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[POLL] Where is the line between volcel and incel?

I saw someone on here saying people who've never actively sought out dates aren't incels. Is this true? How hard so you have to seek out relationships?

I've never asked anyone out before (modulo your definition of what 'asking someone out' means), but I'm also khhv and depressed because of it. Do I not could as an incel because of my own autism/cowardice?

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How many girls do you have to ask about (on what is explicitly a date), then fail to enter a relationship (they say no, they say yes and ghost you, they say yes but it doesn't go anywhere, etc.) before you're an incel:

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Everyone is technically a volcel as that weird fat stinky neurodivergent girl is always available and ready to accept anyone who asks

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>that weird fat stinky neurodivergent girl is always available

https://media.giphy.com/media/xatBB6NVUDEu9oSiQD/giphy.webp

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If you truly know its over before it even began you don't need to ask, you already know

:marseyaware:

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Thinkmaxxing - Walter T Wincel

If you think you are beaten, you are;

If you think it's over, it is.

If you'd like to ascend, but you know you can't,

>TFW got no rizz

If you know you'll lose, you've lost;

For out in this world we find

Success only comes when a fellows a chad

While you waste your life at the grind

If you think you're outclassed, you are;

You've got to hate roasties to see.

You've got to seethe and LDAR

You can't even sleep with a 3.

Life's battles will never go

To a genetically doomed man;

But sooner or later chad will win

For you, it never even began!

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:marseyitneve#rbegan:

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You're a mentalcel at best.

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Inceldom starts at 25 years.

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I will suck any peepee. You are all volcels.


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:marseyflushzo#omzoom:

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I don't want my peepee sucked, I want to be loved :marseytabletired2:

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:marseycheerup#:


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Don't ever reply back to me in bold hyper large text again. You are out of your depth. This is a warning.

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Nobody forced you to say ‘modulo' but you still did, therefore you are a volcel

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There are several problems with putting a number on it:

Online dating makes asking out very easy, but has orders of magnitude lower success rate that falls exponentially with unattractiveness.

An autist will never have success asking women out in clubs or bars. You'll hate being there and gonna be very awkward. Sure, you could strategically try a few times to get a drunk skank, but I can't count the numbers of hours wasted in clubs being miserable and feeling even worse afterwards when I would go back home alone. I've even almost slightly roughed up once by multiple men when I approached the wrong woman, after that I stopped.

That said, you must definitely "try" somehow imo. Create some regular opportunities that at least make it plausible to get a gf. Every will use different tactics, here are what I'm currently angling for:

  • Befriend women or if that's infeasible, guys with gfs and be nice to their girlfriends too. Women will try to match you up

  • Utilize the mere-exposure effect. Join a club and attend regularly. If you are passionate about the activity, you might even climb in status and become locally attractive.

It took around 7 month at a club to get invited semi regularly to events, so it might definitely take some patience (and luck.)

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wise :marseywise:

clubs suck for mentalcels

i say having female friends is the better path. just try not to become gay or asexual in their eyes.

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This is a really long way of saying you don't frick.

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MOOOODS incel shaming

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It's not about number of times you do one thing, it's whether or not you are voluntarily doing anything to not be celibate. Most incels are volcels. Bitching online and making excuses doesn't count as doing something to not be celibate. You could go a bar, church, concert, or anywhere else with single women and eventually you will meet someone. Probably pretty fast. You could go online and probably set something up with a chick on reddit this week despite crippling autism if you can drive to a city. Getting your peepee wet is not hard. Wear a wedding ring you get for $5 off amazon and dress like you are successful somewhat and chicks will want to be homewreckers. Some dudes are super ugly and :marseyitneverbegan: but you can still do something to improve yourself and chicks will still frick you.

Just get an escort if all you care about is s*x. So much cheaper just to pay them to leave when you are done with them

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What counts as 'voluntarily doing anything to not be celibate'? If I do go to a bar or weekly gathering, do I have to be actively asking people out? Trying to be their friend? Is just being there enough?

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