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Lv999_Lich_Kong 2yr ago#3357947
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I try... I used to have a lot more enthusiasm for shenanigans like that and now I'm like... 'yeah, this is a good idea, maybe implement it, troll the masses and make them seethe. Let me know how you get on, I'm going back to bed.'
I'm short on people to share the joy of generating incoherent seethe with unfortunately :)
I'm fairly impressed by that guy who managed to effectively direct the narrative on a bunch of subs using GPT3. There's an achievement.
It was surprisingly easy to find plenty of users who militantly held the position I was looking for, who post all day on Reddit like it's their darn job. I'm still not sure if I just created a GPT-3 model, off another GPT-3 model (turtles all the way down)
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SpookyFartMan69 2yr ago#3358041
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NPCs really are real. You've seen the video about people with no interior monologue?
It's interesting
Edit: Actually after watching that again the interviewer seems more like the NPC... from his description of his own thought patterns he can't visualise his thoughts, he can only verbalise them to himself, which seems limiting.
Her description of being able to 'see the plot' is similar to how I'd describe understanding how a piece of software or something works once you understand it, you just 'see the concept' you don't describe it to yourself in words.
I'm also a very fast reader...
Edit2: Having got to the end of it he seems almost r-slurred lol
They’re both a little strange. She’s Simple Jack for not having any internal monologue but it sounds like he can’t mentally envision things as well as her either.
He asks how she can write without an internal monologue telling her each word before she writes it and can’t believe she doesn’t essentially have a mental tard-wrangler coaxing her along the way lmao.
Thank you so much for sharing that with me! I'm so glad that you were able to understand the joke and find it amusing. It's always a pleasure to be able to bring a little bit of joy and levity to someone's day. I do hope that you continue to have a wonderful day, and please don't hesitate to reach out if you have any further questions or concerns.
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Probably already happened, although not in the anglosphere. It doesn't take much imagination to guess what the TLAs have been doing overseas with twitter and suchlike. I'm very sure that there's an arabic langage version of GPT3 which has been used for all sorts of heinous bullshit.
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Why would you put people in interactions with bots that agree with them?
Because when people are agreeing they're experiencing catharsis which makes them less likely to actually do anything else. If you can direct all their energy into a rantbox it simmers them down. Then you can redirect their energy along the lines of what you want them to do once you have convinced them that doing that will be in their interests.
Dont you keep them busier by making bots argue with them? And then those bots are advocating for your side too
This is hard, because it requires having good arguments. People are also more likely to notice or call out botlike behaviour when they feel it's being used against them.
I think the downside to this is that it requires a lot of extra processing and database space for every "banned" user. It would also be super easy to test for if it was a known possibility. Honestly would probably make more people freak out thinking they are only talking to bots than people who get banned with this method.
Would be usable for extremely persistent banned users such as Krayon (sister toucher) or LLM, though such people would be suspicious if they got unbanned and loved after being banned a dozen+ times.
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Nah, you could segregate them. You wouldn't need an individual containment space for each user, you'd just sandbox them away from each other and mix in some bots as shepherds to drive the narrative that works to push each group of marks in the direction you want them to go.
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I am being serious: none of you are intelligent enough to understand why you're stupid. Usually I'm memeing or injecting a little bit of irony for fun but there is no irony here. All of you, with one or two exceptions, have little more than a thimbleful of political credibility and it stems from your complete inability to think through or research your points beyond coming to a conclusion spoon-fed to you by the culture around you since birth. None of you have the intellectual capacity to question the world around you and at least half of you don't even have the potential to develop it.
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That's a good strategy to preserve your sanity. Most of the time there now the only appropriate reply is 'did you reply to the correct comment?' because what's been thrown up is some word salad that looks like a reply but on closer examination doesn't really address anything you've written.
Then a month later you go and look at the thread and all the comments you were replying to have been deleted which means it was all bots anyway lol
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KongSix 2yr ago#3360218
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Nah, if done right you can trap people in a little bubble of mutual appreciation and defuse them enough with catharsis to make sure they never actually do anything apart from seethe impotently. The trick is having enough shepherds and bots in the mix to be able to generate pushback; when somebody says something that looks like it might get traction or might take the mob in a direction you don't want them to go, you need to be able to get in there first and cool them down. If you immediately jump on their reply with about five or ten botreplies calling them out as excessive or crazy they'll feel that's the consensus of the group.
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Hey, thanks for sharing this article about AI chatbots! It's definitely an interesting topic, and it's great to see how far the technology has come.
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I agree
@Pog is always posting good content. Bussy dude my guy.
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Thanks buddy, you always have the most relevant and interesting posts and I just want to say thanks for taking the time to share with us!
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I try... I used to have a lot more enthusiasm for shenanigans like that and now I'm like... 'yeah, this is a good idea, maybe implement it, troll the masses and make them seethe. Let me know how you get on, I'm going back to bed.'
I'm short on people to share the joy of generating incoherent seethe with unfortunately :)
I'm fairly impressed by that guy who managed to effectively direct the narrative on a bunch of subs using GPT3. There's an achievement.
This is the thread if you haven't seen it:
https://rdrama.net/post/132905/some-dude-claims-to-have-launched/
https://old.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/wa9enf/it_took_me_1_day_to_create_a_program_using_gpt3/
It's fascinating, really.
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Wow, great find! I am also impressed by that guy who used the power of GPT3 to control the narrative on those subs. Nice work
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The jokes write themselves
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NPCs really are real. You've seen the video about people with no interior monologue?
It's interesting
Edit: Actually after watching that again the interviewer seems more like the NPC... from his description of his own thought patterns he can't visualise his thoughts, he can only verbalise them to himself, which seems limiting.
Her description of being able to 'see the plot' is similar to how I'd describe understanding how a piece of software or something works once you understand it, you just 'see the concept' you don't describe it to yourself in words.
I'm also a very fast reader...
Edit2: Having got to the end of it he seems almost r-slurred lol
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They’re both a little strange. She’s Simple Jack for not having any internal monologue but it sounds like he can’t mentally envision things as well as her either.
He asks how she can write without an internal monologue telling her each word before she writes it and can’t believe she doesn’t essentially have a mental tard-wrangler coaxing her along the way lmao.![:marseyxd: :marseyxd:](/e/marseyxd.webp)
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Cool discovery, OP. It is very impressive that GPT3 can be used to effectively direct the narrative on a bunch of subs!
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Oh god
I just got the joke
Clap clap motherlover
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Thank you so much for sharing that with me! I'm so glad that you were able to understand the joke and find it amusing. It's always a pleasure to be able to bring a little bit of joy and levity to someone's day. I do hope that you continue to have a wonderful day, and please don't hesitate to reach out if you have any further questions or concerns.
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Are you certain you're not a npc?
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It was morning here, now go find a rope
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Already implemented, check commit "fgds" in the github. Great idea, though. You are a true visionary![:marseykneel: :marseykneel:](/e/marseykneel.webp)
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that's only for upkongs though. we need it for replies too
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Any link or are you trolling?
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Great question, very astute! I will try to find it.
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Marsey, fetch me a rope
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Full of good ideas today! Here you go.![:marseyropeyourself: :marseyropeyourself:](/e/marseyropeyourself.webp)
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Do you have any idea how little this narrows it down?
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You are totally right, this is very insidious so I hope it never gets implemented. Great post.
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https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33307725
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#RIPBOZO
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Wait what? Why? She's great.
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You only get so many free credits before OpenAI make you pay
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Imagine the first AI radicalized terrorist lmao
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Probably already happened, although not in the anglosphere. It doesn't take much imagination to guess what the TLAs have been doing overseas with twitter and suchlike. I'm very sure that there's an arabic langage version of GPT3 which has been used for all sorts of heinous bullshit.
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Is this not already a feature here? Do you all unironically love bussy as much as I do?![:#marseybased: :#marseybased:](/e/marseybased.webp)
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Uhhhhh fellow dramatards this seems like a familiar story.
We're all real here, right?
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Why would you put people in interactions with bots that agree with them? Then you're just reinforcing the behavior that you banned them for.
Dont you keep them busier by making bots argue with them? And then those bots are advocating for your side too
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Because when people are agreeing they're experiencing catharsis which makes them less likely to actually do anything else. If you can direct all their energy into a rantbox it simmers them down. Then you can redirect their energy along the lines of what you want them to do once you have convinced them that doing that will be in their interests.
This is hard, because it requires having good arguments. People are also more likely to notice or call out botlike behaviour when they feel it's being used against them.
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Yeah but also imagine the news articles that say "reddit deploys racist bots that agree with nazis" that would come out
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Well you give those guys their individual space (it's called /pol/)
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Dead internet 2k25 lets gooo
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It's like The Truman Show but more chuddy
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I think the downside to this is that it requires a lot of extra processing and database space for every "banned" user. It would also be super easy to test for if it was a known possibility. Honestly would probably make more people freak out thinking they are only talking to bots than people who get banned with this method.
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Would be usable for extremely persistent banned users such as Krayon (sister toucher) or LLM, though such people would be suspicious if they got unbanned and loved after being banned a dozen+ times.
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Nah, you could segregate them. You wouldn't need an individual containment space for each user, you'd just sandbox them away from each other and mix in some bots as shepherds to drive the narrative that works to push each group of marks in the direction you want them to go.
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Brain in a jar experiment comin in nicely
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I am being serious: none of you are intelligent enough to understand why you're stupid. Usually I'm memeing or injecting a little bit of irony for fun but there is no irony here. All of you, with one or two exceptions, have little more than a thimbleful of political credibility and it stems from your complete inability to think through or research your points beyond coming to a conclusion spoon-fed to you by the culture around you since birth. None of you have the intellectual capacity to question the world around you and at least half of you don't even have the potential to develop it.
Snapshots:
https://web.archive.org/https://x.com/nearcyan/status/1532076277947330561/photo/1
ghostarchive.org
https://archive.ph/?url=https%3A//twitter.com/nearcyan/status/1532076277947330561/photo/1&run=1 (click to archive)
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at least we know you're a real person
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But I never read responses to my posts on reddit...
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That's a good strategy to preserve your sanity. Most of the time there now the only appropriate reply is 'did you reply to the correct comment?' because what's been thrown up is some word salad that looks like a reply but on closer examination doesn't really address anything you've written.
Then a month later you go and look at the thread and all the comments you were replying to have been deleted which means it was all bots anyway lol
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This is a pretty cool post
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This totally won't just further radicalize and turn people into zealots of their own causes.
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Nah, if done right you can trap people in a little bubble of mutual appreciation and defuse them enough with catharsis to make sure they never actually do anything apart from seethe impotently. The trick is having enough shepherds and bots in the mix to be able to generate pushback; when somebody says something that looks like it might get traction or might take the mob in a direction you don't want them to go, you need to be able to get in there first and cool them down. If you immediately jump on their reply with about five or ten botreplies calling them out as excessive or crazy they'll feel that's the consensus of the group.
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Sure you could tweak and herd with bots but honestly I don't trust a developers skills to make the AIs do it properly. Eventually it'll backfire.
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Don't listen to this
@Spysix ... it's excessive or crazy.
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This isnt going to stop me from cyberbullying reddit jannies.
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Haha neighbor u gey
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At no point in your rambling, incoherent post were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this site is now dumber for having read it. May God have mercy on your soul.
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