Wake up !kino time to discuss the fall of Star slop again 
Nothing juicy in the /r/boxoffice thread yet but I get the feeling some of these comments might yield some sneed 
Seeing all the comments saying "Andor was the only good thing Disney made." Honestly, it makes perfect sense that you like Andor so much. Andor was a cold, miserable, deadly serious show - in other words, it perfectly matches exactly the kind of people Star Wars fans are. The most abysmally hateful and toxic people ever.
On toxic Star Wars fans a lot of it is due to Disney. Acolyte you see a press tour of people saying Star Wars is sexist and racist. Rey movie director is a feminist activist documentary director. Disney reminds me of vegan activist. I'm vegan and I cringe at how vegans try to convert people. These feminist activist are just making people hate feminism.
Just frick all of you people. I genuinely can't take this fandom anymore. THE. WORST. FRICKING. FANDOM. EVER.
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It seems like Lucasfilm just can't stop doubling down on the shit that's killing the franchise. Watch a trailer for Acolyte and they make a less than subtle point out of showing "no white men". Any convention speech revolves around "the force is female" and other crap which simply puts off the audience.
So yeah, constantly shit on your audience and you lose them. No amount of leftoid pandering is going to make them suddenly like Star Wars.
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Lucasfilms forgot that Star Wars is samurai and cowboy movies that have been mayo-ified and swapped out katanas with laser swords and guns with laser guns.
The Mandalorian is just Lone Wolf and Cub in space except cucked.
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Disney's bread and butter are middle aged ladies who still want to be princesses and will spend unbounded amounts of money to that end.
Why would they try to sell space-cowboy when they already know there's more money in space-princess?
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Because they bought Star wars (and Marvel) so they could reach their mostly male audience. That's the funniest part about their push to make Star wars (and Marvel) more inclusive. They spent billions on an audience they're now rejecting.
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I'm still waiting on that Rian Johnson trilogy that they announced like 6 years ago.
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I don't get why anyone would hire that moron for anything. All of his movies are god awful and he's responsible for the worst episode of breaking bad
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I liked The Fly. He also directed Ozymandias, which is one of the greatest pieces of TV ever.
Brick was boring and The Last Jedi was irredeemable shit. Rian deliberately torpedoed the Star Wars franchise, and I think he's partially to blame for the subversive garbage that's churned out to this day.
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upon closer examination, it was things where he was listed as a writer that turned out to be complete garbage
maybe he's okay at directing but he's definitely an awful writer
Looper and his knives out movies are totally awful too
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Looper was his? What a shart
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seeing people recommend that piece of trash was one of the first things that made me realize how r-slurred redditors are
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people were recommending looper?!
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https://old.reddit.com/r/movies/search?q=looper&sort=relevance&t=all
https://old.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/17ew5gh/looper_is_very_very_good/ https://old.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/18acnhq/a_friendly_reminder_that_looper_2012_is_an/
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That murder mystery of his is okay. The first one, not the sequel. That one is butt.
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The twist is that he lies to you on screen. Am I supposed to think its clever that he filmed a scene only to retcon it out later? Like sure I was fooled. Silly me for thinking that the things you show on screen actually happened in the movie.
He's a hack.
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I don't remember the scene, was it framed as a character telling a story (and lying) or was it just the omniscient "narrator" lying for no reason?
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Its been a while but there is a scene where marta is discovering the body and walks to the window which is presented separately from the context of the detective interrogating her. We later find out that this scene never happened and was just a lie.
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Do you have a yt link? I don't remember that scene either.
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I do not. Finding it seems high effort but maybe i'll try
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Isn't his episode regarded as one of the best?
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He did the best one and also the worst one (Ozymandias and The Fly)
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That's dead lmao
The only upcoming projects are a Rey movie and a Mando movie, and I'll be surprised if the former makes it to theaters
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It'll be the Rey movie that makes it to theatres after Disney cancels Mandalorian for having too much toxic masculinity. The Rey movie will bomb and Disney will be shocked and confused about its performance.
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Thanks for the pin
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unironically he probably wouldve made a decent trilogy if he was given the sequels from the getgo, before he became terminally online
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Star Wars is fricking gay get a life you nerds.
This should be in /h/Goyslop not kino.
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Go watch Coz Ov Moni, that's authentic kino
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Even George Lucas was bad at Star Wars. It just isn't very good.
Unironically the best thing to come out of it was Grim Fandango and the Sam and Max games. We might not have had as much 90s point and click kino if George didn't have a big bag of starwars cash to fund Lucas Arts
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Star Wars is supposed to be about knights in space who use magic and have cool laser swords. It's an idea that should literally print money, but everyone keeps making it about political negotiations, diversity, shitty dialogue and other garbage that no one cares about. Honestly anyone with any filmmaking capability should steal the good bits and let the rest of it die!
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I noticed you made a glaring omission in that list of games.
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What is that? I haven't played it
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The Dig
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Star Wars is a very corny B movie from the 70s which became popular because of innovative special effects and the simple old fashioned plot (farmboy rescues princess from a castle with the help of his new friends and a wizard). Lucas himself knew he made a children's movie and he never gave a flying frick about lore-obsessed geeks opinions while writing the prequels
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90s LucasArts was peak kino and that includes the Star Wars games
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The fact that corporations are willing to lose hundreds of millions of dollars for some performative genderspecial/stronk BIPOC womxn bullshit is a peak proof that the cult of the racegendergirlbossrightsideofhxstoryblobs is a literal fricking religion - your own continued existence in the world does not matters, because faith and ideology comes first and foremost because, they transcend life and death. !chuds
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They weren't willing to lose money. They just assumed Star and comic slop would make bank no matter what they threw up on the screen. Considering that, why not hire a bunch of rslurs and let them make something that will trend in the right Twittwr circles?
By the time they realized how wrong they were it was too late. And getting rid of those rslurs are next to impossible once they've latched on. A lawsuit, a few articles in variety on how misogynists or racists are now running Disney and the suits back down immediately.
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its like scientology
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True, but you could also make this point about OpenAI or other tech cults
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Lucas shat the bed first with the prequels. Everything since then has been failed necroing.
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The prequels are weirdo kids movies made after one man's vision. Not good cinema, but pretty unique while also stimulating kids' imaginations.
The sequels are a mixture of focus group slop aimed at 30 year old manchildren, and vibes-based anodyne liberal feminist sludge aimed at an imaginary audience of little girls and humorless PMC foids. The main proof of the sequels' failure is not that adults dislike them, but that children couldn't care less about them.
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I don't even like Star Wars that much but I did start Boba Fett with my family. Holy shit, what a boring pile of shit trying so hard to be cool.
Like, so we gonna have the geriatric Boba Fett just sit and chat the whole fricking time? I turned off at the retro futuristic greaser gang with the hover bikes that somehow existied on the poor desert person planet.
Should have had the kid who played the child clone, and is now grown, come back for an interesting dynamic between the old and young versions of himself. Might have been compelling or literally anything rather than the snoozefest of like 4 eps I slogged through.
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Andor was good but that's funny
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It was good compared to other Star Wars but if you compare
it to actual good stuff it's pretty 
meh.
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EPISODE VII WAS THEIR MOST SUCCESSFUL FILM IN TERMS OF MONEY-MAKING.
JJ ABRAMS AND THE MARKETING TEAM BANKED HARD ON NOSTALGIA AND IT WORKED, BUT BECAUSE THAT FILM WAS ALREADY POISONED AND THE SEQUELS AND DISNEY+ SHLOCK SHOWS FOLLOWED THE SAME FORMULA IT DIDN'T TAKE LONG FOR THE AUDIENCE TOO STOP CARING.
!WRITECEL SOY WARS SEQUELS SHOULD BE A CASE OF STUDY FOR TERRIBLE FRANCHISE WRITING AND CHARACTERS.
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I wonder if they'll actually get that new Rey movie to theaters or cancel it like they did with the other announced movies
It would probably bomb hard at this point
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The director's only non-documentary credits are some animated Pakistani children's movies and directing 2 episodes of Ms. Marvel. It's going to suck so bad.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharmeen_Obaid-Chinoy
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Oh no no no
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It's gonna be so bad l.ao
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You know, the Rey character could have worked if they had developed her properly instead of making her the foid Messiah. Daisy Ridley is not a bad actress but her character is extremely one-dimensional.
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Comparing Rey to Luke, I realized Luke wasn't a very deep or complex character either. He works though because he's a simple and sympathetic protagonist surrounded by interesting characters and neat stuff
Rey just needed to be a vessel for the audience to experience another neat setting so the sequels being so flat and underdeveloped hurts her character.
And Luke's biggest relationship was with Vader, which was interesting. Rey's biggest relationship was with Kylo and it felt like something out of a fanfic so there's no emotional grounding for the trilogy
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if the last movie had hardcore full penetration everything visible s*x between Rey and Kylo it would have been a significantly better movie
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Only if Adam Driver has a bag over his face
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Eye contact with the camera the entire time. No negotiations
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IT ALSO TOOK LUKE 3 FILMS UNTIL HE COULD BEAT VADER AND EVEN SO THE EMPEROR ALMOST WRECKED HIM. PLUS ON THE FIRST FILM LUKE CLAIMS THEY DON'T NEED HAN SOLO TOO GET TOO ALDERAN AND THAT HE CAN PILOT A SHIP, TOO WHICH HAN LAUGHS AND OBI-WAN IS LIKE "SHUT-UP KID, THIS IS SERIOUS" WHILE REY SEEMS TOO KNOW THE FALCON BETTER THAN HAN.
JUST MAKE HER LEARN STUFF FROM OTHER MORE MATURE AND EXPERIENCED CHARACTERS!
LUKE WAS COMPLETELY BUTCHERED BY RIAN JOHNSON. HE WENT FROM "I WON'T KILL
@nuclearshill'S EVIL MURDEROUS FATHER, I'LL BRING HIM BACK TOO THE LIGHT" TOO "I'M GONNA KILL 
@nuclearshill'S TEENAGE NEPHEW ON HIS SLEEP BECAUSE HE'S CHATTING WITH SOME DARK LORD ON FORCE 4CHAN"
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Shameless Ctrl+v ing an earlier comment:
Luke is whiny and needs to shut the frick up. Rian Johnson handled the character faithfully because he was still a useless c*nt 40 years later and I'm glad Johnson killed him
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They just needed a 16-minute long s*x scene that does absolutely nothing to advance the plot. Just Kylo Ren, the most confirmed swole dude in Star Wars, slamming her head into the bedframe and grunting like an ape the entire time.
I have a script prepared for serious Hollywood producers only
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Luke is whiny and needs to shut the frick up. Rian Johnson handled the character faithfully because he was still a useless c*nt 40 years later
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Luke works because he's literally just the Hero in the Hero's Journey. He's an interchangeable plot device from a story structure that prints money.
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One problem is Daisy Ridley actually thinks Rey is a great character, and that people who don't like her are sexists who hate strong women. So she just fundamentally misunderstands how to bring a character to life.
You can blame a lot of it on bad writing or directing, but a better actress would have brought more vulnerability and depth to the role
There's zero indication after the 40 minute mark of TFA that Rey actually likes any of her "friends." She barely tolerates them. In TROS she treats them basically like NPC followers. So much of what separates the tough-but-vulnerable heroine from the girlboss ubermensch is in the subtler details of the performance
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rare betteridges law
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Everyone forgets that george ran the franchise like a booze cruiser for a decade.
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The prequels are shit, but at least they're entertaining and meme-able (if you're so inclined).
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Sheevposting my beloved...
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Star Wars is bad at Star Wars. It's a creatively bankrupt franchise that can't break out of the lightsaber/jedi/sith/tie-fighter/death star/x-wing/yoda pit it dug itself into. The current fans are people who want to see the same story told 100 times or mega-neurodivergent turbonerds who know every legends page of wookiepedia by heart. There is only so much slop that can be sold to the former and the latter is too small to be worth catering to.
Total Starshit Death NOW
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Yes that's the problem. That Star Wars has lightstabers. I think most fans would be fine with more experimental stories if they were done well and didn't show disdain for what came before.
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No, Starshit makes tons of money so Disney is good at Starshit.
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why are cape/space/time/sword-shitters like this
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They like franchises more than they do any individual movie/game/book. It's the final stage in fandom, where the actual content is irrelevant so as long as it allows you to reinforce your identity as a consumer.
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The Videogame, dead by daylight made bank off this idea.
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Lets see the good. Madolorian season 1 and 2 and Andor. Lets see the bad. Everything else. Yeah Disney sucks.
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One entire season tutorializing the Kuleshov effect was enough, thanks
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Season 2 wasn't as good as 1 but it was still fine.
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Rogue One
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Ehh. Ill give it an ok.
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My pitch of ""Luke rebuilds the Jedi better and then gets to watch it slowly die in front of him" was better than anything Disney produced. Because it was at least something new. The First order should have been a terrorist organiZation, not another Empire.
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The only good starwars movie in the last decade was rogue one
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No shit lol
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