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I won't tolerate historical revisionism of the Feminist view of Bayonetta. Not when the 10-year anniversary of G*merGate (We will remember them) has just passed.

Here is Anita Sarkeesian's original 2012 video on why Bayonetta is sexist (because she is attractive despite being confident, strong, assertive and designed by a woman).

Let's not pretend that gaming media didn't go to bat for Anita and insecure feminists (most of which I would guess are now titty streamers and/or on OF) to validate the view that Bayonetta was a supremely sexist and misogynist game rather than just campy game with a sexually confident female protagonist.

Complaints about Bayonetta were literally :#wojaknofunallowed: because men might find the character attractive and powerful.

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it really is impressive how one female managed to ruin so much

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You have to give credit to just HOW WELL she grifted. All the way to the fricking UN at one stage with hanger-on self-proclaimed human bowling ball and actual murderer of Alec Holowka, Zoe Quinn (Chelsea Van Valkenburg).

Love her or hate her - THAT is serious skill.

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she was the spark that hit the tinder that is globohomo

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that's from when bio foids unrightfully spoke in behalf of women (men), chud.

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https://media.tenor.com/eE3q8y8dsW8AAAAx/it-was-another-time-randy-marsh.webp

https://media.tenor.com/zICb6Rjg1scAAAAx/didn%27t-know-what-we-had-til-it-was-in-the-past-cb30.webp

And now?

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:#laugh: :#laugh:

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The fact that :!marseytrain:s and queers still mald over Bayo being a heckin straight brings me such joy. Sorry Platinum didn't respect your headcanons!

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Not to go " :marseysoyhype: WOAH EPIC JAPAN!" but I'm glad we still get moments like this before the country inevitably adopts western :marseycowboy: culture and values.


https://i.rdrama.net/images/1732673849186553.webp :#marseyloonalove::#marseyloonalove::#marseyloonalove:

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I'm not so sure about that. They're not completely braindead with money so they pander to their core audience to an absurd degree. It'll only happen if (1) once interest rates lower again and (2) black rock gets off their asses and undertake a total world-trotting globohomo campaign

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If they frick with my souls roll-slop it will be well and truly over for vidyacels :marseygameritsover:

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Why is there a dude in that pic? Aren't Bayonetta and Jeanne women :marseybeanquestion:

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Bayenetta likes both clams and hotdogs.

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Its more train delusions

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Bayonetta plays both teams but like most bisexuals usually doesn't come back for second helpings on her dc side.

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also in bayo 2 rodin dresses up as santa and people def would be calling bayo 2 woke for it

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improving

Trans lives matter

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They'll simultaneously ruin everything that was awesome from the 90's and 00's and at the same time, claim credit for it being made in the first place. "MGS has always been about trans rights, chuds!"


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MGS Remastered will swap out using the cardboard box to hide to Snake adjusting his tuck job so he passes

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For once you were chudded and didn't deserve it.

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Almost every time I've been chudded, it's been by the exact same butthurt skinwalker: @PlsYesWalz. And, every time, I make sure to remind him that he WNBAW. :spurdodance:

@MoonMetropolis love sucking peepee.

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Thank you i blocked the cute twink

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Gaming is a frick

400,000,000,000 IPs ruined

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now put the rdrama :marseyoverseether: logo on there :marseycheerup: :marseyokay:


:marsey#spiderman: spider gang for life :marsey#!spiderman:

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this just proves that trans women are real women

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:#nottakingthebait:

@MoonMetropolis love sucking peepee.

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name 1 (one) hobby that has let women in and hasn't been ruined shortly afterwards

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:#incel2talking:

Uhhh... literally every hobby has women in it, last I checked. :marseysmug2:

@MoonMetropolis love sucking peepee.

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I dont doubt that kojima leans left tbh but Metal Gear Solid is just riffing on postmodern philosophy and political theories which was just lefties dumping Marx for reactionary thinkers like McLuhan and Nietzsche while cribbing from the right wing anti enlightenment and anti modernist movements. It definitely isnt woke which is basically the intersection of neoliberalism and the new left. !chuds

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>be the most corporate elitist capitalist allied to multi-million dollar media corporations imaginable

>release vidya/music/movies with vague "capitalism/america bad" themes through a company known for making Las Vegas slot machines and Pachinko machines

>continue living as a full-blown bourgeois rich little shit in buddies with other bourgeois elitists and CEOs https://external-preview.redd.it/DIyrFOLPIKWyWr7mpDv4_SeDXM1XWCDKG0wVxUXWqwI.jpg?auto=webp&s=1ca5baeff00a8f6fa178b19a13974d27b490147b

>OMG GUYS HE WAS SUCH A HECKIN VALID REVOLUTIONARY, HE LIKED TO READ CHE AND COLLECT MCU FUNKO POPS AT THE SAME TIME :#soyjakyell:

This is not even a "yuo hate soyciety yet YOU LIVE IN A SOYCIETY! lol iPhone socialists pwned epic style :marseyshapiro:" average human who has hobbies and watches media like everyone else regardless of their political opinions, this is specifically for millionaire r-slurs who are part of the global capitalist system and make fictional media that criticizes it but does absolutely nothing to end it, like this peak example, John & Yoko waiting for the maid to make the bed so they can continue protesting against the system, 1969

https://preview.redd.it/p9vqg6c40xp11.jpg?width=1024&auto=webp&s=29df7d842d05a07ab572a3ee4c88dc111332432e !anticommunists !chuds

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Kojima himself is a dipshit lol. Its like pure alchemy that like mgs2 has some interesting themes. MGS1 is a bog standard tom clancy type beat. MGS3 is just bondshit. MGS4 is fan service bait. MGSV has any interesting ideas it has ruined by a dumb twist and horrid padding. Death Stranding story is nonsense slop. I think Kojima always designs good games the metal gear series and death stranding are the kinda games where every playthrough I find some minor new game mechanic.Its a very neat maximalist style when modern games focus on just shoving in the same few mechanics over and over again to fit a quota (crafting, stealth, parries, skill tree, gear, rarity, rpg stats and leveling, climbing ect)

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Literally the person who translated mgs2 said kojima cant write

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Kojima is a bit of a pseud but the man can design a fricking game. Now if you want real schizophrenic politics and good writing, play Killer7. That's the good shit.

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All of suda51's games are an absolute trip

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Oh, and make sure you read the book they had to fan translate so anything makes sense :marseytroll:

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Snatcher and Policenauts are good but they're also blatant ripoffs of better material

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Even MGS2 is pretty bland once youve read McLuhan or read Baudelaire or seen the prisoner or see The Network or seen an Adam Curtis doc

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Kojima always needed somebody to restrain him from words words words too much. I do like the gameplay stuff he does to his games, but never really got sold on the philosophy behind it.

The BigBoss wanking and Miller's "muh peace constitution" really grated on me in Peace Walker.

Sorry @BWC, but Kojima leans left, at least if you consider the political spectrum in Japan.

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The fricking secret is fricking that metal gear solid isn't political

it's just politics-themed

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Exactly. Most of the shit is just set dressing for what's at the heart of the story. It's just stuff Kojima liked from movies and threw in.

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Metal Gear Solid is a series completely about a ZOGbot inadvertently being tricked into liberating the world from a thinly veiled Jewish cabal.

I fricking love it when leftoids try and claim it and point to the vague antiwar nonsense as a coherent political message.

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So anyway don't forget to donate some drones to Ukraine!

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critical the military industrial complex and world governments in general

the elite control everything

When some boomer says this on facebook under his real name this person tries to dox him and get him banned for illicit opinions

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The entire point of the series is that hating war doesnt do anything because you have to actively fight against the people turning the world into a violent hamster wheel

I know Zoomers will never get through 4 but lmao it always goes right over them.

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The whole fricking point of MGS is that you had all these various people pushing to instill their version of the boss's will on the world and that led to turmoil and chaos. When really the right thing to do was to leave it the way it was and work toward a better future. Hmm almost as if that's the point that's reinforced in Death Stranding :thinking: but that's asking too much that people actually understand the games they play apparently.

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Can we not try to extract meaning from kojimas work. MGS4 should have been the nail in his coffin that he has any clue how to write a cohesive story.


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That's the like the clearest theme in the entire pentalogy if you really can't determine that after 5 games, you're an r-slur.

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Wrong.


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Literally these are things that are so basic and bipartisan that literally only a strawman caricature of a DNC mover and shaker would support them

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:#chadjewrentfreetalking:

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Metal Gear is 100% correct. (No DSP Marsey yet)

I played it recently and I was LOL-ing :lolface: at the unsubtle speeches over how nuclear waste can't be disposed of :glowjak: and how the US government was developing this terrifying new weapon that was probably comparable to Trident :donkeykongukflag:

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The whole message of MGS1 is to forge your own path. Meryl, Otacon and Grey Fox all railroaded themselves into the only path they thought they had and hated themselves for it, Naomi's speech of not letting yourself be ruled by your genes feels antithetical to idpol wokeshit, though you could probably twist that to mean :marseytrain: stuff, but it's a bit of a stretch. It's obviously heavily political but not woke in the sense that it's usually used.

Then again it is a little homoerotic to ride a snowmobile with your bro (that's why I let Meryl die) https://media.tenor.com/dmk8ocFkG8oAAAAx/mgs1-snake.webp

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Genetic determinism is woke now?

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Not what I said, but the notion that you shouldn't be ruled by your genes seems less compatible with ideas like white/male privilege or progressive stacks than the outright rejection of genetic determinism altogether.

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Thank you for actually understanding the game. Praise be to the dramatard that actually played the game.

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this must be the third "obvious and correct" interpretation of MGS I see in this thread

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It's also a game where you can jerk off to bikini posters in lockers. It is not woke lmao.

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If by woke you mean "politically left-wing" then yeah it's woke. If by woke you mean "corporately sanitized" then, yeah, not woke. But neither is something like Disco Elysium, which many would say is one of the most "woke" games of all time.

There's also games like Hades which are extremely sexualized but filled with alphabet squad and polyamory and shit. Is this "woke" though?

I think "corporate-feeling forced diversity" is how I usually think of "woke," and obviously this is usually a detriment to media. I'd say Baldur's Gate 3 or Valorant or other modern successful AAA games would be the example of good versions of these games.

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(No DSP Marsey yet)

Marsey smashing a controller would be a good one


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I think at this point using woke as shorthand for inorganic content isn't that far off the mark


The time has come for the Necromaster. The unleashing of the fourth joker's card. The arrival of The Great Milenko

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Baulder's Gate 3 is the most obvious answer. They shoved tons of gay relationships in that game and being friendly with all companions means you have to be careful to dodge the s*x scenes if you don't want them.

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It's so weird how in the last couple years playersexual romances went from being considered a garbage decision that sacrificed potential storytelling and character development to give weirdo coomers wank material with anyone asking for them being called a creepy porn addled weirdo that needed to learn not everyone wants to frick them(i.e. people who wanted to romance Judy in Cyberpunk or Dorian and Sera in DA:I) to being the progressive equivalent of a pride flag on the cover.

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I wish they'd stop including romance in game entirely tbh lol. Although even before the approaching era of being one sus dialogue choice away from gay s*x I never did any romances naturally. I always had to follow a guide or go out of my way to do them lol.

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Especially in a CRPG

What is this, a JRPG?

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Hades was a fricking heater even with its obvious gay bullshit. One of my favorite games of the last decade.


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There's a ton of good "woke" games. Vast majority of the industry leans left, so just by the numbers it's inevitable.

There are good games that are pretty explicitly left-wing politically: Bioshock, MGS, Fallout, This War of Mine, Papers Please, Disco Elysium, Cruelty Squad.

There are also good games that are just filled with "corporate diversity"-style casts: Horizon Zero Dawn, God of War (multiple games), Apex Legends, Valorant, League of Legends (I know people hate Riot slop but they're extremely successful), Baldur's Gate 3, Hades, Spiritfarer, Cassette Beasts, (too many indie games to count)

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You all sound equally wingcucked

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POLITICUCKS GET OUT OF MY GAMES OUT OUT

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Bayonetta couldn't give a darn about your politics anyway. She has to kill the newest freak who claims he's God or the Devil.

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MGS, especially 1, is not really woke

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He has a weird thing for black women, but its just because they look like his wife.

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rodin dresses up as santa and people def would be calling bayo 2 woke for it

Has Santa gone WOKE

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Does this mean 2B and A2 are now feminist icons now too (i'm assuming all Platinum games get grandfathered in)

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:!marseytrain:s will claim anything their neurodivergent uwu porn brains can get them off on being heckin valid. That game is incredible and im sure someone has written a words words words about how it shows Late Stage Capitalism externalizes the gender/feminist cyborg trans experience

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A game literally based around sexualizing a woman that feminists complained about, with the third game making people mad for not having lesbians in it and a game which literally makes a woman's butt a plot point

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Weeb games, don't care

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El oh freakin el. This is their example of woke games??? Metal :marseypunished2: Gear Solid :marseypunished2: is anti war but that does not make it woke at all. In fact lots of the humor :marseysting: is pretty :marseyroan: chuddy. Bayonetta being considered woke is the most hilarious take I have seen in awhile. Bayonetta was the spawn of Satan :marseychinesedevil: to feminists when it first :marseywinner: came out and has been ever since up until what seems like a couple :marseycupid: of months ago. This wokie is more deranged :marseybangfast: than the average.


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They literally think that "war bad" is this underground ideology

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Bayonetta is a s*x symbol how is that woke

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