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Google Ordered to Identify Who Watched Certain YouTube Videos | Hacker News

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39796550

In case you wanted to trust Scroogle and the US Government even less!

From Forbes

Federal investigators have ordered Google to provide information on all viewers of select YouTube videos, according to multiple court orders obtained by Forbes. Privacy experts from multiple civil rights groups told Forbes they think the orders are unconstitutional because they threaten to turn innocent YouTube viewers into criminal suspects.

In a just-unsealed case from Kentucky reviewed by Forbes, undercover cops sought to identify the individual behind the online moniker “elonmuskwhm,” who they suspect of selling bitcoin for cash, potentially running afoul of money laundering laws and rules around unlicensed money transmitting.

In conversations with the user in early January, undercover agents sent links of YouTube tutorials for mapping via drones and augmented reality software, then asked Google for information on who had viewed the videos, which collectively have been watched over 30,000 times.

The court orders show the government telling Google to provide the names, addresses, telephone numbers and user activity for all Google account users who accessed the YouTube videos between January 1 and January 8, 2023. The government also wanted the IP addresses of non-Google account owners who viewed the videos. The cops argued, “There is reason to believe that these records would be relevant and material to an ongoing criminal investigation, including by providing identification information about the perpetrators.”......

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>be spook

>send spooky youtube link

>ask youtube who watched your spookiness so you can go spook them at home

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:marseydicklet: Hold up, it was this redditor?

https://archive.is/GcXN3

Look at his account. All crypto. Evade IRS.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17112072120743954.webp

:marseyxd: How did no one here, ycombinator or in the privacy thread point this out.

I wonder did reddit refuse to give his info but feds thought google would?

Edit: Presumably a guy like this would have his bases covered. So maybe with reddit there would only be an IP address, but he's probably using a VPN at the least so that's useless? Maybe they hoped he'd be logged into google when viewing the youtube video and it would be a personal account with his info? Because they could have sent him any website right? Someone smarter than me explain.

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!commenters look at this

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Yup, those are comments alright

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Is that you :marseysquint:

Someone should let them know on /r/Monero

"Feds are watching and sneaking in your dms." I'm sure they're already paranoid about it.

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Incredibly based. No wonder the Glowies are trying to McAfee him.

Also, where is /u/eljefedeykon? He got got by the Bitconnect where he invested all the money from the Austin Donk show in 2016, ran from his business partners, was linked to the "Bikers for Trump" group that had an FSB Colonel as a member, was apparently laundering money for them, and was last seen on Reddit cucking some guy and literally mailing him DVDs of him fricking this guy's wife :marseydarkxd:

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Dear Detroitvelvetsmooth,

We observed your nod to an esteemed Reddit user. Their journey and karma milestones suggest they're well acquainted with the ebb and flow here, so we've decided not to dispatch a notification. Thanks for helping maintain a courteous environment.

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CrossTalk PM - Automated Message (Unmonitored Account)

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they could have sent him any website right

Any website is sus, youtube is as safe as it gets

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@A can you pin the post and my comment :marseyflirt: This is interesting

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@J I was about to comment the username, but then I was like :marseyworried: Don't want your bot in the inbox of someone being watched by feds.

Unless..... :marseysmirk2: :marseygiggle:

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undercover agents sent links of YouTube tutorials for mapping via drones and augmented reality software, then asked Google for information on who had viewed the videos, which collectively have been watched over 30,000 times.

absolutely ridiculous

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There was one posted here recently where they found some arsonists after google gave over every IP address that had searched the house. At least in that case 5 people had been killed. But it's still concerning how someone could get caught up in a criminal investigation just because you searched or viewed something online.

Like what if you had delivered food to that house and then google also told the kkkops you'd searched "How long can I light a peepee on fire without damage?" And then they show up to your house and find @Holly_Jolly_Kong tied to a table covered in gasoline. To remove his hair of course. Nothing illegal.

What happens then?

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Feds are even lower than zigger somehow.

A zigger is born a zigger it can't help it. But to be a fed, you must willingly participate, willingly comply, willingly take part in this nonsense.

Kill a fed. Behead a fed. R*pe a fed with a broomstick.

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Has anyone seen interviews with feds? It's a little known fact that feds and bureaucrats aren't particularly smart, even people like spies. They support big government (no surprise there) because they think they're smarter and better equipped for moral arbitration. Federal workers embody the most pernicious form of liberal midwit—losers, followers, and sociopaths—B students with very little self awareness who willingly engage in the unaccountable because reputation follows you everywhere else.

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Non-cushy-fedcel-job-cel cope

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I'm a wfh software engineer name a more cushy job I'll wait :marseysmughips:

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Fed

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The fedfoids gossip about Kate Middleton's legs on https://DCurbanmom.com for hours at a time

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:#marseyfedpostyes:

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rDrama supports fed inquisitions

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mormonphobia

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I remember that one day for some Church activity where people with different jobs would explain their job we once had a pair of FBI agents come over. They told us all sorts of stories and showed us a fricking negotiator-van they brought, filled to the brim with all sorts of cool shit. One of the coolest days tbqh.

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:carpeg#girl: fed

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Google who did a wrongwatch?

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It's legal to bait people. Feds are trolls just like us.

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Yet we do it for free.

:marseyl#:

And we pay them to do it.

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Fed employment ads on rDrama when?

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The future haha :marseyswe#ating:

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only to an extent, if they push that too far its entrapment

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entrapment is a cope and basically nobody gets off on it

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I get off on it :#marseyturnedon:

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The standard for entrapment is pretty strict. A defendant must show that they wouldn't have committed the crime without the circumstances created by the artificial setup that agents established.

Agents generally do setups that meet this standard. Some techniques I've seen include "bait," where they make a crime convenient and tempting but otherwise just watch. Another technique is, if they interact with someone, they usually try to not drive everything, leaving room for the perp to ask for something clearly illegal.

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they wouldn't have committed the crime without the circumstances created by the artificial setup that agents established.

May as well try to prove that demand curves don't slope downward.

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I mean, yeah, and that's kind of my point. It's really hard to succeed with an entrapment affirmative defense.

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BIPOC you are a fed who do you think you're kidding

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"selling bitcoin for cash" aka selling bitcoins. for what else should you sell bitcoins? are americans not allowed to sell their BTC?

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are americans not allowed to sell their BTC?

not without paying capital gains tax

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selling something isn't a crime just because you have to pay taxes, is it?

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Its illegal too have over $10k in cash in the US and you need too report any source of income over $500 too THEIRS. Its also illegal too refuse too say @Teslatruck stand with israel

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Its illegal too have over $10k in cash in the US

Can't tell if :marseyoctopus2: or you're just so incompetent that you think border paperwork requirements apply all the time to everyone.

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None of these cases has anything to do with a $10k legal limit on cash possession. The $10k number is the reporting threshold at the border. The cases linked are civil forfeitures, which also means there's no protection below $10k, either, in those scenarios.

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:marseybrainlet: I read something wrong and thought this was a thread about civil forfeiture

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>cops can just show up and take all you're money and you have too prove you got it legitimately

Oh sure its just perfectly fine just expect too lose it all cause of a taillight or refusing too say @Teslatruck stand with israel

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ITS ILLEGAL TOO HAVE OVER $10K IN CASH IN THE US

wtf???

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Isn't that why people put money in banks offshore accounts?

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no.

And I'm pretty sure @Teslatruck is talking bullshit.

If you enter the US with more than $10k you have to declare it at customs. But you can bring as much cash as you like. Also if you deposit more than $10k cash at a bank, they may ask where the money comes from. But there's no law against having any amount of cash.

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>its not against the law

>the cops can seize it at any time and hold it for years until you prove its legitimate

@Teslatruck stand with israel when @Teslatruck say poorcels should be punished for keeping four months of wages outside of the banks

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fair enough. the "justice" [sic] system can abuse it, that's true.

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It shouldn't be hard to prove the cash is legitimate. Did you pull it out of the bank? Did you just sell a big ticket item for cash? You should have some form of receipt.

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Pretty sure the bank limit is a patriot act law that flags everyone for review. Supposedly for terrorism concerns. Really for tax enforcement.

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You never knew this?

@Teslatruck stand with israel

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Wait until you learn about the root cause (causus belii) of the war on drugs

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i would assume he was selling in a way to avoid paying taxes, as in literal paper cash from someone. otherwise there is no crime really

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Selling something for cash does not preclude paying taxes on the gains afterwards. The mere fact that he's doing something that can make it easier to evade taxes is a pretty flimsy justification for violating the rights of 30000 other people. If they were doing it to track down a serial killer, okay. But for that?

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The mere fact that he's doing something that can make it easier to evade taxes is a pretty flimsy justification for violating the rights of 30000 other people.

Wrong. Tax evasion is the worst crime anyone can commit, and if it helped to catch this filthy degenerate it would be fine if the feds executed every single one of these 30000 people.

Rather than crying about 'privacy' (🙄🙄🙄) issues, they should be glad they get to help one of our federal heroes catch one of the worst criminals of out lifetime.

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surely he had already not paid the taxes or done some money laundering or something. I mean they really want that guy if they are going to narrow it down from 30k people

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selling bitcoin for cash

an unforgivable crime. you can only barter for bitcoin with cows or pigs, you can't buy a thing with CASH! WHAT THE FRICK! youtube better give them the info they want. these people must be stopped.

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i love the government so much it's unreal

omg, i want to obey a law soooo hard right now

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Yea as a cute twink/homosex I do NOT watch this allison brie video at 11pm every few nights

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:#marseysoypointglow:

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You're supposed to goomble :marseysmughips:

Like this !slots100

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Whats her onlyfans?

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Oh it's simply Alison- erm...

I wouldn't know...

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we try not to sexualize her

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Ok Im not gonna sexualize her, so whats her OF??

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!slots100

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What are ways around this for r-slurs? Like I assume if they got him from the view, his IP was exposed.

What if he had just archived the youtube link and watched it through that? Glowies destroyed?

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Just delete your ip adress

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If you have a State actor after you, you're kind of fricked.


Follower of Christ :marseyandjesus: Tech lover, IT Admin, heckin pupper lover and occasionally troll. I hold back feelings or opinions, right or wrong because I dislike conflict.

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one of those online youtube downloader websites might work. but then they'll subpeona that website for ip addresses.

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What if the videos embedded on another website?

If a glowie sends me one should I just post it to countryclub and I'm good?

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you would only post an embedded link, so the viewer's IP addresses still go to youtube.

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Oh :#marseygigaretard: :#marseysad:

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Watch :marseywait: youtube :marseykingharkinian: thru a vpn and proxy service :marseyglow: like Invidious

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Link?

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BIPOCs

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yt can do this & @A cant reveal who saved my post. what a farce

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government is gay, yes

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:marseyxd#:

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