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Alyssa Rosenzweig, a well-known Linux developer, publishes her manifesto. "I’m on the board overseeing Linux graphics. Half of us are trans. If all you care about is Linux, resist the attacks on trans people."

https://rosenzweig.io/blog/growing-up-alyssa.html

Comments:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36030969

https://archived.moe/g/thread/93632944/linux-graphics-stack-is-trans (EDIT: removed/jannied, archive: https://archived.moe/g/thread/93632944/)


HN users are noticing :marseynoooticer: something:

« I’m on the board overseeing Linux graphics. Half of us are trans »

From a purely statistical POV, this is absurdly bizarre.

Not really.

Statistically there will be weird coincidences completely naturally. It's also quite arbitrary which we see as meaningful. If say, Linux networking has unusually many people called "John" that probably will be unnoticed because nobody pays that much attention to common, unremarkable names. If they all randomly turn out to have green eyes, then that's more visible. It's completely subjective which of those is more remarkable.

There are also likely social effects -- people stick together, and some side interests align with some fields. Eg, I think it's reasonable to guess there's going to be more furries than average in VR development. Part because VR allow you to look like whatever you want a lot of the time, part because people will invite their friends in.

It is not just a random coincidence. It's a phenomenon more broadly across programming, especially very low-level/hardware stuff.

There does seem to be a correlation between autism spectrum and gender confusion, with the former often present in individuals who are into highly technical pursuits.

The logic seems to be not conforming to masculine stereotypes ==> must be a woman.

It's not "gender confusion". They know very well who they are. You are confused about the topic.

Meanwhile on /g/:

HRT destroys programmer communities the same way as crack was destroying black communities in the 1980s

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>if you care about Linux

https://media.giphy.com/media/I4Jmrcjnr8Zfq/giphy.webp

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:marseyitsover: for linuxcels

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The printout is on the wall--- wait, I can't print

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I have no drivers and I cannot print.

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:marseyfloyd: :marseybsod: I CAN'T PRINT :marseybsod: :marseyfloyd:

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You will never have a real driver.

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:#marseyme:

you are wrong

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I can't print

The linux board can :marseyrapscallion:

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I installed GNU/Linux on an AIO in the garage because Windows didn't like sitting idle for weeks at a time.

It's just as slow, and a bigger pain in the fricking butt to install any applications for an amateur. Try to download a pdf reader but oops I don't have a darn program installer of all things available. Had to sudo apt get a package that allows me to install programs. Jesus.

Also why is there no Linux --> GNU/Linux filter?


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I remember when it used to be faster than Windows.

Now, moving the cursor causes memory leaks or some shit and its just worse than using anything else.

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Fedora 38 is now less performant than Windows 11 jfl.

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this is a gnome issue, any other spin is fine.

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Ah I see. Still that sucks why tf is that even happening?

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Most of the gnome UI code is written in Javascript

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Why

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Purely so the user is suffering. This sustains the Moloch.

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So many devs in these spaces are just JavaScript so orgs eventually just shape their development decisions around the capabilities of their developers. This is why you end up with shit like Electron.

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foot muncnhers have been given mobile brain damage ala windows 8.

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Fedora has been in shambles for a while. I used it as a daily driver for a couple years hoping to acclimate. Every major version update broke. Only way to do it properly was save home folder to a thumb drive, wipe, and fresh install the OS every update.

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At this point I don't even know why people shill Fedora 38 over Ubuntu 23.04.

Actually at this point I'm fairly certain if you get filtered by Arch you shouldn't use Linux.

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Related to other kinds of 'leaks' by the graphics programmers I wonder?

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That's what killed it for me the last time I tried using it. They're no closer to actually having a package manager you can use to install everything than they were in the 1990s.

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The truth is that the package and library system is broken by design. Windows dumped the "install all libraries into a global location" system after 3.1. Unixes tout it as a feature.

Why just download an application and run it when you can frick about with an online store and diarrhea files all over the system directories.

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I had to use Ubuntu during a college internship cause the guy I worked under I'm pretty sure had Aspergers

it tried so hard to be like windows but it seemed like anything more than moving your mouse required the fricking terminal again

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Meanwhile, I know a Windowschad who runs cracked versions of ECU tuning software and a 2005 copy of Solidworks on a T400 Thinkpad with 2gb RAM and Windows XP and it works flawlessly

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filtered by the command line, lmao.

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but oops I don't have a darn program installer of all things available.

How about not using an installer in the first place? Just provide the exe portable and raw for Marsey's sake (with libraries embedded). I'd be happy to move away from Windows if Linux and its surrounding culture was actually even remotely decent.

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Can that be made to work with functions like using a program by default to open files of one type?

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If the OS was designed well I don't see why not. Just use an OS app to designate a particular program to a particular file type.

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Also why is there no Linux --> GNU/Linux filter?

Because we now prefer to call it GNU + Linux.

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Smh demoted from division to addition

Nice lootbox


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Its literally gnus not unix lol

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I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called Linux, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called Linux distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux!

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Have you owned the libs yet?

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K

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apt-get is the program installer you fricking morang. :marseyraging:

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Frick if i know.

I tried opening a pdf and it said :marseyshrug:

I clicked the "find software to open this" button and it said gnome-software: file not found

I shouldn't need to use a terminal to install a pdf reader


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I shouldn't need to use a terminal to install a pdf reader

This is why you all deserve to use apple products and pay apple prices. :marseyappicon:

But also, because that package comes installed by default for all normie distros, you probably fricked it up somehow by being r-slurred. :marseyindignant:

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the r-slur probably installed some autismo linux instead of just normie ubuntu or something

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gnome

There's your first mistake.

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I heard that's just part of the standard user experience

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what are you talking about every distro has a package gui called like "software manager" or something

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Oh really? Have you personally met every single distro and can vouch for them?

I'm apparently running xubuntu, gnome interface.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16849676690759118.webp

Frick if I'm gonna figure out screenshots and image editing.


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>xubuntu

>gnome

:marseypregunta::marseypregunta:

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Ubuntu has snaps by default which suck and it seems like our guy doesn't like the idea of using something like Flatpak either.

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theres been an apt gui for like 20 years

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Filtered

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I care about Linux, but not graphics drivers or desktop environments.

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:#bitchplease:

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I have used linux since 2005 and i still dont care. :marseyshrug:

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https://i.rdrama.net/images/1684946461477008.webp

:#marseykingkrazy: i was gonna post this before I realized you already included it in the post lol:#marseykingkrazy:

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>Tfw you're a turboneurodivergent and you live in the time period of history when your sperg brothers were recruited en-masse into the AGP cargo cult due to terminal internet/anime/hentai/porn consumption, many of whom irreversibly destroyed their lives in the process before it barely began

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Good drive nerds extinct so industrial soyciety can finally collapse.

:#marseyunabomber:

Also idgi how people obsessed with logic fall for :marseytrain2: shit. Their arguments are boss mode feels>reals, if even normalstrag foids can out :marseyshapiro: you you're just an embarrassment to neurodivergent scrotekind and should

:#marsey41:

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Neurodivergent occasionally introspect too heavily and get paranoid/too hung up on details.

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Reminder that uncle Ted was trans for a period, before it was cool

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He also realized it was r-slurred and snapped out of it because he didn't have a circle of groomcord "friends" to drag him in deeper.

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And he ended up one of the most notoriously deranged people in modern history instead of a run-of-the-mill AGP enjoyer :marseyhmmhips:

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>deranged

Maybe for bluepill fans.

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>using "bluepill" unironically

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Fricking wasted digits smdh

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:#marseyjewoftheorient: will just take over is the problem and I'd rather get assblasted by the robber barons than see humanity turn into hive species.

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Explain your incorrect usage of cargo cult and how it relates to the topic at hand

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Cargo cult is a good term for it. Much like how cargo cults build crude representations of airplanes and runways without any real knowledge of how and why they are built, AGP neurodivergents dress up and act like crude representations of women they've observed through indirect sources like anime and porn without ever being socialized as women.

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but it is a cargo cult, they all code in rust

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cargo cult

:#marseytrain::#marseykoolaid:

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Mate idk if you're just being obtuse but thats not what cargo cult means

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I am an ESL macaco, so my intentions were that "cargo cult" sounds similar to "train cult" :marseyclueless:, had no idea that such an apt comparison to cargo cults would be made by @PUNISHEDvelvetjr!

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So your use of "Cargo cult" was basically a Cargo cult behavior.

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Truth

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Well, how you think the HRT gets into the community? We don’t own any pharmaceutical companies . We don’t own no doctors. We are not the people who are injectin that shit in here. I know every time you turn on the TV that’s what you see, nerds, legalizing HRT, pushing HRT, yea, I know. But that wasn’t a problem as long as it was here, wasn’t a problem until it was in Iowa and it showed up on Wall Street where there are hardly any g*mers. Now if you want to talk about HRT why is that there is a gender reassignment clinic on almost every corner in this community? … Tell you why, for the same reason that there’s goy slop on almost every corner in the g*mer community. Why? They want us to kill ourselves.

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:#spit:

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Thanks for giving the opportunity to upmarsey it twice

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It's so fricking obvious that neurodivergent trans people are just neurodivergents fixating on social roles they don't understand because they're not supposed to be neatly defined. It's crazy that no one with authority has stepped in to tell them that they're over thinking it.


:#marseytwerking:

:marseycoin::marseycoin::marseycoin:
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online discourse devastated by the use of 'over thinking' as a concept instead of others you disagree with being misguided in what they think about, as if amount is the problem, and there's some weird stopping point they are shooting past, its horrible

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There is legit such a thing as over thinking. There are fuzzy concepts that should be used as a not too examine heuristic or it breaks down. You genuinely miss the forest for the trees often and it's something neurodivergents are more liable than neurotypicals to do.


:#marseytwerking:

:marseycoin::marseycoin::marseycoin:
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It's become a catch all for "people that do things that I don't understand" and the need to express some specific condition can't be worth the collateral damage of "Everyone is just overthinking shit and they should chill out"

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You are overthinking it.

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I appreciate you doing the needful Sal

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No need for collateral, we can't neuter entire concepts because they are sometimes used irresponsibly.


:#marseytwerking:

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How about about 90% of the time including when you used it

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