjack the truth". Give me a fricking break. This reads like an AI press release.
Sig sounds kinda sauer about it all.
https://old.reddit.com/r/Firearms/comments/1j61m1l/well_this_interesting/
The sig subreddit is literally blaming everything but the gun from the holster to weather conditions it's concerning how much they fanboy.
It's also hard to claim it's a flawless gun if you rolled out a voluntary recall program lmao.
The hair around my butthole has a greater level of intelligence than that sub.
Anyways, there's no issue. Make sure to buy their $2.5k rifle with an "in spec" gap between the upper and lower receiver!
https://old.reddit.com/r/NFA/comments/1ifbath/the_gap_between_your_mcx_or_mcx_lt_is_in_fact/
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Sig fixed the drop issue like 8 years ago, and Are they too stupid to like just add an additional letter to the model number and move on???
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Remember when GM had ignition cylinder defects, but didn't bother to stamp an updated part number on the corrected cylinders, nor apparently did they track VINs under the recall, so dealers had no idea if you still had a defective ignition cylinder?
It really only affected poors and olds though. If you're entering your 30s and still driving a Pontiac with fewer than 8 cylinders, you made terrible life choices.
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yes, and sigs whole thing is *sips tea*
literally, if they changed the model number it would be admitting there was an issue, and they did it with the p365 too (though the p365 is genuinely quite a good gun, whereas the 320 is mid even when it works fine)
bottom line though cops were like just shooting themselves and accusing the gun, and they did they same thing with the glock in the 80s and 90s because cops couldnt keep their fingers off the trigger
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I just think it's funny that Someone has tested it, and With a P320 in a retention holster that locks onto the slide, like most Safarilands, a small shock to the grip module can cause the gun to fire
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yeah iirc they made the trigger shoe way too heavy so it could like just move under its own weight, firing while uncommanded but still technically pulling the trigger, and they did change that but not retroactively, so if i were ever going to buy a used non manual safety 320 (and i dont know why anyone would) id immediately replace the trigger with a new one
^ the above is why so many people distrust sig now, and had they issued a mandatory/free upgrade for literally all 320s it would have been a darn thats stupid but they made it right thing that like only temporarily tarnished their reputation, and by quietly allowing owners to upgrade their guns they didnt admit literally anything and now people are seriously questioning their trustworthiness, and i still stand by dont buy literally any new designs until theres a second generation and youre fine but god darn could they have avoided this, and and the tweet makes them look gay, and biggest sin tbh
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