Redditors chart the number of executive orders from the Führer :marseytrump: only to show he's got a ways to go to catch up with the OG Nazi-puncher FDR :marseyabbott:

no_cap_fr they/them 12d ago #7958814

And now I realize that I have fallen victim to propaganda because I have always heard that Obama and Biden were executive order crazy and did wild amounts of them. I assumed that might be somewhat exaggerated, but that they would still be up there instead of having a downright modest amount lol

I hate these fake butt lib comments that always appear.

"I used to be an uneducated hog person, but this reddit post enlightened me. Cmon fellow hogs, baske in the light with me"

Also you guys in this thread are stupid as usual. Trumps executive orders are stupid. FDR's literally saved the country and paved the roads we drive on nearly 100 years later. This obsession with little metrics like this is such small peepee energy.

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Patrice e/acc no_cap_fr 12d ago #7958955

the criticism was that Obama/Biden (and Bush) abused executive orders to expand power, not that number of them. Biden had a number of executive orders get shut down by the courts

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jxxxy they/them no_cap_fr 12d ago #7958897

If you ignore the whole putting commies on the supreme court and aligning with commies for WW2 FDR wasn't that bad

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SnappyIsMyWaifu gonna/say/it Chief Misogyny Officer jxxxy 12d ago #7959087

And basically handing half the world to the Soviets by trusting uncle Joe's pinky swears. And running for a third term when it was obvious he wouldn't see the end of it leaving the US with the wholly inadequate Truman in charge.

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Chair no/u SnappyIsMyWaifu 12d ago #7959733

the wholly inadequate Truman in charge.

Two wasn't enough.

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Chair 12d ago #7960012

Every veteran who fought the japanese who was queued up for the eventual invasion of japan says without exception the bomb saved tens of thousands of american lives and millions of jap lives

:marseysaluteusa#:

Truman had balls of steel

Even the japanese vets have recognized they were nation ready to wholesale suicide out of blind fanaticism as evidenced by all the civilians who threw themselves off cliffs and shit because they thought the americans were going to r*pe them to death like the japs did to the chinks

Right !historychads ? or nah

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DWHITE___________DYNAMITE 12d ago #7960205

Truman ultimately gave us shounen

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Transformers 12d ago #7960214

Imagine the Manime we would have if we'd dropped 4 atomics :soyjakanimeglasses#:

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BWC 12d ago #7961214

:marseycumplosion#: we know how he lost an eye

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DWHITE___________DYNAMITE 12d ago #7960052

The bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were a net good for humanity, the US, Japan and Asia and I tired of pretending they weren't.

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BushWasRight free/dom There's no ideology but liberal democracy :marseyliberty:

and Fukuyama :marseyreactor:

is its prophet DWHITE___________DYNAMITE 12d ago #7960033

Truman was too kitty (or more likely, to reliant on state dept compromised by commies) to help Chang and save millions, and then made Korea unnecessary attritional war because he was too kitty to threaten China with :marseymacarthur: (as IKE eventually did ending the war). Thus condemning thousands or Americans and millions of Chinese and Koreans to die.

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BushWasRight 12d ago #7960042

Truman was too kitty (or more likely, to reliant on state dept compromised by commies) to help Chang and save millions, and then made Korea unnecessary attritional war because he was too kitty to threaten China with (as IKE eventually did ending the war). Thus condemning thousands or Americans and millions of Chinese and Koreans to die.

Do you think if we made peace with Japan or let north korea win it would be a better place or what lol

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BushWasRight free/dom There's no ideology but liberal democracy :marseyliberty:

and Fukuyama :marseyreactor:

is its prophet DWHITE___________DYNAMITE 12d ago #7960820

Help China in 46 (or 47 don't remember when Mao took over).

Basically US forces Chiang into a ceasefire while :stalinjam: throws tons of ww2 surplus at :marseymao: , letting break ceasefire and take over China.

Don't kittyfoot in Korea and actually threaten China with bombs (conventional and otherwise) when they send armies to Korea, instead of going "oh you're sending hundreds of thousands of your soldiers to kill ours, we won't drop a single bomb on you that would be ESCALATION :marseyscream: "

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CoconutVanilla they/them BushWasRight 12d ago #7960662

Don't you mean Biden and Putin in Ukraine?

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BushWasRight free/dom There's no ideology but liberal democracy :marseyliberty:

and Fukuyama :marseyreactor:

is its prophet CoconutVanilla 12d ago #7960829

And LBJ and S Vietnam, its a common western mistake of the west.

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Grue check/bio I will have sexual intercourse with you in exchange for fiat currency DWHITE___________DYNAMITE 12d ago #7960032

Every time it was mentioned for like 40 years the estimated death toll for a hypothetical invasion of Japan went up. I find it suspicious at least.

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Grue 12d ago #7960036

Yeah because we had more access to information so the guessing got more precise duh

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Grue check/bio I will have sexual intercourse with you in exchange for fiat currency DWHITE___________DYNAMITE 12d ago #7960064

Japan was outright militarily occupied, you'd think the US would have all the info needed after like, ten years max.

Maybe I'm just schizzing but it seems to line up with the behavior I'd do if I were trying to avoid historical humiliation in an era of increasingly anti-nuclear sentiment, a la Germany or Japan (even with the distinct advantage of not losing the war), by making Nagasaki and Hiroshima tragic sacrifices for the good of all and making the numbers whatever they needed to be.

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Grue 12d ago #7960106

were trying to avoid historical humiliation

we pardoned the majority of the most heinous war crimes committed by the japanese in the effort to move on

on the bright side, they became an economic powerhouse and important ally

on the dark side, anime, denial of atrocities, and jap-washing of history

!Germs were spared no luxury but they still turned out alright too though without getting their schwänze stroked

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johannesalthusius they/them '); DROP TABLE Users;-- DWHITE___________DYNAMITE 12d ago #7960079

Truman had balls of steel

It wasn't even seen as ballsy at the time, simply a no-brainer. A fanatical empire was killing our soldiers -- why wouldn't we use every tool at our disposal? Truman didn't even order the bombing -- he approved an existing plan. It wasn't his biggest priority.

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DWHITE___________DYNAMITE 12d ago #7962008

:#marseydisagree:

We should've killed more Japs. :marseyevilgrin:

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SnappyIsMyWaifu 12d ago #7959255

Truman's foreign policy was a complete reversal of FDR's naive trust uncle Joe policy tho

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Could someone please saw down this rifle barrel for me? SnappyIsMyWaifu 12d ago #7961069

And running for a third term when it was obvious he wouldn't see the end

he actually died in his 4th term

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no_cap_fr they/them jxxxy 12d ago #7959160

I like the commies

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snatterhatter they/them Huh? 12d ago #7958818

I'm probably being trolled here but the slope of the Trump line is pretty similar to the slope of the FDR line and both are notably much higher than modern presidents including his own first term. The other ordermaxxers were either wartime presidents or during the actual great depression, neither of which is approached by our current state of affairs no matter how much redditors talk about how now is the most important moment in history. Why can't you just chudpost about things where libtards are actually in the wrong, there's so many of them that I don't understand why posts like this get made. Executive orders have been a creep of executive power for decades.

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snatterhatter 12d ago #7958861

:marseyjokemissed#:

The joke is that everyone compares drumpt to hitler so comparing him to FDR is basically required which is an easy example to demonstrate that executive overreach does not equal fascism and it's important to dunk on leftoids or rightoids for their hypocrisy, but leftoids more right now because I believe TDR was implicit to trump winning because it's so tiresome for centrists/moderates.

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bruseuilis John/McClane DWHITE___________DYNAMITE 12d ago #7959333

I think the real point that everyone is missing is how fascist/inspired by fascism FDR and his New Deal was and how much he and the people in his brain trust, like Rexford Tugwell (great name) openly admired Italian fascism.

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johannesalthusius they/them '); DROP TABLE Users;-- bruseuilis 12d ago #7959685

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bruseuilis 12d ago #7959418

Whatever you say. The only certainties I have about political ideology that I'm certain of is that horseshoe theory is real and israel

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snatterhatter they/them Huh? DWHITE___________DYNAMITE 12d ago #7958883

OK I think I see what you're going for maybe, I am :marseyill: in bed so I'll just take your word for it

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throwaway111 they/them 12d ago #7958751

Fascism is when you exceed a rate of 11.4 executive orders per month. Anything less than that and it's still democracy, but once you hit 11.5, it's Nazi Germany. Also, to be clear, FDR, Hoover, and Truman don't count because their lines are monochrome.

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12d ago #7958853

The more XO there is, the more fascist it is

I bet half or more of that is just reversing Biden XOs on day 1 and a bunch of meaningless trolling like renaming Gulf of America

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Chair no/u ThoughtCorrector 12d ago #7959701

Words matter. :marseyindignant:

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Cao_Cao Tippety/Tap Lord of Wu 12d ago #7958859

I'm pretty sure the Wall St. Crash didn't happen till October 1929- after which he decided to repatriate all the Mexicans for some reason- but what were all Hoover's executive orders about before then? Maybe he found a bunch of dead hookers Warren G. Harding had left stashed in the drywall of the White House.

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Patrice e/acc Cao_Cao 12d ago #7958960 Edited 12d ago

Wikipedia called it "ethnic cleansing"

As part of his efforts to limit unemployment, Hoover sought to cut immigration to the United States, and in 1930 he promulgated an executive order requiring individuals to have employment before migrating to the United States.[207] The Hoover Administration began a campaign to prosecute illegal immigrants in the United States, which most strongly affected Mexican Americans, especially those living in Southern California.[208] Many of the deportations were overseen by state and local authorities who acted on the encouragement of the Hoover Administration.[209] During the 1930s, approximately one million Mexican Americans were forcibly "repatriated" to Mexico; approximately sixty percent of those deported were birthright citizens.[210] According to legal professor Kevin R. Johnson, the repatriation campaign meets the modern legal standards of ethnic cleansing, as it involved the forced removal of a racial minority by government actors.[211]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbert_Hoover

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To assist in the round-up, police conducted raids of public places, including the church La Placita on Olvera Street in downtown Los Angeles, where persons of Mexican ancestry were known to frequent. 13 Olvera Street was not a tourist spot in the 1930s like it is today; then it was simply a meeting place for working class Mexicans near a church serving the Mexican immigrant and Mexican-American community. The people rounded up were often herded onto trains and buses or driven by social workers to the border. This was true for citizens by birth and those who had lawfully naturalized to become citizens.