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Holy shit it is bleak. There are three Harry Potter books in there and two Hunger Games books in there in the top 10 best books.
Then you compare it to the best books of the 20th century ( still one harry potter book in there in top 10 but they are still doing way better than the 21st century.
How did the quality of the "greatest" works fall down so quickly. It is like humanity has forgotten how to write anything with any depth anymore and it is all at the level of quality of teenage story writing.
Is it simply over for the writing genre as a whole or is it that the best quality writing is actually no longer being recognized as the best because it didn't sell enough copies nor got enough appreciation from writing critics, or is it that there is a complete disconnect between what the average person considers enjoyable writing and what is considered actually good high brow writing?
I think it is a shift in medium where all the people looking for depth and high quality in their literary works moved on to movies and video games instead and all who are still hanging around the writing genre are those who will pick a random niche and the general books based on lowest common denominator which is teenage angst or teenage wonderment slop.
What this means is that the writing genre is going to keep going further down in quality over time and we need to look at the possible extinction of reading one day if everything turns out to be possible to be done by video because people are clearly getting worse at appreciating literature while getting a whole lot better at their expectations and appreciation of better video entertainment content.
Conclusion:
In terms of ease of entry into the writing department this is the easiest time period. In terms of making money from it, likely one of the harder time periods. We can expect the quality of writing meant for general audiences to have reached the lowest floor and never rise above it again this generation. The Zoom zooms are too r-slurred when it comes to quality writing in just a book.
Also if you still read Harry Potter books, READ ANOTHER BOOK!
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To discuss the second chapter of our book club pick, "Petersburg" by Andrei Bely. I'll finish the chapter tomorrow and give my takes then but the threads get published on tuesday so here it is.
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!bookworms last week GRRM wrote an update on the new HBO schlock adaptation of his Dunk & Egg novellas.
Did I just read the words "Finish" and "Winds" in the same sentence? Am I dreaming? George? Are you promising me personally that WINDS OF WINTER will be complete by end of fiscal year 2025? In time for the holidays? Did you say that? I'm just going to go around believing that now.
OMG, A TWOW MENTION
I can feel some new year optimism from George. I'm super excited for the Dunk and Egg adaptation, it looks good.
THIS TIME FOR REAL GUYS
https://old.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comments/1icwbb4/am_i_crazy_for_believing_grrm_about_twow_spoilers/
No. The super-cynical posture some people take here that he's not working on it at all, is some kind of fraud, etc. is just a perverse form of copium. It's just a way for people to not get their hopes up. It's pretty obvious that he's trying to get it done but he's slow, it's hard, and he has a lot of other things going on. But it's pretty obvious that he's been working on it and probably has a ton of material at this point. What that means about him being close to an actual release date or anything like that is less clear.
Asoiafbros, will Dany finally leave Westeros? Will Ser Robert Strong kill the faith of the cucks champion? Is Aegon fake? Is the pink letter real?
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Get this washed up frick some cocaine already
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If you would all pause fighting for a moment and pay attention to me, I have an annoucment to make: My book is available for pre-order. If you or someone you love has tried and failed to get control over alcohol, this book is for you: https://t.co/51Y10eiMVT
— Katie Herzog (@kittypurrzog) February 3, 2025
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I got it used so he didn't get any money, this is why my life is already over.
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One of the most characters I can imagine:
then has a mental breakdown
!incels required reading. There's a (very well done) online reading by the author if you're a .
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i dunno if yall do comics
but i need to find a conan the barbarian book
its like...about conan time traveling to the modern(?)day and meeting a and fighting off some evil thing
i swear to god it was real and on the kindle app but i cant find it
anyone know what comic this was???
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Beloved ASOIAF audiobook narrator Roy Dotrice passed away before GRRM could get WoW out. RIP
But now, using preview chapters from The Winds of Winter and the power of 11labs voice cloning, Roy Dotrice can narrate book 6 from beyond the grave!
if you haven't read the Forsaken sample chapter it's pretty sick. shame we'll never get the book because it gets me hyped
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bottom text.
I haven't used audible that much, and now I have 8 Audible credits accumulated and I need to expend them before canceling my membership or they disappear back into Bezos' pockets
Please recommend me
Literary Fiction/novels
Classics
Sci-Fi (more obscure or newer stuff is better, I have read a lot of the popular classic scifi)
Well written histories/historical biographies
K thx. Also judge other people's recommendations
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Brandon Sanderson
For those that don't know, Brandon Sanderson is a Mormon author that specializes in writing fantasy for people that believe video games are art. The Mormonism manifests itself as embarassing and clunky attempts at insults.
For example:
But don't worry. He doesn't need the crutch of Mormonism to help him write atrocities.
Sanderson started getting big in 2006 when not mentioning current-day issues in your writing wasn't considered violence. Because his early work was inoffensive, some of his fans had certain opinions and would be described as chud-adjacent today. We'll come back to them in a moment.
With success came the the desire to expand, and what better way to reach more people than making it more relatable™ and courting a "modern audience"! It started out subtle: a background character making comments about the same s*x, allegories about mental health and, eventually, an out-of-place political desire to install a modern democracy in a medieval fantasy world. It got progressively more obvious with each new book, but it clearly worked, because you can't go anywhere online to discuss fiction now without being bombarded with Sanderson recommendations.
And now a large chunk of his fan base looks like this
Wind and Truth
The most recent addition to the Sanderson Literary Universe was the 5th book in the Stormlight Archive series, Wind and Truth.
We're going to look at some 1-star reviews, which are mostly chuds dumb enough to have kept reading up until now.
Remember the excerpts from earlier? ALL his writing is like that. All 4 previous books in the series. These geniuses endured 4,546 pages of slop to get to this point
Goodreads Link. Sort by 1-star reviews. 2-stars are also funny, but it's mostly just people begging him to get another editor.
I will be honest, I cried
I didn't realize I was reading garbage until there was a gay character!
^ This is an actual quote
This guy wrote a whole novel in protest
Can't read it? You're welcome!
It turns into an impassioned plea for Sanderson to renounce Mormonism in favour of mainstream Christianity, which is funny, but not actually worth reading.
I couldn't drug myself to sleep, so I used boring audiobooks
The best part of these 1-star reviewers pouring out their hearts (and some of them posting from accounts with face pics and real names) is that none of it meant anything. The book was well-received overall and will fund the next 5 books in the series!
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!bookworms to discuss the first chapter of Andrei Bely's "Petersburg".
An neurodivergent old tsarist statesman (and a cuck) has a difficult relationship with his incel son but takes too long to realize his son's commie friends might be into something. Vivid descriptions of what St Petersburg looked like during the 1905 Revolution.
Next week discussion to cover chapter 2.
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For those upset over Dark Horse’s actions here…I respectfully point you to the words of a person who can express these things more eloquently than perhaps I can: https://t.co/QkMeXVYFBc pic.twitter.com/bkfp2gLz6U
— Valerie D'Orazio (@TheVallyD) January 25, 2025
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To discuss your weekly readings of books, textbooks, and papers.
!bookworms I'm about to finish "Afgantsy" and already started with the first chapter of Andrei Bely's "Petersburg", the latter which will be the center of our book club discussion thread on Tuesday Jan 28th. Join our book club discussion if you're interested!
https://rdrama.net/h/lit/post/334655/rdrama-bookclub-next-pick-petersburg-by/7654072#context
@Aevann can you
pls
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Attention !bookworms and !classics
Our next book club reading will be "Petersburg" by Russian author Andrei Bely.
Written between 1913-1916 and initially published on a serialized manner, the book covers the story of a young man who becomes involved with revolutionaries who tasked them with a job, to kill a high ranking tsarist official, his own father.
https://oceanofpdf.com/authors/andrei-bely/pdf-epub-petersburg-download/
Here's the free epub for you guys to download it.
The book consists of 8 chapters, so ideally we'll cover 1 per week but before committing to another failed bookclub I'll ask how many of you want to participate.
For those who're in, another option is to do one chapter on a bi-weekly basis. Let me know in the comments which one you prefer (one chapter per week or one chapter every two-weeks)
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