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How to respond to the question "What Is A Woman?" - r/asktransgender

https://old.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/ur1hv4/how_to_respond_to_the_question_what_is_a_woman?sort=controversial

Edit: A couple of commenters gave the perfect answer to this question and I would like to share it as a way to help others to combat the transphobes:

What is a woman?

Woman is a gender identity. Most commonly held (but not limited to) adult females, and is associated with certain traits and behaviours that can vary depending on the culture. In American (and many westernised cultures), identifying as and behaving as a woman, is generally associated with things like femininity, child-raising, emotional sensitivity, etc. However, people can identify as a woman without adhering to specific traits because how someone chooses to express their identity can vary from person to person.

so it's something most commonly held by adult females but not exclusively, that's associated with certain things but someone can be a woman without said things :derpthumbsup:


There is no response that you can make that will lead to a satisfying outcome rather than just more nitpicking of the vocabulary in whatever you responded with. I am somewhat prepared to go down the "a woman is a person who is recognized as a member of the social category of women" path, but there's really no way to win.

no way to answer, no way to win

"You don't" is indeed the correct answer, because it's a bad faith question designed to put you in a position where they can pick apart your definition to invalidate trans identity. But if you must play their game, I say treat it like one and frick with them.

"Anyone who feels like they're a woman is a woman, even if they don't have a peepee."

"You're trying to tell me I'm not a woman and you don't even know what one is?"

"Aren't you a little old for the 'birds and the bees' talk?"

"A miserable little pile of secrets. Have at you!"

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You don't. It's a bad-faith argument. You don't play games with conservatives, and certainly not by their own rules.


what is a woman

Someone who genuinely, in good faith, identifies as such

bad faith good faith

adding on to "you don't" - no word is defined by strict reasoning. we understand words through associations with concepts, images in our heads - this is called prototype theory (in linguistics). so if you're trying to define anything it gets weird. there's not really a good answer

linguists can't define words

Definitions like "adult human female", for instance, are paper-thin and no better at encapsulating all women, and only women, than any other.

does not elaborate on this point further

"What is a woman?", said the transphobe.

"Baby, don't hurt me, don't hurt me", said the trans person.

The transphobe attempted to respond to this, but the trans person cut them off saying "no more".

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amongst the redditors saying bad faith and making shitty jokes someone did actually try to answer... in 1400-ish words, read here if you care

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Their idiotic “adult human female” isn’t the “gotcha” they think it is since like that includes trans women, soooo.

Gender and s*x are different unless I need them to mean the exact same thing, chud.

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Wel, well, well...I see someone hasn't taken an Advanced Biology class

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Advanced biology is when a psychologist grooms a boy into becoming a girl and drives him to suicide. Like, why do i even need to explain this chuds? :marseyfacepalm:

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Next in the class on biology and s*x:

Who is John Money, and why he is the most import person in history.

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John Money

woah this dude sounds problematic

particularly in regard to his involvement with the involuntary s*x-reassignment of the child David Reimer,[3] his forcing this child and his brother to simulate s*x acts which Money photographed[4] and the adult suicides of both brothers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Money?oldformat=true

There's a pattern in all of these stories...

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If you're trying to chudpost his early life says he has "English and Welsh descent" so that won't work.

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I remember having an argument with a friend over if jews really controlled the economy and he pulled up financial, regulatory, and banking agencies and looked at the early life of the people named in the wikipedia articles and none of them were jewish so he stopped :marseyxd:

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Everyone knows that regulatory agencies are the province of the Irish

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His last name is money thats close enough

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It was 100% cute and valid of him to take pictures while he made two underage brothers simulate s*x with each other.

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Someone should do a study on if bullying results in better outcomes for trans youth than gender reassignment surgery

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One thing I don't know and couldn't find the answer for.

Is John Money... a jew?

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Doesn't his experiment just prove how valid trans people are. Like it clearly proves gender is a state of mind, if literally changing your s*x hormones and genitalia as a youth isn't enough to make you identify as a female.

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I can’t find it rn sorry but there was a study bout dementia patients n gays remembered they gay but tranners didn’t so gayness like inherent n :!marseytrain:s aren’t is what I got from that

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Most trans ppl already have several mental illnesses so the dementia probably just was accelerated

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i mean ... the world needs more drama. and less people. seems like a win win to me. :marseywholesome:

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Trans people truly are the patron saints of rDrama

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So what is an adult human female?

I also like the whole "being a woman is only a thing in the west". Would love to know what world they live in to believe that

The best part about this whole "what is a woman" thing is they can't even come to a consensus within their own hugbox. They're constantly having to add addendums because at the end of the day there's no definition they can give that is fully inclusive to the clusterfrick of an ideology they've created "that doesn't include women who don't pass tho!!!"

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I also like the whole "being a woman is only a thing in the west".

fricking LOL. these degenerate western freaks are the only ones pretending to not know what a woman is. thais and indians don't pretend their ladyboys and hijras are women (afaik, @Sasanka_of_Gauda redpill us on hijras), countries where (sexual) violence against women is prevalent don't act obtuse and like they can't tell a woman from a man. this is just peak westoid :marseytrain: projecion and delusion

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Don't you wish your trains were like ours? :#marseybutt:

edit: i've got bad news for that 1400+ word longposter....

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Ladyboys are so different from western trains. For starters, they pass. They also aren't actively hostile towards women and seem proud to call themselves ladyboys. Western trains are obsessed with the trans identity but if anyone even suggest that they aren't 100% truly authentic valid women they lose their shit.

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Lady boys aren’t really trains at all. They are just cute twinks dressing like women to get straggots.

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They're basically sissys/CDs. Which also explains why trains are always SEETHING about them: https://old.reddit.com/r/MtF/comments/u86ccs/please_stop_using_sissycd_accounts_to_post_on/?sort=controversial

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Based self-aware unicorns on the universal Hot/Crazy Matrix

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And they still look better than traggots

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The entire male s*x of your island have more estrogen than one black woman

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crackka cope

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Sneed. Black “women” are basically men.

!blackjack105

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Sneed. Black “women” are basically men.

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get your t levels checked yt boi

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ily for trying bb frfr these frickers ignorant

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Even your cherry picked lanklets look like men. 😂

!blackjack105

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beautiful 🥺😭

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Looks like she’s got quite a lot of huwite admixture.

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They were kinda like that in South America too, The so called "transvestites" never claimed to be real women either, they pretty much admit it's a fetish and they are crackheads too, more often than not. But here comes the insane burger-kind of :marseytrain: cultists, because SA likes to copy everything the US does, claiming the transvestites under the train umbrella and claiming they too are, heckin' valid real womxn.

Even funnier and r-slurred is them trying to change an entire language structure to suit the sensibilities of mentally ill zoomers trying to import this Tumblr r-sluration manifested into reality. How the literal crack-addicts crossdressing manwhores of SA are "saner" than the burger/bong :!marseytrain:s is something I'll never understand.

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I think the transvestite is more of Brazil than general South American thing, haven’t seen or heard similar from the other countries.

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Argentina, Uruguay and Chile. Maybe other places as well but those are the shitholes that were always more "accepting" of the crossdressing prostitutes.

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It all comes from Argentina, after the jews proved their God exists to Hitler and the nazis the ex nazis moved to Argentina and began trying to atone for their sins. One of the first things they did was invent ladyboys.


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Huh, learn something new :marseyreading:

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Verdict: Weak MALE

Weak emphasis could indicate European.

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Trains would be much more accepted here if they looked like that instead of like bardfinn

You get the appearance of being with a woman to keep the boomer parents happy, and it comes with the superior bussy when you're in the bedroom. WIN WIN

Also the cameraman deserves a medal for panning down as soon as he says he's a ladyboy

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Bruh hijras even acknowledge that their whole cult started from the Mughal emperors needing eunuchs to guard their harem. :marseylaugh: They outright admit they are eunuchs themselves, I knew about this ofc but it was still hilarious reading a libshit's book about a budding train :marseyeggirl: where this historical fact is brought up, she actually romanticized castrating male slaves lmfao.

On a more sober note sure they acknowledged they were castrati but they still castrate kids themselves. :marseysadge: Article from better times, it'd never be printed now.

https://www.indiatimes.com/news/lgbtq-the-truth-about-how-hijras-are-made-in-india-because-they-re-not-always-born-that-way-257525.html

Only 1 percent of eunuchs are born so, while the rest either pretend to be hijras (eunuch) or have been forced to join the community by abduction and castration, reveals a study by the All-India Hijra Kalyan Sabha (AIHKS). Khairati Lai Bhola of All India Hijra Kalyan Sabha (AIHKS), formed in 1984 to protect the rights of the community, says most eunuchs in the country are not transvestites or hermaphrodites. They are actually castrated men. “Young and addicted boys are abducted and then introduced to homosexuality by the agents of eunuch’s gurus. Castrations are clandestinely forced on them and ironically, very few people gather the courage to retaliate,” Bhola said. “The hijra mafia that controls the castrations operates secretly throughout the country. They have a network of hijra mandis where a newly castrated eunuch is auctioned to the highest bidder. The auction is conducted with claps - a single clap means Rs 1,000. Fair, clean-limbed boys who can earn more, attract highest bids. Victims are threatened with death if they break silence,” reveals Bhola.

:marseydepressed: :marseydepressed:

We should be going :marseyminigun: at these worthless criminal degenerates instead we're celebrating them thanks to westoid :marseytrans2:. I hate big city english speaking Indians so much. :ragestrangle:

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I also like the whole "being a woman is only a thing in the west". Would love to know what world they live in to believe that

Before western imperialists came along everyone else in the world were ignorant savages incapable of even language to differentiate between the two types of humans and unaware how baby formed.


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Theyre like the ancient trying to describe man and ended up settling on featherless biped, but somehow more r-slurred


:!marseybarrel: :marseybarreldrunk:

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the amount of sneed "adult human female" causes proves that this is cope.

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The mental and verbal gymnastics at this point is mind numbing.

Even the wordswordswords "trans-lesbian" poster does matrix backflips dodging around any definition involving gussy (ie non-ballsack gussylips etc.), which is central to the single one thing that is universally a cultural, colloquial, and literal/objective definition.

These people put the "cult" in cultural relativism.

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They like to throw in intersex people as though that's some sort of gotcha.

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medical anomalies totally mean that people who are clearly male and not intersex actually are female

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People born without arms are proof that people having arms is not a normal thing that we should define as human.

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you claim humans have two arms with ten fingers? heh, someone clearly didn't take Advanced Biology to know that there are some folx that don't have two arms or ten fingers. educate yourself, sweaty :soyjakanimeglasses:

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Humans are actually on a spectrum of having arms. From 0 to 2. It even has decimal points, like having 1.75 arms means you are like missing a hand.

Same applies obviously to legs. Humans are way more complex than we imagine.

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Manlets technically have less than 2 legs. They're clearly not full numbers.

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Wow, you're erasing that baby who was born with 3 arms.

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Polydactylia is proof that glove manufacturers don't exist.

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Most intersex people identify as their birth s*x, and their s*x is unambiguous at birth. Id you only count the conditions that actually cause s*x ambiguity it's like 1:10,000 live births.

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That's because intersex has been expanded to mean things that shouldn't really be considered intersex. It's where that "1.7% of people are intersex" number comes from. Intersex should be defined as s*x ambiguity (as the UN does in the first paragraph of this document, shortly before pulling the switcheroo and bringing up the 1.7% number again).

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Their idiotic “adult human female” isn’t the “gotcha” they think it is since like that includes trans women, soooo.

Also, if that were true, why aren't the :!marseytrain:s happy to use it? No need for anything more complicated if they're happy that it includes them.

Fricking slimy bastards.

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then who was trans?

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Then can they stop using intersex people as a justification for their r-sluration? If they're just an exception and not the rule?

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Have you noticed that a "bad faith question" is just any question they can't answer?


:#marseyklennycross:

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That sounds like bad faith actor arguments to me

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It's the intellectual laziness coupled with a smug attitude that bothers me.

"I'm smart because I have 'The Smart' opinion." :marseypuke:

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That's the response I got when I asked why we're not supposed to call Ezra Miller a man but are allowed to call the cops who arrested him men.

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Bad Faith actor means you don't agree with enough of what we say. We're not saying you have to agree with everything things like we can have debates on the taste of girl peepee but facts aren't up for debate and lets face it the science is settled trans women are women.

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Why yes i soent two hours thinkingup witty responses to questions conservatives might ask if i ever talked to any of them

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If you want to be a woman you should be able to answer what a woman is.


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Strangely being completly unable to answer simple questions is a womanly trait

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They go on such long tirades because they understand that the only way to ignore obvious realities is to overthink them.

If I tell you that ice is cold, they'll pull out 10 different studies that show me that "cold" is a subjective experience that varies on an individual basis. After all, three to four exceptions invalidates any rule you can come up with.

Then, they'll tell you that actually it's not even a real thing, as cold is merely an absence of heat! In fact, everything I said within that three-word statement is wrong, according to them.

Because they'd rather believe the world is wrong than accept they've gone insane.

TL;DR:

:#marseytrain: :#marseycope:

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They go on such long tirades because they understand that the only way to ignore obvious realities is to overthink them.

Holy shit, you solved Bardfinn

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ice

Wrong.

is

Wrong.

cold

Wrong.

Argument destroyed, chud. Post this on genocidedbywords.

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Somebody on arrrrgh drama when it was still a subreddit got a redditor to respond like 12 times in a row by just posting "Wrong" in response to them over and over. It was a work of art.

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Anyway, trans lives matter and trans women are women. Donate today!

:#marseytrans2:

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Yeah I wish they'd just say "a woman is anyone who identifies as one" and let the absurdity of that statement speak for itself

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The intellectual equivalent of saying banana over and over until your realize just how ridiculous it sounds.

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A woman is anyone who embodies a set of stereotypes that people were arguing were archaic, conservative beliefs that like half the population stopped adhering to years ago.

We now embrace those stereotypes in order to be valid

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:marseytrain2:, :marseytrain:, train, troid, TIM, Ellen Page, Steve Akins

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How much for you signature?

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500 DC for one week?

Just nothing that gets me into admin trouble.

:marseytrain2:, :marseytrain:, train, troid, TIM, Ellen Page, Steve Akins

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I’ll pay you 700 to make it say “Weebs and furries get the rope :marseyropeyourself2:

I need a average comment/day rate to make sure I get a return on my investment :marseymerchant:

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Oh hoh, competition. I’ll give Chapose time to see if the offer changes. :marseymerchant:

Sounds good otherwise. How many comments would you want? I’m pretty active and I’ve been pooping ‘em out without thinking lately. I’m also subscribed to power users so I can get in on their rising posts for visibility.

:marseytrain2:, :marseytrain:, train, troid, TIM, Ellen Page, Steve Akins

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Hmm, I could just forcefully appropriate your flair instead with my admin powers

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Out chosen-people’d

:marseymerchant: :!#marseymerchant:

:marseytrain2:, :marseytrain:, train, troid, TIM, Ellen Page, Steve Akins

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Theres always a bigger jew

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Im a drag queen.

Watch me scream, wear ugly butt clothes complain about shoes be over emotional and force myaelf into the center of attention always.

This is what real women act like b-word

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Drag is amazing since it’s a somehow acceptable minstrel show about women.

:#marseynails:

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Menstrual show.

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This is the funniest part of it all to me, since less than 10 years ago feminists were trying to convince me that these stereotypes were complete bullshit and harmful, and should not be associated with women at all.

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