Unable to load image

EFFORTPOST :marseyflagsouthafrica: Longpost about how r/SouthAfrica espouses some turbo nuclear cope regarding Apartheid-Apologists and fails to combat racist misinformation, by espousing just as much misinformation as the Apartheid-Apologists they so despise.

https://old.reddit.com/r/southafrica/comments/1jgi64j/to_commemorate_sharpeville_massacre_let_me_put/

								

								

:marseywave2: Greetings Boys and Girl

You guys are aware by this time that I'm the resident Boer/Afrikaner/Safrican/Genocide-denier of the place, because for 2 years I literally could not shut up about it and made like 100+ Longposts about it.

I have genuinely endeavored to the utmost of my sincerest capacity to be truthful, unbiases and sincere - because as an Afrikaner I was the direct r*pespawn descendant of those responsible for the infamy of Apartheid in South Africa, and in large part the dysfunction of the country in the modern era.

I am fully aware of the bias and wingcuckery of both champions and detractors of modern south african rule have, as I have had literal ground zero seating at the terminal wingcuckery for people regarding the excusing of black safrican peeps misrule of the functioning country they inherited, whilst opponents also denying the not-inconsequential influence whites had upon the ill-preparation Apartheid had for black peeps to be capable of effectively governing on a national scale.

And as a Safrican :marseypop2: white, I am fully aware the degree that local and international racism has upon the sincerity of criticism of modern black governance, with most unironic actual neonazis stating that black peeps are innately biologically incapable of ruling, while stormfronters want RSA to fail as proof of their ideology.

Thus I had (attempted) to go to great lengths to try and describe what I believe has been the cultural factors that has led to modern systemic black misrule, as well as going on enormous tangents regarding the historical contexts of the timelines which led to the modern state of affairs :marseylongpost: :marseylongpost: :marseylongpost: :marseywords: :marseywords: :marseywords:


I have no idea how you guys see me, as just another hateful racist wingcuck, trying to deny the participation of my ancestors' part in Apartheid, because my greatest fear had been that I had been just another run of the mill Apartheid-Apologist, one of the many infinite boomers who excused the totalitarian nature of the Nation State at the time, or ignored its oppressive nature because they weren't the ones with a boot upon their necks. :marseybeanannoyed: :marseybeanannoyed: :marseybeanannoyed: :marseybeanannoyed:

YET, at the same time as a non-woke-shitlib-leftoid wingcuck, the amount of one-sided, surface-level, uninformed views I've encountered about Safrica and its tumultuous past of racial inequality, has made me realize from a young age that throughout all of history that fricking even when there had been somewhat relatively open-and-shut, black-and-white (punny) good VS evil events, that those championing righteous causes.....are just as fricking r-slurred as the evil peeps they oppose :soyjakhipster: :soyjakhipster: :soyjakhipster: :soyjakhipster:

Like holy shit, if you liberal guys ever wondered why peeps didn't just realize why slavery :marseycracka: :marseymcwagie: was a bad thing :soyjakhipster:, and it took 200 years of social reform, societal upheaval and conflict, it's probably because the abolitionist movement had r-slurs like modern shitlibs :soyjakhipster: :soyjakhipster: :soyjakhipster: at the helm :marseytrollcrazy:

What I mean by this, is that it appears that safrican anti-racists, liberals appear to completely incapable of fighting misinformation without other equivalent misinformation. Like it's the highest incarnation of Bigotry of Low Expectations when local and international liberals try to excuse modern ANC black misrule,

and the post I wanna share I think embodies how liberal peeps can lie or be misinformed or just plane r-slurred, when discussing something ostensibly as morally black-and-white (punny) as Apartheid-apologism.

https://old.reddit.com/r/southafrica/comments/1jgi64j/to_commemorate_sharpeville_massacre_let_me_put/


SHARPEVILLE MASSACRE CONTEXT:

Basically, this weekend Safricans enjoyed a long weekend, when the public holiday of Human Rights Day, landed on 21 March 2025. Way back in 1994, during the Nelson Madiba Administration, it was declared that 21 March 2025 would become a future Safrican holiday, as a direct commemoration of the Sharpeville massacre, which had occurred during 21 March 1960. The Human Rights Day was deemed to be a general holiday for all of the Anti-Apartheid struggles and counter movements, though the date 21 March date was specifically chosen to coincide with the Sharpeville Massacre.

As a TLDR: the Sharpeville Massacre was the 1st major insurrection against the the rule of the Union of South Africa regime (the Apartheid Government), which involved violence, and actual deaths. The event occurred as mass protest when the Prime Minister Hendrik Verwoerd enacted draconian pass-laws in 1959-1960: meaning black peeps were to be forced to have passports to move between provinces/municipalities/work-areas, and especially at night after curfew. This came as a direct reaction against increased black communist and proto-ANC factions having started to organize black populations against their white overlords, and the pass-laws were to be an instrument to quell this movements and restrict black people's capacity to organize.

The pass-laws were so draconian and unprecedented, that it in reality backfired, and was probably responsible for the greatest recruitment of communist and ANC members than ever before; as most black peeps before 1960 were in reality relatively docile and just took the unequal treatment of the white-government at face value as a norm. Before 1959/1960 resistance against the Union government was seen as an Upper class black thing amongst the general and uneducated masses of Safrica, as the ANC for example began as an organization when black students were blanket banned from all of the prominent and prestigious main universities in the early 1950s by Hendrik Verwoerd (the architect of Apartheid) and the Union government.

The pass-laws affected pretty much fricking everyone non-white, and by 1960 they incrementally began to include even black women, and seemingly overnight cucked the lives and comfort of the black masses which before 1960 had given proportionally little resistance against the slowly-boiling racial segregation laws which had accumulated since 1948, 12 years ago, when the Nasionale Partei came to dominate South Africa. After the pass-laws came into being, it was like ANC membership exploded, and insurrections, riots and protests occurred daily all over the country.

With one of the largest fatefully occurring in 21 March 1960 in the small Township of Sharpeville, when over 5000 peeps deliberately tried to jippo a Police-checkpoint for day-passes between a black residence suburb and the town's CBD. The crowd of 5000 peeps were organized by the Pan-Africanist Congress, another proto-ANC group to leave their day-passes at home and force their way through the Police Checkpoint by force as protest against the unfair law.

The Police-checkpoint officers were young afrikaans men conscripted, and unused to even process/check more than a dozen peeps at a time, and shit brix and called in the municipal riot squads......whom were also young untrained conscripted men :marseycringe: :marseycringe: :marseycringe: The inevitable happened when men with firearms clashed with a crowd of indignant and angry peeps, and when the dust settled 69 peeps had been filled dead with bullets, and another 200 wounded.

The event had been lionized by black peeps and liberals since, with a whole lot of mythology having taken over since. Anyway that's not relevant.


TDS:

As you guys have notice past 3 months, the usual shitlibbery of Reddit has been turbo hypercharged into EVEN MORE EXTREME wingcuckery than ever before since Trump's victory in Burgerland, with the entirety of the site having been turned into /r/Democrats and random hysteria taking place all over /r/all whenever Trump so much as farts. Nazi-hysteria is commonplace and the abrasive nature of Trump means than places like /r/worldnews, /r/europe and pretty much every large sub is just one constant deluge of hysteria every fricking day.

I didn't think it was possible to reach even greater levels of shitlib hysteria, wingcuckery and insanity, but week after week, the bar sinks.

Now since Musk has wormed his way into such influence with the Trump Administration, he has also had his image make Reddit foam at the mouth whenever he so much as farts in the wind :marseychainsmoker: :marseychainsmoker: :marseychainsmoker: :marseychainsmoker: :marseychainsmoker:

And due to his South African origins, and the recent diplomatic spats between Trump & Musk & SA diplomats, /r/southafrica, a usually small and wayward sub, has also experienced rapid transformation past 3 months, into increasingly greater levels of shitlibery and hysteria. /r/SouthAfrica has always been so for past 5 years, but like EVEN MORE SO :marseyflushzoom:


SA TDS:

Thus past weekend, many terminal Safrica redditors have spammed the sub with Sharpeville posts and posts against Apartheid-Apologists (which is our version of anti-nazi posting) and how to "PROVE" the racist boomer afrikaners and Musk wrong about shit.

The issue is that they are fighting misinformation with equivalent wingcuckery and misinformation. And i feel this criclejerk post is the perfect summary of such distilled thoughts

https://old.reddit.com/r/southafrica/comments/1jgi64j/to_commemorate_sharpeville_massacre_let_me_put/


(1) :marseyflagsouthafrica: SA CRIME & MURDER RATES: :marseyscaredpolice:

Alot of shitlibs, black people, ANC wingcucks, and online redditors always purport to shut down criticisms of modern SA dysfunction by showcasing the 30 year gap of crime stats, with the worst and most recent high having occurred during 1994, and having declined since in terms of murder rates.

It's not a bad statistic for gauging the general wellbeing of a country, as most Nation States and provinces, can have their general crime index tied to it. For the vast majority of countries, murder rates per 100 000 peeps, is a general surface barometer for the rest of the crimes taking place. In other words, the higher/lower murder rates, so to does proportionally higher/lower crime rates follow for lesser crimes.

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s43576-023-00086-1

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1742817021MV4Qqngkcj_vOg.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1742817022aP6RiWtKES7IkQ.webp

But this is not universal. :marseybeanannoyed:

South Africa is an extreme outlier in the global community, in that our Murder Rates have decreased, BUT VIRTUALLY EVERY OTHER FRICKIGN METRIC HAS INCREASED :marseytrollcrazy: :marseytrollcrazy: :marseytrollcrazy:


https://theconversation.com/violent-crime-in-south-africa-happens-mostly-in-a-few-hotspots-police-resources-should-focus-there-criminologist-248233

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1742817022499S5mlCAGyKwg.webp

It is true additionally for example that most violent murder-related crime occurs in "criminal hotspots" or basically gang related crime. If you're a tourist, your chances of being murdered or randomly assaulted is not that much bigger than places like Burgerland/Europe, instead your chances of being robbed however is absurdly high.

Thus it is very true murder is generally down from that of the past, this is definitively true, and any boomer Apartheid-Apologist cannot sneed their way past this reality.

However,

this statistic itself is robbed (punny) of context. During 1990-1993, South Africa was at its greatest and most unstable politically. Virtually no one was under any illusion that Apartheid was going to stay, yet nobody knew how or precisely when the government would fall. The global community had turned on SA, sanctions had crippled the nations over the course of 15 years. Many people, of all the races, was expecting a massive civil war to break out.

Afrikaans people expected that whites would turn on one another, like the split between the two Koreas or Vietnams, or that a modern day Yank Civil War was about to occur, as emergent re-ignited ultra-nationalists white groups like the AWB (Afrikaner-Weerstand-Beweging) would come into clash with the National Party, for not being racist enough, and that it was about to acquiesce to the ANC's demands for total unconditional democracy, after international pressure.

And then......nothing happened. The Mandela was freed, elections were held, the country peacefully transitioned into a liberal Democracy :marseyhmmm: :marseyhmm: After all that fearmongering for 4 years, it appeared that Afrikeners and Bong whites didn't have the stomach for civil war after all.

However, once you understand WHY peeps were fearing widespread national Sectarian violence you'd understand, the Mayos weren't just being histronic.

Do you guys know WHY the murder rates were so incredibly high in 1993? Because massive Sectarian violence were occurring all over South Africa..... but amongst the black communities all over the Townships of South Africa. By 1993 ANC was the dominant and pre-eminent resistance group in the country, but they were not the only one. Many anti-communist pro-democracy groups existed all over the country, but could never gain traction, additionally the ANC was directly funded by Cuba and the Soviet Union, and thus were able to smuggle in armaments, bombs, resources and funds in order to organize. Additionally the ANC was not a unified faction, with many splinter groups - thus whilst many sub-factions under people like Nelson Madiba espoused peace and co-prosperity, other factions were much more violent and vengeful.

The dominant ANC also feared that if they were going the route to Democracy that the black population would be heavily splintered, and that all of these tiny black-democracy parties would spoil the vote to dethrone the National Party. Nelson Mandela also had an intense fear of this; that his massive peaceful co-existence campaign would backfire, and that the white-minority would retain a majority government or something whilst the black vote had been split by something like 100 tiny shit-tier parties.

We know now in hindsight this fear was unfounded, as the ANC would dominate with a crushing 70% in 1994, but at the time nobody could predict the future. Thus many ANC guerillas would fricking brutalize opposing black political organizations, and literally murder political opponents opponents in opposing municipal regions.

Additionally, by 1993, the country had already began liberalizing, and from 1990 onwards many many censorship laws had already been repealed. But most significantly of all, by 1993, all of the pass-laws were left uninforced, and virtually had no white-police presence as they had since 1960, as pretty much every white could sense the end of the regime in the air, and that there was virtually no point in continuing to enforce law and segregation, or check-points.

THIS meant that many Townships of black segregated peeps virtually had zero police oversight, and thus were left to themselves. Violent ANC factions would thus take this opportunity to completely purge their opposition, and many black peeps also enacted their revenge against white-collaborators, or even just people who were THOUGHT to be white-collaborators - i.e. black peeps whom would give tips to the white police authorities that bombs were being planted at the local school or police station or whatever.


And if you guys think I'm speaking out of my butt about this, I had made a Longpost about Winnie Mandela, the Ex-wife of Nelson Mandela, whom was possibly the most controversial Black woman in all of the country, especially Post-Apartheid.

https://rdrama.net/post/258513/marseyflagsouthafrica-winnie-mandela-the-controversial-exwife

Basically when the dust settled, peeps found that the absolute VAST MAJORITY of people for example Necklaced :marseynecklace: :marseynecklace: :marseynecklace: during the Apartheid years were black peeps by other black peeps, which were often done during Sectarian political violence between groups, like the ANC vs Anti-Communist groups, or black peeps getting their revenge against white-collaborators.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1742817022hxJRVzHc_EBVSA.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17428170227YCBPonMjvnTrg.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1742817022JC12Aump_mxEtQ.webp

Winnie not only openly defended this massive MASSIVELY controversial practice within the various black communities of South Africans, but she was also most certainly regarded as guilty for having orchestrated a lynching of a boy called Stompie Seipei in 1988, during the closing hours of Apartheid.

Like half the reason of WHY the fricking Truth and Reconciliation Commission even was a thing in Safrica, was not just to quell bad feeling between SA whites and black peeps, during the transition to Democracy, but ALSO to quell bad blood between various black peeps which had occurred during the large swathes of Sectarian violence between people of different political organizations. Mandela and the more peaceloving ANC factions wanted to desperately get over these episodes, as at that point in time, the ANC was enjoying international approval.

Meanwhile his fricking wife was literally espousing fire and blood comments, about not only necklacing whites, but also against the black communities which the more violent uncontrolled splinter factions had unleased to terrorize the black communities into submission from the 1980s, up until 1993! Which is why many believe he divorced her, to distance himself from her violent rhetoric.


Many black peeps literally don't know about these Sectarian violence from periods of 1988-1993, because it's literally not taught in our schools, and because many Black boomers would either forget about it, or sweep it under the rugs.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17428170220nQc3I_ytGw2eg.webp

https://scielo.org.za/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S0259-01902010000100006

The few black liberals discussing the Sectarian violence between political factions, are appalled by Necklacing as a manefistation of black inter-groups cruelty, all the while the boot of the white government had been on their throats.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1742817022gh2L0amCyZjKzA.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17428170220FOkS-qUn2wBCg.webp


The incredible long boring point I'm trying to make is that it's absurd to compare the murder-rates of 2024 to 1993, or even the 5 years preceding it, as South Africa was literally in the midst of its greatest political and societal upheaval and instability ever.

The majority of these murders were not fricking regular murders occurring in a Nation State during peacetime, but fricking political Sectarian violence predicated by the intense belief that the possible future election would be influenced, based upon the which political faction had the majority support in all of the various municipalities and communities.

Even whites, whom were behind in murder rates, were doing them at an increased rate due to Sectarian conflict. Many white-on-white murders were done by extremism. White supremacists against liberals or against Natioanl Party members, that were deemed to be selling out the country.


(2) :marseyflagsouthafrica: THE ECONOMY IS BETTER UNDER ANC, NO REALLY YOU :soyjak: :blacksoyjak: GUYS:

https://old.reddit.com/r/southafrica/comments/1jgi64j/to_commemorate_sharpeville_massacre_let_me_put/

The point our poster tries to make is irrelevant. That economies grow in proportion to population does not prove for or against his proposition, that the rule of the National Party was not some mythical golden years which racist white boomers yearn for. The inflation of the rand from 1960-1990 was very low, and only spiked as a consequence of the heaviest years of Sanctions imposed upon the country because of Liberal Democracies trying to pressure SA into dismantling the white state.

https://mybroadband.co.za/news/business/386480-the-rand-is-60-years-old-today-here-is-how-much-south-africans-paid-for-coffee-bread-and-beer-in-1961.html

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1742817022RDiBhfenWWc2LQ.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1742817023koBGwpYegdSG0A.webp

Thus, whilst the growth of the Rand was low, the buying power remained proportional, and real growth kept up well beyond the GDP growth. Like let me ask you guys, would you rather earn money in the Turkish Lira with an economy which grows by 10% each year, but a motherfricking inflation of 40% annually, or the stable dollar which appreciates in economic growth of a mere like 5%, but has a proportional inflation of 5-6%?! Cuz only one of those fricking currencies retains their real buying value by the next fricking year :marseytrollgun: :marseytrollgun: :marseytrollgun:

Speaking of Dollars, would you believe that there was a time in the past where the Rand was fricking MORE valuable than the $ dollar?

https://businesstech.co.za/news/finance/116372/rand-vs-the-dollar-1978-2016/

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1742817023HnIj7D2UOWsIRA.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17428170239Rt7twaC0vioJQ.webp

This means that the International forces of supply and demand graded the Rand's economy to be even MORE stable than that of fricking America, for it's 1st 50 years, and that the Rand only breached parity with the dollar in 1982, after which the currency's depreciation gained momentum and tanked due to sanctions, and limited international usage.

GDP to Population growth rates are a useful barometer for testing the general health of a Nation State's economy, but just like the Murder rates, it's a deeply deceptive statistic, when applied to South Africa specifically, as we've had very unique circumstances.


Additionally, just like taking the year 1993 in a vacuum, this deliberately ignores the years from 1980-1993, in which the Apartheid government suffered crippling international embargoes and sanctions. It is absurd to compare an internationally open Economy to one being choked to death during the Cold War.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_sanctions_during_apartheid

https://www.gao.gov/products/t-nsiad-88-34

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1742817023dq_J0VjNSHnPIg.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1742817023gaHMguXoLh4jgg.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1742817023kuhcFEqETx-_1w.webp

That the Apartheid government could continue to function DESPITE these sanctions Versus a peacetime economy is not an advocation for modern ANC rule.


(3) :marseyflagsouthafrica: SERVICING THE FEW VS THE MANY:

https://old.reddit.com/r/southafrica/comments/1jgi64j/to_commemorate_sharpeville_massacre_let_me_put/mizf53k/?context=8

Another thing which many commenters state is that many boomer Apartheid-Apologists fail to recognize that the majority of the previous regime had serviced the white-minority primarily, whilst the new fledgling black government under the ANC were forced to now uplift and service with water and electricity the entirety of the nation, instead of just the priviledged few whites.

This is absolute sincere merit to this, and many new challenges was inherited by the Nelson Mandela regime, which the de Klerk administration did not have to deal with, and so it is unfair to compare the two situations, in which white-supremacists would never give them their fair dues.

However, this philosophical question also ignores all of the advantages the ANC inherited from the Apartheid-Regime.


Example pretty much all of the majority of the exceptional railways of the previous administration inherited was run into the ground. I made a Longpost about it. Basically, our railways used to transport raw ore between mines and docks and manufacturers.

https://rdrama.net/post/159741/south-african-train-drama-marseytrainmarseytrainmarseytrainmarseytrain

When loadshedding occurred 2021-2023, the majority of the Coalstations imploding were done by Power-Stations built in the 1970s-1980s

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_power_stations_in_South_Africa

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1742817023094qBsnpbxmmSQ.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17428170234KIAo8nTKJsyyQ.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1742817024qLo65tULGjUPdA.webp

And part of the reason why these Loadsheddings disasters occurred was because they were never intended to be operated beyond 50-60 years post construction, yet their decommission dates were continually fricking extended, despite constant constant warnings by the white engineers working there. Yet they were never maintained.

https://www.moneyweb.co.za/news/south-africa/the-shocking-performance-of-eskoms-three-worst-power-stations/

https://archive.ph/2acGr

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1742817024W3wwWg6AYA-HrQ.webp

The shittiest of these Power-Stations inherited are literally producing LESS electricity from 30 years ago because the r-slurs literally don't comprehend how to properly operate them

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1742817024axzl1JVSYbaPYQ.webp

This should not be a factor of the government not being capable of operating the fricking more expensively, it is the same budget as supposed to be from 30 years ago, yet the inefficiency derived from incompetence and corruption means it costs the taxpayer MORE per Watt to generate the same fricking amount of electricty!!! :electro: :electro: :electro:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1742817024IIRmnqk-K6qonw.webp

Next one is 40 years old - aka before the magical 30 year number.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1742817024pyzRWSUchdFp0g.webp


https://old.reddit.com/r/southafrica/comments/1jgi64j/to_commemorate_sharpeville_massacre_let_me_put/mizf53k/?context=8

Also this is a random nitpick, and nothing to do with anything, but just an example as to the compiling inaccuracies. The white population was just under 10% in 1993, it is currently 7% of the overall population in the year 2025, thus showcasing how out of date these people are.

Thus even by the stats they quote they are inaccurate.

Additionally, the country also developed a larger black middle class tax base from which to accrue national funding for modern administrations, something which wasn't feasible during the race-based laws of the previous administration.

https://www.liberty.co.za/media-insights/uct-liberty-institute-of-strategic-marketing-updates-south-africas-black-middle-class-research-report

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1742817024SaYjX7X7866Byg.webp

And lastly, a staggeringly small portion of the country is already paying for the vast majority of basic income taxes, which forms the brunt of all healthy economies. Since whites make the majority of the nation's middle class (those without debt), this can also be perceived as whites effectively already subsidizing the majority of the net expenditure of the Welfare state, or seen in another way, whites have been taxed such as semi-reparations for the past 30 years!

https://dailyinvestor.com/finance/79226/1-5-of-south-africans-pay-61-of-all-income-tax/

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1742817024g3E-6PNN7CoRaA.webp

So lol, if it is ultimately a truth that Apartheid-Apologists ignore that the Apartheid government only had to service the few, then it is also logical to turn that argument around, in that virtually the Apartheid government ONLY taxed the white minority for any real monetary value, and the current modern government is TODAY obtaining almost HALF of all income tax from whites, despite them being only 7% of the population, and thus subsidizing the poorest of the population in the forms of the many Wellfare projects like HOP housing and monthly grants for the jobless, which is a form of modern reparations to begin with.

A better argument might have been that those few whites could afford to be the sole tax base, because they could draw from a disenfranchised poor black labour base, which had zero economic prospects under the oppressive rule of the state, and thus filled the invisible intangible addition towards the country's income.

https://old.reddit.com/r/southafrica/comments/1jgi64j/to_commemorate_sharpeville_massacre_let_me_put/mj1kwce/?context=8


https://old.reddit.com/r/southafrica/comments/1jgi64j/to_commemorate_sharpeville_massacre_let_me_put/mizcg8d/?context=8

I find this fascinating that they believe the people they hate are exclusively vulnerable to the vice of ignorance and stupidity.

https://old.reddit.com/r/southafrica/comments/1jgi64j/to_commemorate_sharpeville_massacre_let_me_put/mizjwtx/?context=8

Your graph which contravenes my point ACTUALLY proves it! :smugjak: :smugjak: :smugjak:


(4) :marseyflagsouthafrica: WORSENED STATS:

Remember how South Africa was better crimewise due to the lowered murder rates.

https://www.news24.com/News24/SA-r*pe-capital-of-the-world-20051122

By 2005, r*pes had skyrocketed so sharply, and reached such absurd numbers, that some feminist groups had decided to label South Africa, as the R*pe :rape: Capital of the World to draw attention to its horrifying rates.

https://businesstech.co.za/news/lifestyle/788394/crime-surges-in-south-africa-with-murder-assault-and-vandalism-getting-worse/

Non-murder crimes are also incrementally increasing year-by-year

https://www.protectionweb.co.za/civil-security/concerning-crime-figures-revealed-in-key-stats-sa-report/

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1742817025BRNLSobcUEzsGQ.webp


And this is the issue what many shitlibs misunderstand or deliberately misconstrue when Afrikaans boomers state that crime and the economy and public services are worse than ever before.

In Apartheid Safrica, crimes like r*pes were unheard of. Black men were prosecuted harshly if they r*ped black women, just as harshly as white male feminists. Not because the Totalitarian government was the good guys, or because of benevolence, but because the oppressive government deemed it needed that its citizens be submissive to all laws, the from the most benign to the most serious. Theft was prosecuted severely, murder was prosecuted with fantastic successful rates.

https://www.algoafm.co.za/domestic/thousands-of-murders-remain-unsolved-in-sa

In modern South Africa, the lionshare of murders remain unsolved. In Safrica 40 years ago you oppressed with your head pressed into the sand by the steel boots of the police, but you were safe in the streets, both black and white peeps. Again not because of benevolence towards the minorities by the white-government, but because total order in all aspects of life was enforced. It was a similar philosophy like the broken-window doctrine which yank police used to combat gang crime - in that police resources was used to stamp out dysfunction of neighbourhood in their cradle, namely that widespread broken windows of dilapidated economic shitholes in run-down neighbourhood were symptomatic of dysfunction, thus police targeted those areas 1st.

So too was the philosophy of the Apartheid police to stamp out ANC communists and other detractors. What black peeps and liberals fail to understand, is that democratic freedom was supposed to be gained WITHOUT the complete fricking collapse of the nation's policing standards and the ability to punish the most basic of crimes.

https://www.quora.com/Why-is-South-Africa-s-police-force-so-obese-and-still-allowed-to-be-in-service

When Afrikaans Boomers speak of better services and public works like Sewage Refineries that fricking worked

https://groundup.org.za/article/half-of-south-africas-sewage-treatment-works-are-failing/

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1742817025bLZ0ugjlbfkRWQ.webp

they mean that they could literally drink the tap water and not get dysentry and have to stand in the lien to buy bottled fresh water. These same fascilities have existed for 30 years and were inherited. And the argument that modern black government has to service more people instead of the few 7% doesn't hold water (punny), when fricking the Sewage Refineries are collapsed because of systemic ingrained incompetence, rather than the water pipes to poor black townships are found wanting because there is no budget to service 100% of the country instead of jus the white neighbourhoods!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111 :marseyitsallsotiresome: :marseyitsallsotiresome: :marseyitsallsotiresome: :marseyitsallsotiresome:


What a lot of black peeps and shitlibs fail to comprehend is that yes, the Apartheid Government was constructed to primarily service the minority, but that that service was of the highest quality on earth. It's like they are incapable of comprehending meritocracy. Yes, the Union regime was a totalitarian discriminatory state, which excluded non-whites from participation via meritocracy. But the INGROUP meritocracy was of the highest caliber, the whites were forced to hire and induct only the best of leadership, because of so many external factors enforcing them to be the very best version of themselves or suffer societal collapse. External international pressure and internal discontent, meant that the apartheid state enforced societal pressure upon Afrikaners to perform beyond mediocrity, only in such an environment could 4 millions whites rule over 40 million blacks/coloureds/indians for 50 years.

And again this was pressures and enemies afrikaners made for ourselves by our own cruel regime from the whole world, but the fact remains that meritocracy ruled the Afrikaner race with an intensity, it had to be, otherwise they faced what the Frogs on their plantations faced in Vietnam.

What was supposed to happen was that the Black rulers of modern SA was supposed to rule with benevolence over their own, they haven't even done so. Much progress had been made with upliftment of the black middle class, the creation of the HOP housing programs, but just as many steps backwards undermine the prosperity of modern black peeps, often directly a result of their own black leaders, more than even the deliberate cruelty of the Apartheid regime intended. :marseydeadinside2: :marseydeadinside2: :marseydeadinside2: :marseydeadinside2: :marseydeadinside2:


I can't remember if I told this story before, but i once talked to a black farmhand who worked for my grandfather, he was jobless and asking me for work, he was 60ish, but at the time I was a mere brokenshit poorcel student and had nothing to give. He wasn't a begger, he was asking for work.

He tried to butter me up, and stated that it was better in the old days, under my now deceased grandfather. But he really meant it. He didn't mean to be some uncle Tom who hearkened back to an oppressive time - what he had meant was that his economic prospects were literally better 30 years ago.

https://old.reddit.com/r/southafrica/comments/1jgb9xx/65_years_since_the_sharpeville_massacre_where_69/mixrn0w/?context=8

Whilst a large growing black middle class had been created in South African cities, many poor black rural peeps have found ever increasing inequality and reliance on government grants, as the systemic ANC corruption of local rural municipalities (having had no political competition for 30 years, and thus no reason for improvement) had reached such a grand scale, that they stole literally ALL of teh tax money and expended virtually nothing for public services or maintenance, so that water pipes broke, trashmen trucks became defunct, roads filled with potholes and the water became undrinkable without boiling.

Whilst for the majority of Black Safricans, their live improved, For many of these rural peeps, their lives tangibly worsened, NOT because the Union government were the good guys, or even becuase they were benevolent, but because the sheer magnitude of the scale of neglect by the ANC was such, that in hindsight and retrospect that in some ways the totalitarian Apartheid regime had taken better care of basic needs like water and electricity, because they demanded order, and not because they were benevolent. :doomer:


!effortposters !bookworms

96
Jump in the discussion.

No email address required.

Impressive. The first ledditor believes that population growth lowers economic growth. Did he give a gander at per capita GDP growth rates anyway?

:marseyclapping:

Jump in the discussion.

No email address required.

Population growth will basically always mean gdp growth but that is a profoundly uninteresting statistic. Who cares if gdp is up just because there are more people around if no one is richer for it?

Population growth can absolutely have a negative effect on the prosperity of a country though. Just look at Canada. Importing vast amounts of low skilled jeets just means that businesses have little reason for capital investments to increase productivity, as they can simply throw an endless stream of cheap labour at any problem. Meanwhile housing and services gets completely swamped driving up costs.

Jump in the discussion.

No email address required.

Population growth will basically always mean gdp growth but that is a profoundly uninteresting statistic.

You treat it like common knowledge, but there was a decades long "war" in economics over this. Of course, population growth is generally good because the naysayers finally lose that argument (after decades of fighting).

In general, population growth is a good thing since government needs future taxpayers to keep greasing voters. With Canada, they imported... what, 10% of 30 million over two years? It's too much, and they did nothing to fix the supply problems like housing through deregulation.

:marseyshrug:

Jump in the discussion.

No email address required.

Tbqh it probably does if you're :marseyback#toeurope: and your "population" growth comes exclusively from importing 3rd world goat-frickers that'll just live off bennies...

Jump in the discussion.

No email address required.

Yeah, the Eurotard policy of having a lavish welfare state while importing anybody was r-slurred. My point still stands though. :marseyhmmhips:

Jump in the discussion.

No email address required.

Sure, I just wanted to use the chance to seethe about r*pefugees :marseymalding:

Jump in the discussion.

No email address required.



Link copied to clipboard
Action successful!
Error, please refresh the page and try again.