Admins/Codecels/Jannies are going to implement EDIT LOGGING. In other words, there will be NO WAY TO ERASE YOUR POSTS/COMMENTS. EVERYTHING YOU SUBMIT HERE WILL BE SAVED AND SEEN BY ANYONE WHO IS GIVEN JANNY STATUS. Editing will no longer be able to protect your Privacy.

https://rdrama.net/post/75582/long-an-open-discussion-on-rdramas
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[Long] An open discussion on rDrama’s development part 2, aka idio being a petty piece of shit.

This is obviously a response to a carppost over here, so feel free to read it for his side of the story (wrong).

All this happened due to Kristallmopt, with Aevann asking ex-:marseyjanny: what features they'd miss. Seeing deleted comments came up. It was made into an idea of a profile upgrade (purchasable in shop), where every poweruser would be able to see user-deleted comments (jannymopped stuff would remain invisible). It almost happened. I accidentally noticed it in codecel channel and said this:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1684135205881239.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16841352061767004.webp

It was then polled and despite carp trying to argue for it, rejected unanimously. Reasons? We're trying to avoid this site becoming a den of snakes where every turbosperg with 20k :marseycoin: can go through your profile and find drunkposting that you deleted yourself months ago and use it to dox you. Also we don't want powerusers freaking out over minor shit and overwriting their entire comment history (which does happen more and more, annoyingly for readability of old posts).

This latter part led to a suggestion of making deleted comments just disappear from one's profile, as a way to make schizos less worried. We couldn't actually delete them from our DB entirely, for a variety of reasons, so this was basically just a visual bandaid to calm neurodivergents down a bit. Obviously it would only work if it wasn't public knowledge, so carp's spergout post made it pointless, and the idea has now been abandoned. You'll still be able to see your own deleted comments.

That part isn't a big deal. What is annoying, however, is that carp did argue for the former (bad) idea, while not saying a peep about the latter until the post that he made. Didn't vote against it, didn't say why this would be bad, nothing. Merely came on the site after it was approved and made its implementation pointless. That was supposed to show how our (((oligarchy))) is dysfunctional and we need a benevolent fish dictatorship, because (((oligarchy))) wants to take your features away. Also notable is that throughout that post he tried to gaslight the userbase by claiming that we were doing it to be more like reddit (a position that literally nobody took or would ever take). This was what dominated his entire post.

That's about it. That's all that happened.


TL;DR: Carp is gaslighting you. Nothing will actually change, nothing would have functionally changed anyway.

If you accidentally post information that could get you doxxed you ought to do the smart thing and overwrite it, then delete it. Except that anyone who has access to janny privileges (including hackers) will still have the original version of your deleted-and-overwritten comment and dox you with it. If someone on the mod team is too unhinged and breaks down, if you wrong one of the jannies in such a way that they throw a tantrum against you, if one of the jannies is kicked out and they retaliate against the site, or if we get hacked - you are at risk of being doxxed.

There is no longer any precautions or method to prevent this from happening.

Remember all those times where the site glitched out and people were logged into random accounts, including admin accounts? Imagine if we have that glitch again and someone who is logged into a janny account decides to comb the database for doxxable info.

Governments, agencies, and companies already have regular scandals where the people you are supposed to trust have abused their positions of power and exploit the information they have of you. And that's normal people with jobs and families.

Do you honestly trust jannies of a gay incel cat cult to be less unhinged and neurodivergent?

This site is dedicated to drama. It is inevitable that somewhere down in the future, a janny is going to go apeshit and cause a scandal. Edit logging would turn it from a spectacle into a danger with real life consequences.


https://i.rdrama.net/images/16841359392988935.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16841359401095989.webp

Moreover, they also planned on preventing users from seeing their own deleted comments, but would secretly still be able to view them and they were going to withhold this information from the entire userbase. They planned on deceiving every single one of you on your Right to Privacy and what happens to your information / who can see it / how you can control it.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16841359409068446.webp

Every single admin except carp are complicit in attempting to rob every user here of the right to know what happens with their data, their ability to control who gets it and who doesn't. Carp was the only one who voted AGAINST this measure, all others voted FOR it and wanted to keep it secret from YOU.

I don't care much about Carp. I don't get the cultish fascination some of you have over him. But:

carpathianflorist is the ONLY person on leadership who took a stand, prevent its implementation, and whistleblow on what would happen to your data. His "spergout" protected you from this invasive policy.


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not gonna read all this (didn't read carp's and idio3' posts either), but neither me nor snakes is adding this lol, we only heard about it just now and since we're the only two ppl with access to the repo and the server, it isnt really getting added

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Yeah this is news to me. Sounds like a pain in the butt to code too. Additionally, I'll borrow from a recent comment I made:

Despite the recent sperging over deletions and edits, we keep very little non-public info on any users. Pretty much the only things I'd have to remove from a DB export to feel comfortable publicly posting all of it would be email addresses / DMs / admin-removed posts. Everything else is readily available through the UI already.

I guess maybe throw password hashes onto that list too, though they're overkill hashes as it stands now. We also do not store IP addresses and we never have access to your IP address—it's all proxied through Cloudflare. Y'all need to chill.

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Then how does alt seeing eye work if you guys don't get ip addresses, or does cloudflare send you hashed markers or something?

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It barely works, honestly. 100% done with session cookies. Trivially easy to avoid.

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It just uses session cookies? What? :marseyyikes:

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Yeah, because no IP addresses and no browser fingerprinting because a very vocal minority here are paranoid schizos. Cookies are just about the only thing we have left.

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Cookies are bad for you unless you only have one every once and a while as a treat


Give me your money and I'll annoy people with it :space: https://i.rdrama.net/images/16965516366194396.webp

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But like, 99% of sites log IPs and VPNs exist. Just schizo things I guess.

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Cuck


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is this a snappy response

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So I just switch to brave or firefox and no one will ever know my chrome account?

:marseybrave::firecat:

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As far as Cloudflare can tell I'm Swiss.

:#marseyhacker:

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pain in the butt to code

It’s trivial to add edit history. Just add a trigger to put the old row into another table on update.

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!blackjack105

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pain in the butt to code

I’m available to consult since you’re clearly incompetent. My fee is paypig status

!blackjack105

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liar

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it was fricking true then (almost 2 years ago) :marseyshrug:

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Mr Aevann sir, in your opinion, why are the other jannies completely r-slurred?

:!#marseyreporterfox::#marseycapycarp:

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lack of oxygen in the womb probably

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Saving this comment so I can always go back and appreciate the moment.

:#marseyxd:

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:chadbasedcapy:


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Because they mod drama.

In this case though it's just Carp

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yeah you would say that. we all know about project BUS-EYE. look up aevann connection to mossad

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not gonna read all this (didn't read carp's and idio3' posts either)

:#marseycapychad:

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Good to see that some of you still know what the frick you're doing to this place.

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Conspiracy theorists on suicide watch

:#marseyschizowall::#marseytinfoil2::#marseyschizoshaking::#marseytinfoil:

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didn't read carp's and idio3' posts either

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Write only dbs are cool though. You could just store deltas like git.


:#marseytwerking:

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they are cool if you are lazy nerd or a :marseyglow:

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You've clearly never written software to support r-slurred underwriters who blame you when they overwrite their own commentary


:#marseytwerking:

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:#chadthankskingcapy:

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