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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/feb/14/san-francisco-police-woman-crime-dna-rape-kit
This is really fricked but what else are you supposed to do when the DNA pings a match? Just ignore it?
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actual lol
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actually in tears lmao, holy shit.
I think snappy broke me today, i cant
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Thats kinda fricked, Snappy
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Jesus christ have some sympathy
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I've never seen snappy be this sentient with one of my Marseys before
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Just donβt commit crimes?? Thereβs literally no problem here lmao
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Probably big crimes too right? Theyre not keeping dna records for shoplifters
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Just like 90% of problems peope omplain about the issue has already been accounted for.
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I think itβs fricked up because the r*pe kit was years ago and the crime just happened
So if you ever report a r*pe youβre on an insta-found criminal list lol
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just dont do crimes then lol
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Ok be prepared for your DNA cheek swab next time you fly through your windshield, chud
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Are you calling Aevann a criminal?
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Oops, didnβt read his name. I take it all back
@Aevann !
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Weβve been using lineage search DNA databases to find murderers and male feminists for awhile now and I have never seen any true crime obsessed foids care about constitutional rights lol
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That is why you submit third person DNA
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There's literally no rights violations in searching though ancestry site DNA stuff.
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I'm struggling to see how this is any different from other info police would gather.
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A killer escapes from prison. He gets mugged. He goes to report it. The police arenβt allowed to arrest him because it would discourage people from reporting crimes.
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noooo, but i should still be able to steal from people even if I get r*ped, noooo
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For context that DA and the SFPD are in a massive lawsuit/argument at the moment, so of course the DA is jumping down SFPD's throat.
I believe that DA (who's parents were literal weather underground terrorists) is also facing a recall election, so he's trying to score some last minute political points.
Edit: check out the early life section for the terrorism info (along with the usual early life meme): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chesa_Boudin
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The mayor also sued the school board recently, and there are lefty-started recalls for several progressive school board members this week. It's a slow motion lefty circular firing squad
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School board recall is tomorrow. I can't fricking wait. I don't even live in San Francisco but all lifelong politicians should be voted out of office regardless of party or political leanings.
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What happened to republicanism of old? You get to play politician for 4 years, then you get told to frick off and someone else gets your seat.
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Expecting piliticians to have any involvement in the real world/industry is actually facism sweaty, please let politicians exist as a completely separats class of aristlcrats
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In republics of old you stayed a part of the senate for life.
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That early life is a /pol/ wet dream
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Cuomo granted clemency to Chesa's dad as he was on his way out the door for being Italian
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This is the endgame of the health pass system all the foids want so bad cause they want to feel safe.
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Biofoids take L after L
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Based, they should automatically exonerate whoever she accused of r*pe, since sheβs already a proven liar/criminal. She should have to pay damages for pain and suffering too.
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βmale feminist makes citzens arrest and case with a few strokesβ
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If moids have to suffer the atf collecting all their 4473s in shipping containers, foids have to suffer this
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Well the idea is they shouldn't have been storing a victims DNA in a criminal database to begin with. It's a pretty unique circumstance that they took advantage of. Victims of almost any other crime- like assault or robbery- are not required to provide a DNA sample to get the police to investigate their case. Hypothetically, although I doubt it, if the courts were to side with the cops we could see a future where everybody who reports a crime for an investigation would be required to provide a DNA sample which will then be logged indefinitely into their database. This could come back to haunt you in the event that a close relative commits a crime or if they get a partial sample from a crime scene that is close enough to yours that they could pin a case on you. Not to mention general privacy issues and the possibility to sell the information under the right circumstances.
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R*pe victims aren't required to give anything to the police. If someone says they mugged a guy and found evidence that he's a murderer; do you think the police should be able to check who had reported a mugging to solve the murder?
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That's the point. They aren't required to give it, the cops took the r*pe victims DNA and added to their criminal database just because they had access to it. I'm not talking about just this specific person, they've done this with all the r*pe kits they've processed. If the courts were to decide that this is ok, then that would mean technically it would be legally ok to do this with victims of any kind of crime that they investigate. For example, if someone were to stab you and they took the knife for evidence, your DNA would now be added to a criminal database. You haven't done anything wrong, but your DNA is going to be in the database with the DNA of actual criminals and will be a part of every search they run in the future.
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Yeah, when you hand things over to the police they then have those things. You never responded to my example.
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Just because law enforcement acquires something does not mean that they are permitted to use it in a case or keep it indefinitely. Evidence for closed cases are to be returned to the victim or destroyed after a certain period of time. Letβs say your wedding ring got stolen during that stabbing. They donβt keep that ring forever once itβs been found. They have to return it to you at some point. If you give the cops your phone to pull text messages for a case that doesnβt mean that they now have free access to your bank account as well just because you have the banks app on your phone too.
Your example is completely different from the situation being discussed. If a mugger comes to the police and says he mugged a guy but that he believes the property stolen proves that the victim might be a serial killer, law enforcement could then open a separate investigation into the victim if they so choose. What he turns in could possibly be used as probable cause for a search warrant but later not be admitted into evidence for the trail due to the nature of how it was acquired.
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Hmm so they should be able to use these r*pe victims dna for probable cause? And evidence of crimes is not necessarily returned or destroyed. That's how so many murder convictions are overturned with DNA evidence. So that point you made is clearly bunk.
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Homicide cases are unique when compared to other crimes. Even when theyβre βclosedβ, theyβre open due to their nature. There is also no victim to return the belongings to because they are deceased, and victimβs rights are also regarded as a general non-issue because there is no longer a victim to protect. And DNA isnβt really used as probably cause for things because you typically you need the warrant to get the DNA. Thatβs what makes a circumstance like this so unusual and potentially troubling for future cases. Think about how much hair the average person sheds in a day. In almost any place a person goes thereβs a chance they could leave a trace of themselves there and any place could be the scene of a potential crime in the future. Witness descriptions can be vague and security cam footage isnβt always clear. If we live in a world where you can run a blanket search on anybodyβs DNA without probable cause you better hope you donβt vaguely meet a perps description and have happened to shed a hair at the crime scene location some point. Without a solid alibi for the time of the events, you could be in serious trouble. Juries like DNA evidence, even if the rest of the case is very weak. If we get to a point where traditional case building can be skipped and prosecutors can just lean on circumstantial DNA evidence, it could potentially be very easy to get juries to convict innocent people.
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A record of a victims dna is a record, not property that needs to be returned from them. The rest is just appeal to emotion.
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Since you donβt see the legal implications of this, I guess you see it as more of a non-right to privacy issues. I suppose youβre the type that believe that DNA samples should be taken when issuing birth certificates because as long as you never do anything wrong you never have anything to worry about. I disagree. I believe that our genetic information is the most personal information possible and that it should be safeguarded just as much, if not more, than anything else private in our lives. I do not believe that if you become a victim of a crime that your right to your genetic information should now be considered forfeit. But youβre free to have your own views about privacy.
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Posts like this is why I do Heroine.
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The vigilante we need
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LMAO considering the Foid was probably asking for it anyway, sounds like justice.
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I think the r*pe was first. So the male feminist is just a clairvoyant
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Honestly, unless it's a crime of the utmost severity, yeah. You're going to cause a chilling effect on report rates, and outrage the public even further. You can't chase down every crime, and sexual assault is a very serious crime. You want that to be reported, and don't want to make people fear reporting it. They already do.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/feb/14/san-francisco-police-woman-crime-dna-r*pe-kit
Says here it was a felony property crime. Juice ain't worth the squeeze.
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This unironically really sucks. Women shouldn't be scared to make truthful r*pe accusations because they're worried it'll turn up past crimes. They should be scared to make false r*pe accusations because they'll go to prison for it.
We live in a SOCIETY
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get fricked around, find out
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This is an extremely rare case where I actually agree with the generally psychotic SF DA.
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I hate it when women say they're r*pe survivors. Everyone survives r*pe it's non-lethal.
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Got nothing to hide got nothing to fear
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Based and all but sounds legally questionable.
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Building DNA databases will scare foids away from reporting r*pe, while simultaneously 23andMe and covid testing companies sell your DNA to the feds and people still use those
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I'd literally give the government my DNA. What are they going to do with it?
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Assign you the job you were destined for
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