"Data Scientist" (Kareem Carr) thinks that "Python is a massive pain in the butt to install"
For the uninitiatied: This is the absolute r-slur who spent weeks arguing that "2 + 2 ≠ 4"
https://www.westernjournal.com/wokeness-comes-mathematics-academics-saying-225/
He's also famous for making sophomoric ggplot charts in R to show off his "data science" chops 
and going viral for bullshit like this:
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“Data science” is r-slurred and made up. I've never met a “data scientist” who knows what they're doing
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It doesn't matter. The job of data scientists is to plausibly "prove" things are "true" that executives want to be true.
At my old job at a marketing company, they had a team of stats PhDs who kept blabbing on and on about "null hypothesis" and "statistical significance" and said we needed to run our A/B/C/D/E test for 150 years because they were changing too many variables and we didn't have that much traffic anyway.
They fired the statistics geeks and replaced them with data scientists who provided beautiful charts proving D had the most lift on conversion because the yellow line went up more than the other lines over the previous week.
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This is all true and further proves the point that they're all r-slurred
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I met some RSP foid fans via my old gf, one of them was a data scientist and I assumed we'd get along cuz I'm a programmer. And then I overheard one of her zoom calls and it was some of the most r-slurred shit. One of the black guys on her team had a dramatic meltdown during the team meeting, verbally attacking people and rage quitting, and before that it sounded like a bullshit mill. Then I started noticing she wasn't very bright. She was extremely good at quietly fitting in and never adding anything interesting to convos
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I used to hook up with a DS girl who was one of those “day in the life in tech” tiktokers who made vids about how she worked 30 minutes per day. She ended up getting fired and the newspaper did a big article about her. Then she got a new job as a DS girlie somewhere else and continued doing the same thing (nothing)
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I wouldnt share about hooking up with a chick with downs syndrome.
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What kind of article? I assume it's not a hit piece but on the off chance I have to ask.
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It was more like a “where are they now” kind of thing like how there used to be a ton of this content and now it went away.
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Best grifting job in tech tho
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It's awesome, you basically do fizz buzz with statistics and people think you're a wizard
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Was, that's one field AI is going to buttfrick to death
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Nah, it'll make data massaging easier. Statcels stay winning.
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LMAO all these neighbors do is answer the kind of simple "what number of people do X" questions any AI can handle, they are fricked.
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It depends, sweaty. The biggest concern is the dataset, and chatbots are horrid at that, so
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if you know how to call the lm() function in R you can call yourself a data scientist
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they have played us for absolute fools
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One of the funniest parts of the "Data Science" degrees is that they can be humanities degrees. Meaning they could achieve a Masters or PhD level and only end up taking a handful of cross-over courses in STEM depending on the institution.
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Data scientists are literal paper
tigers.
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Data scientist programmers are something else. They'll cobble together a seemingly impressive data pipeline system but under the hood it does crazy shit like spin up a docker containing MS Excel because they couldn't work out how to do dictionary lookups in Python.
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God bless those r-slurred R jockeys or I wouldn't have a job.
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BUT DOES IT WORK DOE'?
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Game theory: Python intentionally doesn't add itself to the PATH to confuse BIPOCs
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Literally a 5min youtube video away from figuring that out
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But they didn't have breakfast.
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Neighbor I ain't got 5 mins
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There is a check box in the installer for that. And as someone who has like 8 copies of python installed because no one uses venvs correct I like it that way.
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Yeah but it doesn't do it by default so they get confused when they type "python" into the terminal
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I think the Path and LD_Library path are the worst env variables.
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He's probably talking about on windows where it is kind of annoying and unintuitive if you've not a preexisting nerd.
On linux it's easy af of course pacman -S python
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That's a MS problem though. There's a reason almost no one uses Windows for software development unless they're specifically writing software for Windows.
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It's trivial to install python on windows.
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It is, but then you receive a Python project from some r-slur that requires a different Python version to resolve the packages correctly. Then pip is wrong. Then pipenv version is wrong. Then some fricking package doesn't exist for Windows and needs to be compiled from source and you've spent hours trying to set the darn thing up.
I just don't accept existing projects without a working dockerfile anymore.
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I'm not a programmer but this was my experience. I just wanted to make a cute GUI for a program I wrote ok.
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That's moreso due to python being r-slurred than being hard to install
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I think it's setting up the environment variables that trips everyone up. You'd think they'd have already released a dirty bat file for that..
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Academiacels are such massive twinks. They can't hack it in the real world so they stay in school forever and complain about how hard they have it.
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Conda venv pip2 pip 3 python2 python python3 miniconda anaconda killl yourself
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Ill kill you
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Python is famous for having an awful and complex packaging system. You are just a noob looking for a way to pwn the twitter man in a way not unlike /r/ProgrammerHumor nerds.
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WRONG!
Maybe if you're publishing your own packages or something, but installing some dependencies for a basic stats course is like three commands in the terminal, and if you can't manage that, you really shouldn't be allowed to say you're doing 
science 
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He was talking about teaching students new to programming and just having to use venv makes it more complicated than 90% of languages.
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pip install a bigger peepee you fricking nerd
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Oops didn't use a venv now a different version of python has a big pp.
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It is though. If you mess with the path or install a distribution that has python integrated in it without necessarily installing it to the whole machine, it gets really tedious. I know frickall about data structures or whatever this is related to, but I tried installing a distribution with integrated python in a different drive once because C was running out of space and instead ended up having to troubleshoot it for several days and just redo it a different way in the end
Call me r-slurred, but for non-CScels it really isn't as intuitive when you want to mess around with installation parameters
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It's not intuitive unless you're already familiar with python.
Literally every tutorial on installing X with python is broken if they don't tell you to use a venv first.
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Understanding environments is basic python 101 though. If you those students unironically cant figure it out with google anf chatgpt at their fingertips, maybe just maybe they dont belong in STEM.
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Python could also stop breaking shit every release
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I'm a blue collar worker so I have an excuse. It is really not straightforward and I definitely had to dig around to figure out wtf was going on. Then I made one gui for a program I wrote and then I forgot how I made it and I looked at the code and it seems complicated, so the shop will just have to use that forever.
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To be fair if you've ever done data science-adjacent work in python you would agree with him
conda makes me want to kms
torch makes me want to torch an orphanage
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I remember first hearing about this guy when he got completely BTFO'd by a notorious rightoid anon statbro.. Basically he saw a graph that he had made being shared around and tried to rebut its conclusions by WORDS WORDS WORDSing and obfuscating ('muh citation,' 'muh selection criteria,' 'muh discussion section'). Then the guy showed up in the replies pointing out the citation in the bottom right corner of the image, and walked him through how to recreate the data. He was blocked by the STATPOC shortly afterwards.
If you're on the xitter you should follow this guy btw. He tweets commentary on like ~20 different studies each day, has hundreds of longer form substack articles on the same that he wrote within the span of a year. Absolutely prodigious content output. Practically a modern-day Francis Galton.
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Honestly relatable (not necessarily with Python specifically). But I'd never admit this in a non-anon setting, especially if I were a BIPOC “data scientist” at a major university. Most people already presume you're regarded and were given the job solely because you're BIPOC.
I've only met one BIPOC programmer who would have gotten the job irrespective of race, and he was Ethiopian, which is only sorta kinda BIPOC (and definitely not BIPOC according to them).
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I know a Somali (2nd gen) and plenty of FoB Nigerians who are code wizards. They don't have the cultural pressure to not excel, and actually are prob driven to do well for their family's sake.
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I'm a mechanic and I found the process of installing the apparently four different versions of Python I needed to be frustrating. Is there some reason they're not all cross compatible?
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Printing strings is different between Python 2 and 3. That's it.
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There are way more differences than that.
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God I wish that was the only difference. My company is still on Python 2.7 for their flagship backend and it makes everything such a massive pain in the butt.
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He returns. !math
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Is this BIPOC for real? It's gotta be a trolling. He's a teacher too for undergrads, right?
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He's technically correct that there isn't enough information.
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Make an assumption about equally sized boxes and give an answer (51).
Even if they showed each individual box, an r-slur could say, "derrr there could be boxes inside the truck and its tires, so not enough information
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It's r-slurred nitpicking that only mathcels care about. Give them a real world problem, and they'd never solve it.
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So you agree that he is correct? You can't answer the question without making an assumption because there isn't enough information
This has nothing to do with it.
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To a degree, I agree, but that's why you state assumptions and make your conclusion in order to give an answer. That's what you have to do in the social sciences because you won't have perfect information nor will everything be tractable like the mathematicians demand (and hence can't solve real world problems).
There never will be enough information. Like Adolin mentioned, you can give a range from 31 or so to, as I said, a billion because there could be a billion little boxes hidden inside. That's another answer.
The question proposed can be answered, but he can't answer it because he's a tad r-slurred.
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Each box contains another box, which contains another box, which contains another box… there infinite boxes.
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Actually, there is a limit.
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So how many boxes fit inside each other? What is the maximum nesting?
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Depends on how thin the sides are and their dimensions get smaller. You see? We've already gone into the pointless part of the problem. Try being more practical, like me.
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there is nothing to do with boxes inside boxes, is just that the truck could be like this, you quadruple BIPOCs
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The r-slur was probably trying to install scipy, numpy, scikit-learn, etc on his macroshit wangblows PC.
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Fun fact: no company has ever been able to produce an AI which can consistently distinguish between monkeys and black people. Self-driving cars are here, so are universal voice translators, self-aiming guns, and pocket-computers which can recognize every single product in a live video. But distinguishing between monkeys and black people is as difficult as solving a millenium prize problem, teams of PHD computer scientists will be working on it for decades before they get a solution which works well enough to be media-outrage-proof.
When someone finally finds the solution, they won't be make headlines, but they'll be happy knowing they solved the AI problem of the century. They'll tell normies that they just fiddle around with facial recognition algorithms all day, but to people in the know, he'll be known as "Tom, the absolute genius who spent 26 years teaching google images how to tell blacks apart from apes".
Snapshots:
https://www.westernjournal.com/wokeness-comes-mathematics-academics-saying-225/:
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archive.ph (click to archive)
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The only problem I can think of is if you want to run scripts written for the good version as well as other scripts for the bad version
You can install both but there's no nice way to select which interpreter you want on a script by script basis
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Is there a unixcels ping group?
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Installing Python directly onto Windows is an exercise in frustration. Managing Python packages between different OS versions is an even bigger pain in the butt.
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Is he talking about some data analysis software or python itself? Python is only hard to install if you're an r-slured Zoomer who's only ever used a Chromebook.
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This dude is such a fricking dumbass
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R studio is easy, no?
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