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the male body evolved to be more optimized to do sports

So this means that transwomen are women who were born without the physical disavantange that other women weren't born with, and they should not use it to screw over other women, because then they are betraying their own group, they should instead use this power to help other women, and not screw them over.

I think this shows where the real line is. I've noticed that trans women who share this opinion, or any common sense stance like this, get harrased by other trans women. I also can't help but notice the difference in these two groups go beyond opinion.

The ones that have women friendly views tend to actually like women, have women friends, and usually put some effort into passing because they want to be seen ultimately want to be seen as women and not just trans women. They don't invalidate the experinces or pain bio women have gone through. They are allies to women because they know, despite how they may appear to some, they are women too.

Then there's the other side of the coin, and also often the most vocal side. They don't seem to actually like women that much. They limit their view of womanhood to stereotypes and caricatures. They don't care about what bio women have been through or what their lived experinces are because in their minds it will never be as important as those of trans women. Unsurprisingly, they have little to no bio women friends. They are very aggressive about being unconditionally placed and accepted into traditional women's spaces. They usually don't put too much effort into passing because to them it shouldn't matter any way.

In my opinion, first group= trans women. Womanhood is something they feel inside. It's a part of them and they want to be a part of it in society. Second group= AGPs. Womanhood is something to be consumed and conquered. They get great enjoyment out of bending society with their "womanhood" and putting biowomen in their place. Women's best interest are not their interest because deep down inside they don't relate to women, only the trans woman identity.

s need to stick to dilating and stop embarassing themselves whit sports

This gives women who were born with a male body

This has never happened in the history of biology.

trans women should use their special power

And what power is this? I don't watch or read much capeshit/superhero/comic book stuff, but I don't think I've ever heard of a power like this?

Morphological and chromosomal sexes in Mammalia are a bimodal distribution, not exclusive categories drawn from some Natural Law Eternal Ideals; There are potentially infinite s*x types in humans, and science doesn't prescribe who is "male" and who is "female", only tries to describe the diversity of human sexual types.

Because of this, there are no morphological (nor chromosomal) holotypes nor allotypes for the Homo sapiens taxon -- neither morphological, nor chromosomal, nor genetic, nor epigenetic -- upon which a defensible, "Scientific" or "Biological" axiomatic claim of "S*x" being exclusively, binarily, "Male" or "Female" could rest.

There's an "XY-chromosomed" woman carrying to term her first child; There is scientific literature demonstrating that women with XY predominant chromosome typing can reproduce. There are XX men, women with Klinefelter, men with Klinefelter, non-binary human beings with Klinefelter.

This is an editorial by the editors of Nature, the single highest citation index scientific periodical in the world, supporting this fact, and relating it to gender, a social construct related to biological differences but also rooted in culture, societal norms and individual behaviour.

A genetic typing test does not determine whether someone is "sexually" or socially a man or a woman!

The rhetorical formation of "Biological women" is not supported scientifically, and is a rhetorical formation that signifies "Only cisgender women, and never transgender women", in a manner which the person using it hopes allows them to escape negative consequences for hatred of, and discrimination against, transgender women. The reduction of men and women to "xx" and "xy" is as scientifically defensible, and as hatefully ideologically motivated, as reducing the determination of who is and who is not "human" via relegating certain ethnicities to "throwbacks", "subhumans", "neanderthals" or "troglodytes" by examining their cheekbones or "cranial capacities".

So, here's the thing:

We transgender people have science, and scientists, and medical science, and psychiatry, and biology, and biologists, and our medical doctors on our side.

And bigots have a lot of people who are weaponising the Fallacy of Composition, platforming nonsense pseudo-science, and allying with theocratic queermisic, homomisic, transmisic violent fascists to demand that we are legally treated as subhuman, while repeating literal Nazi propaganda, being racist against aboriginal peoples and their cultures, and calling transgender people a cult.

This is not a debate subreddit. This is not a soapbox subreddit. The hateful talking points of bigots are not platformed here, not given credence here, not lent credibility by being "seriously considered" in a manner that belies the fact that they're exactly as credible as the bigots who put people to death for saying the world is 6 billion years old, or persecuted scientists for saying that humans evolved from a common ancestor with other modern primates.

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I don't remember asking rdrama to solve societies problems. We're here to watch the drama not stop it

and they should not use it to screw over other women, because then they are betraying their own group

I finally get to use this trite saying:

The cruelty is the point.

trans women beat women

(Also I did not forget about trans men, I just don't want write even more words, and that's also a way different complex issue.)

Not really, have them both compete with men

Sorry, my uni already passed a resolution to put the swim coach through a reeducation program.

WHAT'S WITH ALL THE AUT1STIC LONGPOSTING GOING ON?

DID PIZZASHILL HAVE CHILDREN AND NOW THEY'RE ALL GROWN UP AND POSTING ON DRAMA.NET??