Once everyone is a bad guy who cares about the conflict or death? The world is and will be shit no matter the resolution. The normal response to a grim setting with no hope: . It starts to becomes logical to kill everyone, nuke the entire setting, and restart from ash because the post apocalypse seems preferable.
Yeah, people say they like grimdark, where they really just like the dark. They like the savage, ultraviolent setting but they're faking how excited they are for the nihilism.
>Once everyone is a bad guy who cares
There's a reason that the official warhammer short film last year starring a space marine succeeding against all odds was so popular: people don't actually like nihilistic failure.
It was a really good short film! It kills me that Games Workshop sits on this IP, if you aren't into the tabletop game there are only parades of shitty warhammer games to expose you to the franchise.
I prefer the Imperium in a constant state of civil war. Where imperial governors have inquisitors killed for complaining about his alien subjects and no one notices because communication tames centuries . Where where the Reason for the shitty technology is because the admech are hoarding the good stuff and they secretly have laboratories, robots, ai, and loading mechanisms but you can't have any because you're a stupid meat creature and the omnissiah will devour you along with all the other weak flesh creatures. Where imperial guard regiments are made up of xenos because some bureaucrat thought the form for human worlds was easier to fill out and going against the bureaucracy gets you killed. Where space marine chapters blow up imperial navy ships and rogue traders for kidnapping from worlds under their protection. The imperium should be just another evil for the heroes ro struggle against.
Yeah but the regular human civilians in wh40k are the absolute least interesting characters in the setting (none of them support black lives matter). In a universe of orks, aliens, bug hordes, and 9 foot tall super warriors, @CountChristoff do not care about the average person.
Every time a warhammer novel switches perspective from a space marine to a civilian I completely lose interest in the story. I'm looking at you, Horus Rising, I do not care about the fricking Remembrancers.
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>Maybe it is the worst regime imaginable, because all the others are unimaginably awful.
The Tau is less evil because the options are "submit or die" when the imperium usually just gives you the option of "die". They need more little alien empire factions. Including one who uses Imperium tech but knows hoe it actually works. Some can be idealistically peace lovers whose army consist of five guys who can devastate entire legions, pack predators, alien lizardmen who declared holy war on humanity for its many crimes, the ragtag survivors of species the imperium genocided, borg ripoffs, pinky and the brain style ratmen who rule over a subdued population of humans and view the emperor as a nascent chaos god, cute little teddybear creatures who speak of friendship and love as they tear the guts out of a screaming spacemarine, dalek ripoffs, borg-cybermen ripoffs, proper exodite models, surviving iron men, and predator ripoffs themed after fox hunters and modern big trophy hunters.
I want proper warhammer fantasy in space. Where imperial worlds can range from enlightened utopias where humans, aliens, robots, and necrons live in total harmony and love to hellish fascist dictatorships resembling a combination of Nazi Germany and Pol Pot's Cambodia. But yes I also want warhammer fantasy back so I can build my delusional strigoi mad scientist-wizard who views himself as the chivalric saviour of the broken, the beaten, and the darned while even his allies, a few nearby human towns and a dwarfen mining colony, think he's insane but harmlessly so while his enemies, bandits, the forces of chaos, and every other vampire in the area, view him as a dangerous lunatic. His goal is to cure ghoulishness. Which is impossible but he will never give up and never surrender. Think Don Quixote, Nosferatu, and Doc Savage all mixed together. He leads his troops on the battlefield proper like a king of old . Striginay man his cannons, ghouls are his foot soldier, and maddened ghosts are his officers. He defends his domain and his lands as an aristocrat ough to and still remembers he is a prince though he is now humbled.
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!truthnuke "grimdark" enjoyers that say:
are lying to themselves. Every human being is genetically coded to prefer stories with a hero or at least someone they can root for.
If Warhammer 40k was actually as "grimdark" as they pretend it is, nobody would like it.
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Even Hitler honestly believed he was the hero of his own Star Wars.
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Once everyone is a bad guy who cares about the conflict or death? The world is and will be shit no matter the resolution. The normal response to a grim setting with no hope: . It starts to becomes logical to kill everyone, nuke the entire setting, and restart from ash because the post apocalypse seems preferable.
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Yeah, people say they like grimdark, where they really just like the dark. They like the savage, ultraviolent setting but they're faking how excited they are for the nihilism.
There's a reason that the official warhammer short film last year starring a space marine succeeding against all odds was so popular: people don't actually like nihilistic failure.
It was a really good short film! It kills me that Games Workshop sits on this IP, if you aren't into the tabletop game there are only parades of shitty warhammer games to expose you to the franchise.
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I prefer the Imperium in a constant state of civil war. Where imperial governors have inquisitors killed for complaining about his alien subjects and no one notices because communication tames centuries . Where where the Reason for the shitty technology is because the admech are hoarding the good stuff and they secretly have laboratories, robots, ai, and loading mechanisms but you can't have any because you're a stupid meat creature and the omnissiah will devour you along with all the other weak flesh creatures. Where imperial guard regiments are made up of xenos because some bureaucrat thought the form for human worlds was easier to fill out and going against the bureaucracy gets you killed. Where space marine chapters blow up imperial navy ships and rogue traders for kidnapping from worlds under their protection. The imperium should be just another evil for the heroes ro struggle against.
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@CountChristoff agree with you about all that except
If not the Imperium, then who are the heroes? Black lives matter?
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The Imperium's citizenry. The organization itself is too rotted and stupid to survive. It needs to die so humanity can live.
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Yeah but the regular human civilians in wh40k are the absolute least interesting characters in the setting (none of them support black lives matter). In a universe of orks, aliens, bug hordes, and 9 foot tall super warriors, @CountChristoff do not care about the average person.
Every time a warhammer novel switches perspective from a space marine to a civilian I completely lose interest in the story. I'm looking at you, Horus Rising, I do not care about the fricking Remembrancers.
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Ringo looks like a GOT extra who you think is gonna die but never does
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Surprised they're not jerking off the tau
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The Tau is less evil because the options are "submit or die" when the imperium usually just gives you the option of "die". They need more little alien empire factions. Including one who uses Imperium tech but knows hoe it actually works. Some can be idealistically peace lovers whose army consist of five guys who can devastate entire legions, pack predators, alien lizardmen who declared holy war on humanity for its many crimes, the ragtag survivors of species the imperium genocided, borg ripoffs, pinky and the brain style ratmen who rule over a subdued population of humans and view the emperor as a nascent chaos god, cute little teddybear creatures who speak of friendship and love as they tear the guts out of a screaming spacemarine, dalek ripoffs, borg-cybermen ripoffs, proper exodite models, surviving iron men, and predator ripoffs themed after fox hunters and modern big trophy hunters.
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why not just bring back Warhammer fantasy
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I want proper warhammer fantasy in space. Where imperial worlds can range from enlightened utopias where humans, aliens, robots, and necrons live in total harmony and love to hellish fascist dictatorships resembling a combination of Nazi Germany and Pol Pot's Cambodia. But yes I also want warhammer fantasy back so I can build my delusional strigoi mad scientist-wizard who views himself as the chivalric saviour of the broken, the beaten, and the darned while even his allies, a few nearby human towns and a dwarfen mining colony, think he's insane but harmlessly so while his enemies, bandits, the forces of chaos, and every other vampire in the area, view him as a dangerous lunatic. His goal is to cure ghoulishness. Which is impossible but he will never give up and never surrender. Think Don Quixote, Nosferatu, and Doc Savage all mixed together. He leads his troops on the battlefield proper like a king of old . Striginay man his cannons, ghouls are his foot soldier, and maddened ghosts are his officers. He defends his domain and his lands as an aristocrat ough to and still remembers he is a prince though he is now humbled.
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